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jim beam
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[email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:56:45 -0700, jim beam
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> My rear tire held all the way home, dropping from 120 psi to 90 psi
>>> without me even noticing it on the smooth pavement (d'oh!), but it
>>> looks as if I need to put in a fresh tube and patch this one:
>>>
>>> http://i9.tinypic.com/5xsbmg1.jpg
>>>
>>> I just happened to glance at it this evening. That lurid green stuff
>>> doesn't leave any room for excuses about just topping up the tire.
>>> Looks like flat #16 in 120 rides so far this year, about one per week.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carl Fogel
>> carl, i'm interested - what brands and models of tires have you tried in
>> your pursuit of puncture resistance?
>
> Dear Jim,
>
> I used cheap, heavy 27 & 1/4 inch tires back when I had such rims.
> They proved vulnerable to goatheads, even with thorn-resistant thicker
> tubes. Mr. Tuffy plastic liners seemed to help a little, but goatheads
> still went through the sidewalls (and occasionally the plastic
> strips).
>
> When I switched to 700c, I began using Slime tubes with tires from
> Performance that had Kevlar beads and belts--the Forte house brand
> 700cx26 didn't cost too much, I could roll a spare up in my seat bag,
> and the slight extra thickness of the Kevlar belt theoretically stops
> some goatheads short, while rolling better than Mr. Tuffy strips.
>
> Alas, Performance has stopped selling the tan sidewall Kevlar bead and
> belt Forte 700x26 tires, so I just started trying some alleged 700x25
> Forte tires with a steel bead, a Kevlar belt, and black sidewalls.
>
> I dislike them.
>
> First, they're much harder to get on and off the rim, which I do more
> often than some people, and won't roll up to fit in my seat bag.
>
> Next, the damn things aren't 25 mm wide--they're closer to 22 mm. I
> measured because I managed a rare impact flat on my first ride. The
> pinch flat came as I turned into my driveway, so I knew that something
> was wrong. After that, I pumped them up to 120 psi instead of 110 psi.
> (Their sole advantage is that they pump up more quickly and easily
> than my older, wider tires.)
>
> Finally, the black sidewalls make it much harder to glance down and
> back and see if the tire is going soft with a slow leak, something
> that I also do more often than some people. Unlike a solid black tire,
> a tan sidewall shows up nicely against the asphalt if it starts to
> sag.
>
> There are thicker tires, tougher tires, other kinds of slime, and
> various plastic liners, but I'm used to a couple of flats per month.
> If I want to stop the insanity, I can either take Jobst's amusing
> advice (don't ride there) or else strap some MTB knobbies onto my
> rims, add thorn-resistant tubes, tire liners, and some Slime, and
> trundle along like the poor devils I see out in the goathead hell of
> Pueblo West, where nothing else seems to work.
>
> Since I was replacing my rear tube and had the pump in my hand, I
> checked my front tire. No green Slime, but it's down 10 psi in a few
> days, so it's time to replace that tube and find the tiny goathead
> leak.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
i was interested to see if fogel labs have had a chance to test tires
that are alleged to be puncture resistant rather than standard tires.
i've had great luck with hutchinsons in this regard.
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:56:45 -0700, jim beam
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> My rear tire held all the way home, dropping from 120 psi to 90 psi
>>> without me even noticing it on the smooth pavement (d'oh!), but it
>>> looks as if I need to put in a fresh tube and patch this one:
>>>
>>> http://i9.tinypic.com/5xsbmg1.jpg
>>>
>>> I just happened to glance at it this evening. That lurid green stuff
>>> doesn't leave any room for excuses about just topping up the tire.
>>> Looks like flat #16 in 120 rides so far this year, about one per week.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carl Fogel
>> carl, i'm interested - what brands and models of tires have you tried in
>> your pursuit of puncture resistance?
>
> Dear Jim,
>
> I used cheap, heavy 27 & 1/4 inch tires back when I had such rims.
> They proved vulnerable to goatheads, even with thorn-resistant thicker
> tubes. Mr. Tuffy plastic liners seemed to help a little, but goatheads
> still went through the sidewalls (and occasionally the plastic
> strips).
>
> When I switched to 700c, I began using Slime tubes with tires from
> Performance that had Kevlar beads and belts--the Forte house brand
> 700cx26 didn't cost too much, I could roll a spare up in my seat bag,
> and the slight extra thickness of the Kevlar belt theoretically stops
> some goatheads short, while rolling better than Mr. Tuffy strips.
>
> Alas, Performance has stopped selling the tan sidewall Kevlar bead and
> belt Forte 700x26 tires, so I just started trying some alleged 700x25
> Forte tires with a steel bead, a Kevlar belt, and black sidewalls.
>
> I dislike them.
>
> First, they're much harder to get on and off the rim, which I do more
> often than some people, and won't roll up to fit in my seat bag.
>
> Next, the damn things aren't 25 mm wide--they're closer to 22 mm. I
> measured because I managed a rare impact flat on my first ride. The
> pinch flat came as I turned into my driveway, so I knew that something
> was wrong. After that, I pumped them up to 120 psi instead of 110 psi.
> (Their sole advantage is that they pump up more quickly and easily
> than my older, wider tires.)
>
> Finally, the black sidewalls make it much harder to glance down and
> back and see if the tire is going soft with a slow leak, something
> that I also do more often than some people. Unlike a solid black tire,
> a tan sidewall shows up nicely against the asphalt if it starts to
> sag.
>
> There are thicker tires, tougher tires, other kinds of slime, and
> various plastic liners, but I'm used to a couple of flats per month.
> If I want to stop the insanity, I can either take Jobst's amusing
> advice (don't ride there) or else strap some MTB knobbies onto my
> rims, add thorn-resistant tubes, tire liners, and some Slime, and
> trundle along like the poor devils I see out in the goathead hell of
> Pueblo West, where nothing else seems to work.
>
> Since I was replacing my rear tube and had the pump in my hand, I
> checked my front tire. No green Slime, but it's down 10 psi in a few
> days, so it's time to replace that tube and find the tiny goathead
> leak.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
i was interested to see if fogel labs have had a chance to test tires
that are alleged to be puncture resistant rather than standard tires.
i've had great luck with hutchinsons in this regard.