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Bob Schwartz
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Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
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Curtis L. Russell
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
>
>http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
>
>Bob Schwartz
>[email protected]
I like the 'live high and train low' comment. Isn't that how a lot of
athletes get into trouble?
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
wrote:
>Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
>
>http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
>
>Bob Schwartz
>[email protected]
I like the 'live high and train low' comment. Isn't that how a lot of
athletes get into trouble?
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Carl Sundquist
Guest
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
>
>http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
>
WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
wrote:
>Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
>
>http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
>
WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
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Robert Chung
Guest
Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
I thought this part of Pound's statement had interesting implications: "if
the rooms eventually were banned, athletes who used them would not be
subject to retroactive punishment."
>
> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
I thought this part of Pound's statement had interesting implications: "if
the rooms eventually were banned, athletes who used them would not be
subject to retroactive punishment."
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Donald Munro
Guest
Carl Sundquist wrote:
> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
Placebos (many of the stuff they currently ban are placebos for all
intents and purposes anyway).
> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
Placebos (many of the stuff they currently ban are placebos for all
intents and purposes anyway).
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Bob Schwartz
Guest
Robert Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
>>
>> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
> I thought this part of Pound's statement had interesting implications: "if
> the rooms eventually were banned, athletes who used them would not be
> subject to retroactive punishment."
I can't wait to hear how he would test for this.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
>>
>> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
> I thought this part of Pound's statement had interesting implications: "if
> the rooms eventually were banned, athletes who used them would not be
> subject to retroactive punishment."
I can't wait to hear how he would test for this.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
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Carl Sundquist
Guest
"Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
>
>> I thought this part of Pound's statement had interesting implications:
>> "if
>> the rooms eventually were banned, athletes who used them would not be
>> subject to retroactive punishment."
>
> I can't wait to hear how he would test for this.
>
Interrogation in a French police station for 48 hours?
>>>
>>> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
>
>> I thought this part of Pound's statement had interesting implications:
>> "if
>> the rooms eventually were banned, athletes who used them would not be
>> subject to retroactive punishment."
>
> I can't wait to hear how he would test for this.
>
Interrogation in a French police station for 48 hours?
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Kurgan Gringioni
Guest
Carl Sundquist wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
> >
> >http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
> >
>
> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's
next?
Dumbass -
$155,000 for a room?
That seems excessive. All you'd have to do to make one of those rooms
is put a lot of paint on the walls and ceiling and floor, caulk the
seams between them, use a lot of weather stripping for the door, then
run one of those oxygen separating units, except the oxygen gets
diverted outside the room.
If I was still racing and still owned my house, I'd have converted my
bedroom. It wouldn't be *that* expensive - the main cost would be
getting the oxygen separation equipment which would cost in the single
digit thousands.
Good for Shaun - his bank balance must be a lot fatter these days.
K. Gringioni.
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
> >
> >http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
> >
>
> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's
next?
Dumbass -
$155,000 for a room?
That seems excessive. All you'd have to do to make one of those rooms
is put a lot of paint on the walls and ceiling and floor, caulk the
seams between them, use a lot of weather stripping for the door, then
run one of those oxygen separating units, except the oxygen gets
diverted outside the room.
If I was still racing and still owned my house, I'd have converted my
bedroom. It wouldn't be *that* expensive - the main cost would be
getting the oxygen separation equipment which would cost in the single
digit thousands.
Good for Shaun - his bank balance must be a lot fatter these days.
K. Gringioni.
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Bob Schwartz
Guest
Kurgan Gringioni <[email protected]> wrote:
> $155,000 for a room?
> That seems excessive. All you'd have to do to make one of those rooms
> is put a lot of paint on the walls and ceiling and floor, caulk the
> seams between them, use a lot of weather stripping for the door, then
> run one of those oxygen separating units, except the oxygen gets
> diverted outside the room.
Six rooms, with a max occupancy of 24 people. So I am guessing there
are other remodeling expenses involved and multiple CAT units.
Shaun mentions incorporating daily naps at the top of Pike's Peak
into his past training regimen. That must have been interesting.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
> $155,000 for a room?
> That seems excessive. All you'd have to do to make one of those rooms
> is put a lot of paint on the walls and ceiling and floor, caulk the
> seams between them, use a lot of weather stripping for the door, then
> run one of those oxygen separating units, except the oxygen gets
> diverted outside the room.
Six rooms, with a max occupancy of 24 people. So I am guessing there
are other remodeling expenses involved and multiple CAT units.
Shaun mentions incorporating daily naps at the top of Pike's Peak
into his past training regimen. That must have been interesting.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
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Bob Schwartz
Guest
Kurgan Gringioni <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good for Shaun - his bank balance must be a lot fatter these days.
