Snowmelt season begins



R

Ron Wallenfang

Guest
Temperatures in southern Wisconsin have finally begun making it over
32F on a daily basis, after a winter that, though not too much colder
than normal, was the worst ever for snowfall in some places and the
worst since the 1970s in others. That's back when the spiritual
parents of today's global warming alarmists were "ice age" alarmists.

For us confirmed northerners, the regular change of seasons is an
indispensible part of the human adventure. How monotonous it must be
after a while to have nothing but "another nice day"!

What does snowmelt season involve: well, for openers, there are
freeze-thaw cycles every day, that leave a few icy patches in the road
to add spice to the morning bike commute; you just get a little wet in
the afternoon. And of course, this means more potholes to avoid.

There's the joy of shedding a sweater, switching back to real biking
shoes, using thinner gloves, and looking forward to riding in bermudas
in a few more weeks. Then there's arriving at work, and finding for
the first time in many weeks that mine is not the only bike in the
main racks where I work - two others this week en route to 10 - 15
during the summer. And hopefully, by the end of this week, I can
resume riding the main bike trail north of downtown - it was still too
icy when I checked yesterday.

Along the commute, one can monitor the steady retreat of the snow,
begin with favored sunny locations and south facing slopes, then bare
spots around tree trunks that steadily radiate outwards, and so on
through grassy areas, small and large snowbanks, woodlots, and last of
all, the near glaciers that are piled up in parking lots.

As of today, the Milwaukee and Menomonee Rivers had a healthy flow,
but not yet a vigorous one, and most of that under ice (my
observations are at small falls). With all that flow underneath, I
sure wouldn't want to be on that ice.

And of course it's time for the ice fishermens' shacks on local lakes
to come off.

The spring softball and soccer leagues are chomping at the bit to get
going, but in these parts, can't do it until April, and it's an
adventure then.

To every season, its time!
 
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Ron Wallenfang
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Temperatures in southern Wisconsin have finally begun making it over
>32F on a daily basis, after a winter that, though not too much colder
>than normal, was the worst ever for snowfall in some places and the
>worst since the 1970s in others. That's back when the spiritual
>parents of today's global warming alarmists were "ice age" alarmists.
>
>For us confirmed northerners, the regular change of seasons is an
>indispensible part of the human adventure. How monotonous it must be
>after a while to have nothing but "another nice day"!
>
>What does snowmelt season involve: well, for openers, there are
>freeze-thaw cycles every day, that leave a few icy patches in the road
>to add spice to the morning bike commute; you just get a little wet in
>the afternoon. And of course, this means more potholes to avoid.
>
>There's the joy of shedding a sweater, switching back to real biking
>shoes, using thinner gloves, and looking forward to riding in bermudas
>in a few more weeks. Then there's arriving at work, and finding for
>the first time in many weeks that mine is not the only bike in the
>main racks where I work - two others this week en route to 10 - 15
>during the summer. And hopefully, by the end of this week, I can
>resume riding the main bike trail north of downtown - it was still too
>icy when I checked yesterday.
>
>Along the commute, one can monitor the steady retreat of the snow,
>begin with favored sunny locations and south facing slopes, then bare
>spots around tree trunks that steadily radiate outwards, and so on
>through grassy areas, small and large snowbanks, woodlots, and last of
>all, the near glaciers that are piled up in parking lots.
>
>As of today, the Milwaukee and Menomonee Rivers had a healthy flow,
>but not yet a vigorous one, and most of that under ice (my
>observations are at small falls). With all that flow underneath, I
>sure wouldn't want to be on that ice.
>
>And of course it's time for the ice fishermens' shacks on local lakes
>to come off.
>
>The spring softball and soccer leagues are chomping at the bit to get
>going, but in these parts, can't do it until April, and it's an
>adventure then.
>
>To every season, its time!



Yes....it's s sure sign of spring. The snow here has, for the most
part, already melted away. Save for the shady areas. We are still
getting the cool nights and patches of ice occasionally.

What melt-off we now have is LOADED with sand, salt and other misc.
items that make it a pain in the old behind to go through a puddle of
any kind right now.

I have washed my ride a number of times already to keep the salt at
bay. Hopefully that will work. But I can't wait until the temps are
above freezing and actually STAY that way!!!!!
__o | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
_`\(,_ | I no longer despair for the human race.
(_)/ (_) | ---H.G. Wells---
 
On Mar 13, 6:22 am, Harry Brogan
<hbrogan57_AT_NOSPAM_DOT_YAHOO_DOT_COM> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Ron Wallenfang
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Temperatures in southern Wisconsin have finally begun making it over
> >32F on a daily basis, after a winter that, though not too much colder
> >than normal, was the worst ever for snowfall in some places and the
> >worst since the 1970s in others.  That's back when the spiritual
> >parents of today's global warming alarmists were "ice age" alarmists.

