Servicing ergopower

[DeF]

So my 9sp veloce ergopower levers have around
25,000kms into them in all sorts of weather.
Gear shifting has become a bit hit and miss.
Position of rear derailleur depends on whether
the shift is up or down to that cog.

I'm thinking that the lever (RHS) needs taking
apart and cleaning.

Anyone done this? I had a quick look and there
seemed to be lots of little bits that could easily
get lost or go "sproing" upon loosening a nut or
bolt.

Any experiences to share?

DeF

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[phillip brown]

On Jan 30, 5:22 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
wrote:
> So my 9sp veloce ergopower levers have around
> 25,000kms into them in all sorts of weather.
> Gear shifting has become a bit hit and miss.
> Position of rear derailleur depends on whether
> the shift is up or down to that cog.
>
> I'm thinking that the lever (RHS) needs taking
> apart and cleaning.
>
> Anyone done this? I had a quick look and there
> seemed to be lots of little bits that could easily
> get lost or go "sproing" upon loosening a nut or
> bolt.
>
> Any experiences to share?
>
> DeF
>
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Actually, pretty straight forward. I have done it twice. The only
really tricky bit is getting the return spring tensioned when you put
it back in. Sounds like you will need new 'G' springs.

see http://www.campyonly.com/howto/ergotech.html or http://www.yellowjersey.org/ergo1.html
for the instructions

phillip brown

 

[DeF]

phillip brown wrote:
> On Jan 30, 5:22 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
> wrote:
>> So my 9sp veloce ergopower levers have around
>> 25,000kms into them in all sorts of weather.
>> Gear shifting has become a bit hit and miss.
>> Position of rear derailleur depends on whether
>> the shift is up or down to that cog.
>>
>> I'm thinking that the lever (RHS) needs taking
>> apart and cleaning.
>>
>> Anyone done this? I had a quick look and there
>> seemed to be lots of little bits that could easily
>> get lost or go "sproing" upon loosening a nut or
>> bolt.
>>
>> Any experiences to share?
>>
>> DeF
>>
>> --
>> e-mail: d.farrow@your finger.murdoch.edu.au
>> To reply, you'll have to remove your finger.
>
> Actually, pretty straight forward. I have done it twice. The only
> really tricky bit is getting the return spring tensioned when you put
> it back in. Sounds like you will need new 'G' springs.
>
> see http://www.campyonly.com/howto/ergotech.html or http://www.yellowjersey.org/ergo1.html
> for the instructions
>
> phillip brown

Thanks for those tips Phillip, I've ordered some parts from Branford
Bike and will have a go at pulling it apart when they arrive.

There's actually quite an amazing wealth of info (that I should have
looked for first) including a couple of youtube videos showing
assembly and disassembly of ergolevers.

DeF

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[not all there]

On Jan 31, 11:15 am, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
wrote:
> phillip brown wrote:
> > On Jan 30, 5:22 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
> > wrote:
> >> So my 9sp veloce ergopower levers have around
> >> 25,000kms into them in all sorts of weather.
> >> Gear shifting has become a bit hit and miss.
> >> Position of rear derailleur depends on whether
> >> the shift is up or down to that cog.
>
> >> I'm thinking that the lever (RHS) needs taking
> >> apart and cleaning.
>
> >> Anyone done this? I had a quick look and there
> >> seemed to be lots of little bits that could easily
> >> get lost or go "sproing" upon loosening a nut or
> >> bolt.
>
> >> Any experiences to share?
>
> >> DeF
>
> >> --
> >> e-mail: d.farrow@your finger.murdoch.edu.au
> >> To reply, you'll have to remove your finger.
>
> > Actually, pretty straight forward. I have done it twice. The only
> > really tricky bit is getting the return spring tensioned when you put
> > it back in. Sounds like you will need new 'G' springs.
>
> > seehttp://www.campyonly.com/howto/ergotech.htmlorhttp://www.yellowjersey.org/ergo1.html
> > for the instructions
>
> > phillip brown
>
> Thanks for those tips Phillip, I've ordered some parts from Branford
> Bike and will have a go at pulling it apart when they arrive.
>
> There's actually quite an amazing wealth of info (that I should have
> looked for first) including a couple of youtube videos showing
> assembly and disassembly of ergolevers.
>
> DeF
>
> --
> e-mail: d.farrow@your finger.murdoch.edu.au
> To reply, you'll have to remove your finger.

What they don't show is a nice flat well lit work surface with no
crevices for small parts ot sproing out into and be lost until you've
given up looking for them (then they magically appear), *good* tools,
i.e. needle nose pliers with accurate jaws, a good set of pin punches,
and a lot of patience and a good frame of mind. The patience is
especially useful when you're learning.

MH

 

[DeF]