I think he's missing the boat. What he needs to do is figure out
how to seal a room well enough to run a vacuum pump and lower
atmospheric pressure. Then convince people that the reduced air
pressure enhances erections. Sort of like using a peter pump but
without the need for a rubber band.
The money flows from there.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
> Good for Shaun - his bank balance must be a lot fatter these days.
I think he's missing the boat. What he needs to do is figure out
how to seal a room well enough to run a vacuum pump and lower
atmospheric pressure. Then convince people that the reduced air
pressure enhances erections. Sort of like using a peter pump but
without the need for a rubber band.
The money flows from there.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
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Tom Paterson
Guest
From "Robert Chung":
>I thought this part of Pound's statement had interesting implications: "if
>the rooms eventually were banned, athletes who used them would not be
>subject to retroactive punishment."
In response to the black eye he's getting for intended retaliation against
Marion Jones for her apt (IMHO) remarks about a "secret kangaroo court"?
CBC sports:
<Pound explained that the International Olympic Committee's three-year statute
of limitations wouldn't apply in Jones's case because the allegations are just
surfacing now.>
Well, previously he said that his 8-year rule trumped the IOC (IMS) 3-year
rule. "By hook or by crook"? --TP
>I thought this part of Pound's statement had interesting implications: "if
>the rooms eventually were banned, athletes who used them would not be
>subject to retroactive punishment."
In response to the black eye he's getting for intended retaliation against
Marion Jones for her apt (IMHO) remarks about a "secret kangaroo court"?
CBC sports:
<Pound explained that the International Olympic Committee's three-year statute
of limitations wouldn't apply in Jones's case because the allegations are just
surfacing now.>
Well, previously he said that his 8-year rule trumped the IOC (IMS) 3-year
rule. "By hook or by crook"? --TP
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Steve McGinty
Guest
On 17 Dec 2004 08:24:46 -0800, "Kurgan Gringioni"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Carl Sundquist wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz
><[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
>> >
>> >http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
>> >
>>
>> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's
>next?
>
>
>Dumbass -
>
>$155,000 for a room?
>
>That seems excessive. All you'd have to do to make one of those rooms
>is put a lot of paint on the walls and ceiling and floor, caulk the
>seams between them, use a lot of weather stripping for the door, then
>run one of those oxygen separating units, except the oxygen gets
>diverted outside the room.
>
>If I was still racing and still owned my house, I'd have converted my
>bedroom. It wouldn't be *that* expensive - the main cost would be
>getting the oxygen separation equipment which would cost in the single
>digit thousands.
>
>Good for Shaun - his bank balance must be a lot fatter these days.
>K. Gringioni.
Chris Boardman did pretty much this in his house - sealed up the
windows, taped round the doors and put mattresses up against them.
Don't think it cost $155k...
Regards!
Stephen
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Carl Sundquist wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz
><[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
>> >
>> >http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
>> >
>>
>> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's
>next?
>
>
>Dumbass -
>
>$155,000 for a room?
>
>That seems excessive. All you'd have to do to make one of those rooms
>is put a lot of paint on the walls and ceiling and floor, caulk the
>seams between them, use a lot of weather stripping for the door, then
>run one of those oxygen separating units, except the oxygen gets
>diverted outside the room.
>
>If I was still racing and still owned my house, I'd have converted my
>bedroom. It wouldn't be *that* expensive - the main cost would be
>getting the oxygen separation equipment which would cost in the single
>digit thousands.
>
>Good for Shaun - his bank balance must be a lot fatter these days.
>K. Gringioni.
Chris Boardman did pretty much this in his house - sealed up the
windows, taped round the doors and put mattresses up against them.
Don't think it cost $155k...
Regards!
Stephen
A
amit
Guest
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz
> <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
> > >
> > >http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
> > >
> >
> > WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's
> next?
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> $155,000 for a room?
>
> That seems excessive. All you'd have to do to make one of those rooms
> is put a lot of paint on the walls and ceiling and floor, caulk the
> seams between them, use a lot of weather stripping for the door, then
> run one of those oxygen separating units, except the oxygen gets
> diverted outside the room.
>
> If I was still racing and still owned my house, I'd have converted my
> bedroom. It wouldn't be *that* expensive - the main cost would be
> getting the oxygen separation equipment which would cost in the
single
> digit thousands.
>
> Good for Shaun - his bank balance must be a lot fatter these days.
> K. Gringioni.
dumbass,
maybe you should get off your ass and make some chang chambers for your
local fatties and get a piece of that pie.
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz
> <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
> > >
> > >http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
> > >
> >
> > WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's
> next?
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> $155,000 for a room?
