Sleeping mats for camping.

[Don Whybrow]

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
>
> I've put a bunch of keys under my Thermarest on the kitchen floor and
> couldn't feel the keys...

Is this the modern variant of the pea test for princesses?

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[Tony Raven]

Don Whybrow wrote on 30/03/2007 17:29 +0100:
> Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
>>
>> I've put a bunch of keys under my Thermarest on the kitchen floor and
>> couldn't feel the keys...
>
> Is this the modern variant of the pea test for princesses?
>

More to do with ability of medics, gained during their days as a house
officer, to sleep anywhere.

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Tony

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is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell

 

[TerryJ]

This is the kind of thread we need more of, lots of good advice from
experience, with no helmets, driver antics, legal wind -ups. I think
so much has already been said down the years that the basics have got
rather pushed to the background.



I usually go with a basic karrimat, and can remember in my teens
sleeping perfectly well without even that.Now I usually get only a
little sleep and get up stiff as a board with that awake all night
feeling.I shall look for a thermarest for the next long trip.
TerryJ

 

[Judith]

On 30 Mar 2007 09:11:06 -0700, "dkahn400" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Some friends have their own design, used to great effect on events
>> such as the OMM, SLMM, LAMM and Polaris.http://www.balloonbed.com/
>
>What a brilliant idea.

Nah, I'd never get any sleep on one of them. I'd be up all night
making giraffes and dachshunds.

Judith
(Thermarest Ultralite 3/4)

 

[Ambrose Nankivell]

Peter Clinch wrote:
> Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>> These things sound enormous - 51 x 183 x 3.8cm is 35 litres. How on earth
>> do you pack that on a bike? What size/volume do they pack down to? I
>> confess my bones are getting a little old for a karrimat...
>
> My "Standard Long" T-Rest packs to about the same size as a (proper)
> Karrimat. My Ultralite Long packs down considerably smaller, at the
> expense of some comfort (but still much better than the K-mat).
>
> The only pains involved are the up-front capital and the repeated
> kicking yourself for not having bought one years ago...

Also the kicking you get from your friends for smugly mentioning it all
the time.

A

 

[Ambrose Nankivell]

TerryJ wrote:
> This is the kind of thread we need more of, lots of good advice from
> experience, with no helmets, driver antics, legal wind -ups. I think
> so much has already been said down the years that the basics have got
> rather pushed to the background.

I got hit on my head and 'seriously injured' while using my Thermarest
in 2001. Clearly I should have been wearing a helmet. Any further
comments.

A

 

[Ambrose Nankivell]

Peter Clinch wrote:
> Pinky wrote:
>
>> I shall undoubtedly get the thermarest -- probably will go for the
>> Prolite4. Going to hunt around for price now being an old miser!
>
> Possibly a Cunning Plan is go to a good outdoor store and try out
> several models (no problem if it /is/ a good store!). All very well
> getting a Prolite for more weight/bulk saving, but if it turns out you'd
> sleep twice as well on a TrailLite maybe not the best choice after all.
> And the only way to be really sure is by trying them out on a hardish
> floor and seeing how your own particular bones react.

I find that they're much nicer on a lumpy floor than on a solid floor,
too. I don't notice anything at all under me when camping, but kipping
over at someone's house on it, I find it hard to sleep.

A

 

[Danny Colyer]

al Mossah wrote:
> Some friends have their own design, used to great effect on events
> such as the OMM, SLMM, LAMM and Polaris.
> http://www.balloonbed.com/

260Q's are what I mostly use for balloon modelling, which means that I
always have a good supply of them. My first thought on looking at that
bed was that it would be horrendously squeaky, but actually the balloons
shouldn't rub together because they're in separate compartments, so it
might be OK.

It's a very cool idea, anyway. I might even make one if I can find a
supply of circular tuits. I don't need one, because I'm perfectly happy
with my Thermarest (just as I was perfectly happy with my foam mat
before that, I bought the Thermarest mostly because it packs smaller).

