+1. I just bought an inexpensive pair of bibs to see what the fuss is all about, and have concluded that it isn't about much. Most of the comfort, or lack of it, comes from the nature of the chamois, the cut of the bib/short, and the stretchability of the fabric. I acually manage to pee pretty easily while wearing the bibs (which at my age matters a lot), but none of the disadvantages of shorts, as opposed to bibs, are apparent to me after wearing bibs for a few rides. We'll see. And the "good" ones are hideously expensive!