I STILL can't tell if you're just pulling my leg. I'll presume you just have an off-beat sence of
humor... In which case here's a song for you
http://www.cyberonic.net/~gdevault/Sandbox.mp3
"Joshua Goldberg" <
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> That would be a Definate Serious...I'm shocked you'd think I was kidding. I was trying to be nice
> before and avoid writing what I really think and what I really think is that this bent is NOT
> worth spending more than a
few
> milliseconds thinking about. IF you really think this bent is so great how about a Challenge? You
> get Freddie to offer to BUY BACK on this bent at the Full Price
(within)
> 180 days of the Purchase and THEN I will talk nice. **No Buy Back Program and then it is open
> season on this Lemon**
>
> Oh Yeah...how can every single comment I made (below) be wrong?? I am only offering MY
> (unmedicated) Opinion and I am NOT the Voice of this entire Newsgroup........... YET
>
> You posted some pics and seemed to invite comments and you got comments, surely you were NOT
> expecting all the comments to be from people who
thought
> this (Lemon) would be favourable?
>
> So There
>
>
>
>
>
> "bentnut" <
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>
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> > Joshua, I guess you're just a glass is half empty kind of guy. Every
> single
> > comment you made is just wrong. I can't tell if you're trolling or serious...
> >
> >
> > "Joshua Goldberg" <
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> >
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> > >
> > > Heh Gabe it is a personal taste issue, just because I think the bent looks like something
> > > someone who had never (seen) or built a LWB before, decided
to
> > try
> > > making one in his garage don't mean people won't buy it. People buy
lots
> > of
> > > stuff that make me wonder what is wrong with them....then eventually
> they
> > > realize the error of their ways and buy what I thought they should
have
> > > bought in the 1st place. IMHO (only) the Fairing should make it in2 limited production and
> > > what
> it
> > is
> > > attached to will need to sell in the $3K range to offset only a few
> being
> > > sold each year. First impressions are often misleading, but there are some bent
designs
> > that
> > > you can FEEL are destined to be winners with a long production
> > life....then
> > > there is THIS bent...nice fairing though and the fairing is ideal for
> > pilots
> > > who really don't care that they cannot see the pothole, road debris
and
> > cute
> > > little squirrel they are about to mow down because the fairing is not
> > clear.
> > > It is as if the pilot is forced to sit in such an upright sitting
> position
> > > in order to see the road ahead via the small tinted windscreen section
> of
> > > the fairing....you lean back and you could plough into Bambi or a
> > something
> > > the size of a SUV. Just imagine the Liability issues surrounding a fairing that allows
you
> to
> > > plough into the back of a Greyhound Bus that you cannot see in front
of
> > you
> > > UNLESS you are sitting in a position equal to that of a MTB. You can bet the farm that people
> > > will buy such a fairing just so that
> they
> > > can be the 1st guy on their block to rear end a Bus. I would not want
to
> > own
> > > stock in the Insurance company selling the Liability Insurance for
that
> > > fairing. When I looked at those pics you posted...Gardner did NOT look at all pleased. He was
> > > probably thinking....damn I'm glad we are NOT building
> > this.
> >
>
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> > > -----------------
> > >
> > > "Gabriel DeVault" <
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> > >
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> > > > Couple answers for your intelligent questions.
> > > >
> > > > 1. The steering seems very natural, light and easy. Freddy did the
> > remote
> > > > thing to eliminate the "tiller effect", it worked.
> > > >
> > > > 2. All Callfee prototypes are made using hand wrapped joints, as are
> > their
> > > > tandems currently. Untill they establish a market, then they make
the
> > > molds
> > > > for the "lugs". This alone will probably knock a pound off the bike,
> and
> > > > it'll look nicer.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I believe different seat are being looked at.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Tell me about it. Still can't find carbon forks for the TE/GRR.
> > Someone
> > > > could make some cash if they built some...
> > > >
> > > > 5. The new socks are zippered all the way to the front.
> > > >
> > > > I can't wait to see one of these painted, Calfee's paint jobs are incredable. We will be
> > > > getting some official web stuff up soon. I'll
> > keep
> > > > ya' folks posted!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "derek" <
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> > > > > Gabe, Can you say "Sour Grapes?". I have always believed that the
reason
> > > bents
> > > > > are not yet mainstream is because of the curmudgeonly
personalities
> > some
> > > > of
> > > > > thier riders ;-) Thanks for posting the photos of the Calfee
> > prototype.
> > > > > This promises to be a very successful bent if it goes into
> production.
> > > It
> > > > > is way cool.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are some of my observations. I will try to sound intellegent
> but
> > > > can't
> > > > > guarantee it.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) The indirect linkage type steering is the most controversial
> aspect
> > > of
> > > > > the design. I personally have no problem with linkage steering,
but
> > > some
> > > > > bent experts are reviled by them. I would love to test ride this
> bike
> > > to
> > > > > get a feel for the steering.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) Calfee's trademark carbon fiber gusset's are not evident in
the
> > > > photos.
> > > > > I will bet there is a story behind that.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) With all due respect to Easy Racers, I would opt for a
different
> > > seat.
> > > > A
> > > > > Rotator Ti seat would probably drop the weight of this bike by on
> > pound
> > > or
> > > > > so. An Easy Racer Koolback or a Rans seat would weigh more but
would
> > > also
> > > > > appeal to a number of riders. If Calfee is smart, they will
> fabricate
> > a
> > > > > system that will mount different types of seats in order to let
> folks
> > > > satify
> > > > > individual tastes in the seating department.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) I am so happy to see a carbon fiber fork on this bent. The
> > recumbent
> > > > > industry generally lags far behind upright road bike technology in
> > this
> > > > > feature.
> > > > >
> > > > > 5) Interesting fairing - the composite with an integrated raised
> > > > plexiglass
> > > > > vision bubble is cool, but how do you manage to see the road
though
> > the
> > > > > plexiglass with the cloth sock in place, may I ask?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Derek "Gabriel DeVault" <
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> message
> > > > >
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> > > > > > What a bunch of skeptics. As if you can really judge " The
pedals
> > are
> > > > way
> > > > > > too close to the pilot, the front Hub is massive, the backrest
is
> > too
> > > > > > vertical to be comfortable." by looking at a photo. It will be
> > > available
> > > > > in
> > > > > > different sizes and the seat back is adjustable. The front hub
is
> > > > massive?
> > > > > > What's that supposed to mean? It's a standard bottom bracket. As
> to
> > > why?
> > > > > > Weight! The prototype weighs about 25 lbs, the production
version
> > will
> > > > > weigh
> > > > > > less than that by a couple pounds. Much less than any other LWB
> bent
> > > and
> > > > > > less than most SWB bents as well. Sheesh, what is with you
folks,
> > > > someone
> > > > > > poo in your sandbox?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "bentnut" <
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gabe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
