Omg, ain't that the truth! Some things have come out of that country that has no right existing in this world.CAMPYBOB said:87% of all the world's weirdness comes from Japan.
And most of that is from the fallout of shitmaNO ****.
Omg, ain't that the truth! Some things have come out of that country that has no right existing in this world.CAMPYBOB said:87% of all the world's weirdness comes from Japan.
And most of that is from the fallout of shitmaNO ****.
I'll give you some if you get back to therapy.swampy1970 said:But sometimes it just works better. Gimmee Chocolate!
This is what happens nowadays when you go for the lightest stuff you can find, it breaks because they use thinner metal to reduce weight, or they use lightweight metal in areas that the metal they're using wasn't design to handle that kind of load. Back in olden days when a person bought high end components it also meant it would hold up longer, not in todays world; combine that with the marketing approach that if they break it they will buy it mentality of modern corporations of any industry and you have this sort of problem pictured above. Unless you're ultra wealthy, or are racing with sponsors to pay for this junk, there is no need for someone to be buying this sort of garbage. Personally I think that if your ultra wealthy and don't care about stuff breaking because it uber light maybe you should care about the possible injuries that could be sustained when something breaks, the above crank breakage could have resulted in a very serious injury to the rider.Volnix said:So now you have to count teeth for the bottom bracket too huh?
So you got a 12T Crank spider which will be "upgraded" to 13T next year (Why? What do you mean why? Because it's... faster! Go and buy it now before someone sees you.)
Or you wanna wait until they change the cups for Over Size Bottom Bracket II ( the extra slippy version with balls made of Satanium, which dont fit to the medium slippy one which accepts the torque-ier crank).
This is f@ckin sh^t... Thousands of companies making bicycles. Only 3 f@ckin companies making transmission parts...
Froze said:This is what happens nowadays when you go for the lightest stuff you can find, it breaks because they use thinner metal to reduce weight, or they use lightweight metal in areas that the metal they're using wasn't design to handle that kind of load. Back in olden days when a person bought high end components it also meant it would hold up longer, not in todays world; combine that with the marketing approach that if they break it they will buy it mentality of modern corporations of any industry and you have this sort of problem pictured above. Unless you're ultra wealthy, or are racing with sponsors to pay for this junk, there is no need for someone to be buying this sort of garbage. Personally I think that if your ultra wealthy and don't care about stuff breaking because it uber light maybe you should care about the possible injuries that could be sustained when something breaks, the above crank breakage could have resulted in a very serious injury to the rider.
dhk2 said:Agree in general that ultralight components are stupid. But it's what us customers tend to demand over durability. After all, weight, unlike strength and durability, is easily measured, and lightweight is automatically worth more to many buyers. As if shaving off metal, making something thinner, makes it a "better part". But hey, we're all racers in our fantasy minds, and saving that last pound in bike weight could make all the difference on the next weekend club ride.....even if we're 25 lbs overweight ourselves (like me currently).
Concerning that failure picture, my first thought is that the failure is likely due to over-torque of the fixing bolt. If the failure was caused by simply excessive force on the crankarm, or poor metallurgy, the thin section spindle would fail, but not continue through the hub area around the bolt. IE, my theory is that the crack started there in the hub and progressed out to the end of the spindle.
Believe bolt over-torqueing is likely to occur with this hirth joint design because if the crank ever starts clicking, the first response would be to go in and tighten the bolt "real good". Getting back to your theme, this ultralight stuff has to be installed and maintained (and used) carefully to maintain it's integrity...why risk it to save miniscule weight?
LOL, this was funny but correct, I think engineers do the same thing with cars too, gee where should we put the spare? I know under a rear seat and carpet so it takes 15 minutes to try to figure out how to get the seat up and out and then get the carpet/floor out of the way, and have it engaged by a seemingly endless length bolt so that takes 5 minutes just to spin that off, then locate the jack somewhere else where no one would ever suspect to find it like under the front seat or inside the engine compartment, why locate it with the spare? Now spend another 30 minutes trying to get it all back together again.Volnix said:Yep... But then again in the old days they would go way far in terms of durability sometimes. Have you seen these 70's bicycles which instead of brake cables have articulated axles! to engage the brake?
I also get a feeling that they have run out of ideas... They just don't know what to do anymore to provide the market with something "new and improved" so they just go like: "-What are we gonna do this year? -Dunno man, let's just move the fixing point of the crank axle to the middle of the axle or something and whip a stiffness graph or something".
Lolololol Maybe "sticky bottles" dont cut it anymore in terms of "support" and they have decided to turn into more "drastic measures" to support their team...CAMPYBOB said:Remember...the big 'S' stands for: Sucks!
Excuse me! Pardon me!
CAMPYBOB said:Thanks to shitmaNO's domination of the world, Kristoff/Katusha won the event anyway.
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