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  1. Tonight, Phil was talking about Cadel Evans, and how he is going to
    try for the time trial. You have to ride as hard as you can, because
    you don't know how hard the other riders are going to ride (prisoners
    dilemma).

    But you do, if you are the last riders. And the last riders are the
    leaders. How is that fair?

    Maybe I'm too egalitarian, but I'd prefer the leading riders to ride
    first so the others have just a ever so slight advantage given to
    them.

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    TimC
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  2. TimC said:

    try for the time trial. You have to ride as hard as you can, because

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    Maybe I'm too egalitarian, but I'd prefer the leading riders to ride
    first so the others have just a ever so slight advantage given to
    them.

    You sure?, it would lack a lot of suspense - after the first 20 it
    will hardly ever change. Bad theatre.

  3. TimC said:

    Tonight, Phil was talking about Cadel Evans, and how he is going to
    try for the time trial. You have to ride as hard as you can, because
    you don't know how hard the other riders are going to ride (prisoners
    dilemma).

    You ride an ITT in a stage race as hard as you can because
    you're riding for cumulative time. It doesn't matter what order it's
    done in.
    see Zabriski at last year's first stage for an example of how this
    works.

    Quoted message said:

    But you do, if you are the last riders. And the last riders are the
    leaders. How is that fair?

    Same course, same bicycles. What's the problem?

  4. quote='Bleve'TimC said:

    Tonight, Phil was talking about Cadel Evans, and how he is going to
    try for the time trial. You have to ride as hard as you can, because
    you don't know how hard the other riders are going to ride (prisoners
    dilemma).

    You ride an ITT in a stage race as hard as you can because
    you're riding for cumulative time. It doesn't matter what order it's
    done in.
    see Zabriski at last year's first stage for an example of how this
    works.

    Quoted message said:

    But you do, if you are the last riders. And the last riders are the
    leaders. How is that fair?

    Same course, same bicycles. What's the problem?[/QUOTE]

    Weather conditions can change which can hinder OR benefit either end of the field.

    And yeah, not so much fun having the fastest riders go first and setting an unbeatable time.. snore.. 🙂

    hippy

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