not all there wrote:
> On Jan 31, 11:15 am, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
> wrote:
>> phillip brown wrote:
>>> On Jan 30, 5:22 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
>>> wrote:
>>>> So my 9sp veloce ergopower levers have around
>>>> 25,000kms into them in all sorts of weather.
>>>> Gear shifting has become a bit hit and miss.
>>>> Position of rear derailleur depends on whether
>>>> the shift is up or down to that cog.
>>>> I'm thinking that the lever (RHS) needs taking
>>>> apart and cleaning.
>>>> Anyone done this? I had a quick look and there
>>>> seemed to be lots of little bits that could easily
>>>> get lost or go "sproing" upon loosening a nut or
>>>> bolt.
>>>> Any experiences to share?
>>>> DeF
>>>> --
>>>> e-mail: d.farrow@your finger.murdoch.edu.au
>>>> To reply, you'll have to remove your finger.
>>> Actually, pretty straight forward. I have done it twice. The only
>>> really tricky bit is getting the return spring tensioned when you put
>>> it back in. Sounds like you will need new 'G' springs.
>>> seehttp://www.campyonly.com/howto/ergotech.htmlorhttp://www.yellowjersey.org/ergo1.html
>>> for the instructions
>>> phillip brown
>> Thanks for those tips Phillip, I've ordered some parts from Branford
>> Bike and will have a go at pulling it apart when they arrive.
>>
>> There's actually quite an amazing wealth of info (that I should have
>> looked for first) including a couple of youtube videos showing
>> assembly and disassembly of ergolevers.
>>
>> DeF
>>
>> --
>> e-mail: d.farrow@your finger.murdoch.edu.au
>> To reply, you'll have to remove your finger.
>
> What they don't show is a nice flat well lit work surface with no
> crevices for small parts ot sproing out into and be lost until you've
> given up looking for them (then they magically appear), *good* tools,
> i.e. needle nose pliers with accurate jaws, a good set of pin punches,
> and a lot of patience and a good frame of mind. The patience is
> especially useful when you're learning.
>
> MH

I think I cover all those bases except the pin punches. I guess that is
for removing the brake lever. I might invest in that and a set of ring
clip pliers as per youtube video.

So far, all the things I've taken apart to investigate or fix have not
ended up being *more* broken than they were before. Some of them have
even ended up fixed or working better!

DeF

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[suzyj]

In addition to worn out g-springs, some of the older nine speed levers (mine are the '98 model) had weak g-spring carriers. A post broke off mine after a few thousand kilometres.

Luckily Branford had a replacement (and a reinforced one to boot) for bugger-all money.

I love my old Campy levers. I've worn out a couple of sets of springs in them (and the carrier) and after half an hours work, they're good as new.

 

[DeF]

suzyj wrote:
> In addition to worn out g-springs, some of the older nine speed levers
> (mine are the '98 model) had weak g-spring carriers. A post broke off
> mine after a few thousand kilometres.
>
> Luckily Branford had a replacement (and a reinforced one to boot) for
> bugger-all money.
>
> I love my old Campy levers. I've worn out a couple of sets of springs
> in them (and the carrier) and after half an hours work, they're good as
> new.
>
>

Yep, I like my 9-speed. Chains and sprockets last longer and I have
been hoovering up cheap 9sp cassettes so have a few spares that should
last a few years. I didn't think of the carrier - and haven't ordered
one. Hope mine is OK - I'll find out when it's all pulled apart.

DeF.

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[Gemma_k]

"DeF" <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au"> wrote in message
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> suzyj wrote:
>> In addition to worn out g-springs, some of the older nine speed levers
>> (mine are the '98 model) had weak g-spring carriers. A post broke off
>> mine after a few thousand kilometres.
>>
>> Luckily Branford had a replacement (and a reinforced one to boot) for
>> bugger-all money.
>>
>> I love my old Campy levers. I've worn out a couple of sets of springs
>> in them (and the carrier) and after half an hours work, they're good as
>> new.
>>
>>
>
> Yep, I like my 9-speed. Chains and sprockets last longer and I have
> been hoovering up cheap 9sp cassettes so have a few spares that should
> last a few years. I didn't think of the carrier - and haven't ordered
> one. Hope mine is OK - I'll find out when it's all pulled apart.
>
> DeF.
>
I actually took apart one (RH 10sp Chorus Carbon) has weekend, put in it new
G-Springs and main spring. Good as new. Didn't go back together exactly
like the you-tube video though, I had to use my chin and big screwdriver to
hold the central bolt down and then pre-tension the clock-spring using the
end of a sharpened spoke. All you need is allen keys, big flat screwdriver
,a hammer and a big nail (I didn't have a pin punch either
Easy peasy.

Gemm

 

[Andrew Price]

Gemma_k put it thus -
>
> I actually took apart one (RH 10sp Chorus Carbon) has weekend, put in it new
> G-Springs and main spring. Good as new.
>

It seems to me this ability is the only real world difference between C and
S group sets.

Wear out the return spring in one Shimano lever (as you surely will) and
prepare to get hot under the collar about having to replace both *SETS* of
levers.

Worst example of price gouging I have ever experienced, and the automotive
spare part manufacturers are bad* but that silly spring fiasco is the all
time world champion.

best, Andrew

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Replacement brake master cylinder set for a lexus $2450 plus gst
Same part, under a different number for a Toyota Camry - $258
Be nice to the guy behind the parts counter, he may have valuable wisdom]

 

[barry taylor]

"Andrew Price" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C3D47CEB.53F8%[email protected]...
| Gemma_k put it thus -
| >
| > I actually took apart one (RH 10sp Chorus Carbon) has weekend, put in
it new
| > G-Springs and main spring. Good as new.
| >
|
| It seems to me this ability is the only real world difference between C
and
| S group sets.
|
| Wear out the return spring in one Shimano lever (as you surely will) and
| prepare to get hot under the collar about having to replace both *SETS*
of
| levers.

not necessarily so


| Worst example of price gouging I have ever experienced, and the
automotive
| spare part manufacturers are bad* but that silly spring fiasco is the
all
| time world champion.

I have just been quoted $4-500 for the replacement of my Shimano levers
after my recent gravel gathering exercise -" you can't replace one they only
come in pairs"
not necessarilly so as I discovered by going online and exploring Chain
Reaction , Pro Bike Kit, Parker International and Pedal On
first up it is possible to purchase LHS levers for some Shimano lever sets
e.g. Shimano 105 STi 10 Sp 5600 $147.86 - $184.88 for the set - so replace
the set while you're at it
secondly the various lever sets I looked at - all Shimano - ranged from
$184Aus to $287Aus


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