>
> That seems excessive. All you'd have to do to make one of those rooms
> is put a lot of paint on the walls and ceiling and floor, caulk the
> seams between them, use a lot of weather stripping for the door, then
> run one of those oxygen separating units, except the oxygen gets
> diverted outside the room.
>
> If I was still racing and still owned my house, I'd have converted my
> bedroom. It wouldn't be *that* expensive - the main cost would be
> getting the oxygen separation equipment which would cost in the
single
> digit thousands.
>
> Good for Shaun - his bank balance must be a lot fatter these days.
> K. Gringioni.
dumbass,
maybe you should get off your ass and make some chang chambers for your
local fatties and get a piece of that pie.
P
Phil
Guest
Carl Sundquist wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
> >
> >http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
> >
>
> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
WADA will never ban such systems because there is no way to distinguish
between someone using an altitude room or simply moving to
Colorado/Arizona/New Mexico to live at altitude in order to gain a
performance-enhancing effect.
When WADA outlaws alitude tents, they will also outlaw living in Boulder,
Colo.
Phil
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:55:37 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Building altitude rooms for speed skaters.
> >
> >http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/dec04/284869.asp
> >
>
> WADA is looking into banning simulated altitude chambers? What's next?
WADA will never ban such systems because there is no way to distinguish
between someone using an altitude room or simply moving to
Colorado/Arizona/New Mexico to live at altitude in order to gain a
performance-enhancing effect.
When WADA outlaws alitude tents, they will also outlaw living in Boulder,
Colo.
Phil
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Carl Sundquist
Guest
"Steve McGinty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Chris Boardman did pretty much this in his house - sealed up the
> windows, taped round the doors and put mattresses up against them.
> Don't think it cost $155k...
>
And the mattresses served what purpose, exactly?
>
> Chris Boardman did pretty much this in his house - sealed up the
> windows, taped round the doors and put mattresses up against them.
> Don't think it cost $155k...
>
And the mattresses served what purpose, exactly?
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Carl Sundquist
Guest
"Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I think he's missing the boat. What he needs to do is figure out
> how to seal a room well enough to run a vacuum pump and lower
> atmospheric pressure. Then convince people that the reduced air
> pressure enhances erections. Sort of like using a peter pump but
> without the need for a rubber band.
>
That you have even thought of this is disquieting.
>
> I think he's missing the boat. What he needs to do is figure out
> how to seal a room well enough to run a vacuum pump and lower
> atmospheric pressure. Then convince people that the reduced air
> pressure enhances erections. Sort of like using a peter pump but
> without the need for a rubber band.
>
That you have even thought of this is disquieting.
E
Ewoud Dronkert
Guest
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:47:25 -0600, Carl Sundquist wrote:
>> Chris Boardman did pretty much this in his house - sealed up the
>> windows, taped round the doors and put mattresses up against them.
>> Don't think it cost $155k...
>
> And the mattresses served what purpose, exactly?
To keep him from hurting himself after 24h in a sealed room.
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>> Chris Boardman did pretty much this in his house - sealed up the
>> windows, taped round the doors and put mattresses up against them.
>> Don't think it cost $155k...
>
> And the mattresses served what purpose, exactly?
To keep him from hurting himself after 24h in a sealed room.
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h squared
Guest
Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> "Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > I think he's missing the boat. What he needs to do is figure out
> > how to seal a room well enough to run a vacuum pump and lower
> > atmospheric pressure. Then convince people that the reduced air
> > pressure enhances erections. Sort of like using a peter pump but
> > without the need for a rubber band.
> >
>
> That you have even thought of this is disquieting.
nope, makes perfect sense to me. see, bob has recently been
"researching" for that nude skiing photo he promised me, (as
cold=shrinkage, or so i've been told, ), so the subject was already on
his mind...
heather
>
> "Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > I think he's missing the boat. What he needs to do is figure out
> > how to seal a room well enough to run a vacuum pump and lower
> > atmospheric pressure. Then convince people that the reduced air
> > pressure enhances erections. Sort of like using a peter pump but
> > without the need for a rubber band.
> >
>
> That you have even thought of this is disquieting.
nope, makes perfect sense to me. see, bob has recently been
"researching" for that nude skiing photo he promised me, (as
cold=shrinkage, or so i've been told, ), so the subject was already on
his mind...
heather
H
h squared
Guest
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>
> If I was still racing and still owned my house
so where are you living now?
heather
>
> If I was still racing and still owned my house
so where are you living now?
heather
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Robert Chung
Guest
h squared wrote:
> (as cold=shrinkage, or so i've been told, )
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/ed5170c7d36e0b52
> (as cold=shrinkage, or so i've been told, )
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/ed5170c7d36e0b52
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