>
> >For us confirmed northerners, the regular change of seasons is an
> >indispensible part of the human adventure.  How monotonous it must be
> >after a while to have nothing but "another nice day"!

>
> >What does snowmelt season involve:  well, for openers, there are
> >freeze-thaw cycles every day, that leave a few icy patches in the road
> >to add spice to the morning bike commute; you just get a little wet in
> >the afternoon.  And of course, this means more potholes to avoid.

>
> >There's the joy of shedding a sweater, switching back to real biking
> >shoes, using thinner gloves, and looking forward to riding in bermudas
> >in a few more weeks.  Then there's arriving at work, and finding for
> >the first time in many weeks that mine is not the only bike in the
> >main racks where I work - two others this week en route to 10 - 15
> >during the summer.  And hopefully, by the end of this week, I can
> >resume riding the main bike trail north of downtown - it was still too
> >icy when I checked yesterday.

>
> >Along the commute, one can monitor the steady retreat of the snow,
> >begin with favored sunny locations and south facing slopes, then bare
> >spots around tree trunks that steadily radiate outwards, and so on
> >through grassy areas, small and large snowbanks, woodlots, and last of
> >all, the near glaciers that are piled up in parking lots.

>
> >As of today, the Milwaukee and Menomonee Rivers had a healthy flow,
> >but not yet a vigorous one, and most of that under ice (my
> >observations are at small falls).  With all that flow underneath, I
> >sure wouldn't want to be on that ice.

>
> >And of course it's time for the ice fishermens' shacks on local lakes
> >to come off.

>
> >The spring softball and soccer leagues are chomping at the bit to get
> >going, but in these parts, can't do it until April, and it's an
> >adventure then.

>
> >To every season, its time!

>
> Yes....it's s sure sign of spring.  The snow here has, for the most
> part, already melted away.  Save for the shady areas.  We are still
> getting the cool nights and patches of ice occasionally.
>
> What melt-off we now have is LOADED with sand, salt and other misc.
> items that make it a pain in the old behind to go through a puddle of
> any kind right now.
>
> I have washed my ride a number of times already to keep the salt at
> bay.  Hopefully that will work.  But I can't wait until the temps are
> above freezing and actually STAY that way!!!!!
>    __o   | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
>  _`\(,_  | I no longer despair for the human race.
> (_)/ (_) |                         ---H.G. Wells---- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Ron, Where do you live? I am in Syracuse and whenever spring
seems to be here we get more snow and cold. I can;'t imagine
what that salt does to a bike. Love having daylight savings time
here. charlie
 
On Mar 13, 6:22 am, Harry Brogan
<hbrogan57_AT_NOSPAM_DOT_YAHOO_DOT_COM> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Ron Wallenfang
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Temperatures in southern Wisconsin have finally begun making it over
> >32F on a daily basis, after a winter that, though not too much colder
> >than normal, was the worst ever for snowfall in some places and the
> >worst since the 1970s in others.  That's back when the spiritual
> >parents of today's global warming alarmists were "ice age" alarmists.

>
> >For us confirmed northerners, the regular change of seasons is an
> >indispensible part of the human adventure.  How monotonous it must be
> >after a while to have nothing but "another nice day"!

>
> >What does snowmelt season involve:  well, for openers, there are
> >freeze-thaw cycles every day, that leave a few icy patches in the road
> >to add spice to the morning bike commute; you just get a little wet in
> >the afternoon.  And of course, this means more potholes to avoid.

>
> >There's the joy of shedding a sweater, switching back to real biking
> >shoes, using thinner gloves, and looking forward to riding in bermudas
> >in a few more weeks.  Then there's arriving at work, and finding for
> >the first time in many weeks that mine is not the only bike in the
> >main racks where I work - two others this week en route to 10 - 15
> >during the summer.  And hopefully, by the end of this week, I can
> >resume riding the main bike trail north of downtown - it was still too
> >icy when I checked yesterday.

>
> >Along the commute, one can monitor the steady retreat of the snow,
> >begin with favored sunny locations and south facing slopes, then bare
> >spots around tree trunks that steadily radiate outwards, and so on
> >through grassy areas, small and large snowbanks, woodlots, and last of
> >all, the near glaciers that are piled up in parking lots.

>
> >As of today, the Milwaukee and Menomonee Rivers had a healthy flow,
> >but not yet a vigorous one, and most of that under ice (my
> >observations are at small falls).  With all that flow underneath, I
> >sure wouldn't want to be on that ice.

>
> >And of course it's time for the ice fishermens' shacks on local lakes
> >to come off.

>
> >The spring softball and soccer leagues are chomping at the bit to get
> >going, but in these parts, can't do it until April, and it's an
> >adventure then.

>
> >To every season, its time!