£3.75 for 25 balloons seems a bit steep. I usually pay about a fiver
for a pack of 100.

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Daddy, why did you put that down?" - Charlie Colyer, age 2

 

[Helen Deborah Vecht]

Don Whybrow <[email protected]>typed


> Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
> >
> > I've put a bunch of keys under my Thermarest on the kitchen floor and
> > couldn't feel the keys...

> Is this the modern variant of the pea test for princesses?

I was demonstating the Thermarest to a young nephew at the time. It was
only a single Thermarest.

Jewish Princess

Edgware

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[Helen Deborah Vecht]

Tony Raven <[email protected]>typed


> Don Whybrow wrote on 30/03/2007 17:29 +0100:
> > Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
> >>
> >> I've put a bunch of keys under my Thermarest on the kitchen floor and
> >> couldn't feel the keys...
> >
> > Is this the modern variant of the pea test for princesses?
> >

> More to do with ability of medics, gained during their days as a house
> officer, to sleep anywhere.

I was sleeping in lectures long before house jobs and Audax refined my
'sleep anywhere' abilities...

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Edgware.

 

[Lee]

"Andy Key" <[email protected]>
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, Señor Chris
> <[email protected]> writes
> >Pinky wrote:
<snip

> >
> >I have a Thermarest ProLite 4 Regular:
> >
>
> After a rat ate my Thermarest, I replaced it (the mat, not the rat) with
> a Field & Trek own-brand equivalent. Much cheaper and seems just as
> good.
>
>
>

Towsure supply a similar mattress for £16.95p (singlemat), what kind of
quality, or lack of, would i expect for that price ..... it does look very
good!!

Lee.....(Newbie)...

 

[Peter Clinch]

Pinky wrote:

> If it were to become available in UK at a lower price it might be good!

They are available in the UK (at e.g. Facewest), but don't expect to
save /that/ much money, they're still mucho £££s :-(

Pete.
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[John Kane]

On Mar 30, 3:36 am, Peter Clinch <[email protected]> wrote:
> Clive George wrote:
> > Thermarest. They come in various thicknesses, lengths and weights.
> > Before I got one I thought they were expensive - but not now.
>
> They're much cheaper than they used to be in real terms. In the late
> 80s they were around £50. Now they're around... £50.

Wow that is a drop in price! I wonder how they did it?

>
> Couldn't afford one until I was on a research junket in the US in '91,
> where I got a "second" at $40. Second or not, it's still going fine.
> Had to patch it last year after a fire cinder landed on it, but the
> repair kit is very little space and weight. Not a purchase I have
> /ever/ regretted.
>
> A friend over from the US "paid" me for a stack of favours with an
> Ultralite (superseded by the Prolites, I think) a few years ago. Not as
> comfy, but still very good and quite a bit lighter and less bulky to pack.
>
> IME the "standard" ones are an excellent compromise between pack
> size/weight and great comfort. Go lighter for less comfort but more
> space and lighter load, or go for the de-luxe ones if you've got the
> space and want/need more luxury.
>
> Pete.
> --
> Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
> Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
> Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
> net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

 

[Peter Clinch]

John Kane wrote:

>> They're much cheaper than they used to be in real terms. In the late
>> 80s they were around £50. Now they're around... £50.
>
> Wow that is a drop in price! I wonder how they did it?

By cunningly manipulating high finance international markets over
years and years so money was worth less now than then... Cunning
folk at Cascade Designs! ;-)

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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[Matthew Haigh]

TerryJ wrote:

> I usually go with a basic karrimat, and can remember in my teens
> sleeping perfectly well without even that.

I used to kip down in a sleeping bag inside a bright orange plastic
bivvy bag. Karrimats and tents were for wusses

> Now I usually get only a
> little sleep and get up stiff as a board with that awake all night
> feeling.

I'm like that in a standard bed nowadays :-(
I must investigate these thermarests, we've got a couple of weeks
camping this summer.

Matt