>
> Yes....it's s sure sign of spring.  The snow here has, for the most
> part, already melted away.  Save for the shady areas.  We are still
> getting the cool nights and patches of ice occasionally.
>
> What melt-off we now have is LOADED with sand, salt and other misc.
> items that make it a pain in the old behind to go through a puddle of
> any kind right now.
>
> I have washed my ride a number of times already to keep the salt at
> bay.  Hopefully that will work.  But I can't wait until the temps are
> above freezing and actually STAY that way!!!!!
>    __o   | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
>  _`\(,_  | I no longer despair for the human race.
> (_)/ (_) |                         ---H.G. Wells---- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Ah yes, snowmelt season. More road salt than anything else, and the
slush is almost as good for bike handling as it is for the bike
itself. The only consolation is that it's almost time to break out
the kayaks and do the summertime "lazy easy rivers" in grade 2+
conditions.
 
Ron Wallenfang wrote:

> For us confirmed northerners, the regular change of seasons is an
> indispensible part of the human adventure. How monotonous it must be
> after a while to have nothing but "another nice day"!


Indeed. Spring is just sooo much nicer after you've been
through a winter!

> What does snowmelt season involve: well, for openers, there are
> freeze-thaw cycles every day, that leave a few icy patches in the road
> to add spice to the morning bike commute; you just get a little wet in
> the afternoon. And of course, this means more potholes to avoid.


I don't recall a "pothole season" as bad as this one currently
underway. The roads seemed to self-destruct this winter. I
think the heavy rains combined with teen and sub-zero temperatures
that we had for week long segments really broke the roads.

> There's the joy of shedding a sweater, switching back to real biking
> shoes, using thinner gloves, and looking forward to riding in bermudas
> in a few more weeks. Then there's arriving at work, and finding for
> the first time in many weeks that mine is not the only bike in the
> main racks where I work - two others this week en route to 10 - 15
> during the summer. And hopefully, by the end of this week, I can
> resume riding the main bike trail north of downtown - it was still too
> icy when I checked yesterday.


I noted last spring an increase in bicycle traffic. In response to
the high gas prices that then receded during the summer.

The "new" riders weren't draped in lycra or spandex either.
Cruising along at 10 mph on a hybrid, somewhat unsteadily at the
extreme road edge, dressed in "normal clothes", I deduced they
were new commuters.

With gas prices back up to last spring's levels, and this time
probably not going down much, I suspect I'll see a new crop of
spring pedal commuters along the roads and bike paths at opening
and closing times of coming spring days.

It's good to see and the activity certainly beats my current $100
full tank gas fillup.

> Along the commute, one can monitor the steady retreat of the snow,
> begin with favored sunny locations and south facing slopes, then bare
> spots around tree trunks that steadily radiate outwards, and so on
> through grassy areas, small and large snowbanks, woodlots, and last of
> all, the near glaciers that are piled up in parking lots.


And the bears! One sees them along the local town bike path from
time to time, and I know from reports and personal experience (they
knocked off a couple bird feeders and walked off with a full cage
of suet from my yard this week) the bears are awake! It's become a
spring anticipation like early crocuses.

> To every season, its time!


Yes indeed. I do want time to start "slowing down" now though. I
hatch far too many plans for the spring-fall outdoor seasons to
actually accomplish, but it seems time accelerates once the sun comes
up early and leaves later.


SMH
 
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:31:10 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:

>On Mar 13, 6:22 am, Harry Brogan
><hbrogan57_AT_NOSPAM_DOT_YAHOO_DOT_COM> wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Ron Wallenfang
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Temperatures in southern Wisconsin have finally begun making it over
>> >32F on a daily basis, after a winter that, though not too much colder
>> >than normal, was the worst ever for snowfall in some places and the
>> >worst since the 1970s in others.  That's back when the spiritual
>> >parents of today's global warming alarmists were "ice age" alarmists.

>>
>> >For us confirmed northerners, the regular change of seasons is an
>> >indispensible part of the human adventure.  How monotonous it must be
>> >after a while to have nothing but "another nice day"!

>>
>> >What does snowmelt season involve:  well, for openers, there are
>> >freeze-thaw cycles every day, that leave a few icy patches in the road
>> >to add spice to the morning bike commute; you just get a little wet in
>> >the afternoon.  And of course, this means more potholes to avoid.

>>
>> >There's the joy of shedding a sweater, switching back to real biking
>> >shoes, using thinner gloves, and looking forward to riding in bermudas
>> >in a few more weeks.  Then there's arriving at work, and finding for
>> >the first time in many weeks that mine is not the only bike in the
>> >main racks where I work - two others this week en route to 10 - 15
>> >during the summer.  And hopefully, by the end of this week, I can
>> >resume riding the main bike trail north of downtown - it was still too
>> >icy when I checked yesterday.

>>
>> >Along the commute, one can monitor the steady retreat of the snow,
>> >begin with favored sunny locations and south facing slopes, then bare
>> >spots around tree trunks that steadily radiate outwards, and so on
>> >through grassy areas, small and large snowbanks, woodlots, and last of
>> >all, the near glaciers that are piled up in parking lots.

>>
>> >As of today, the Milwaukee and Menomonee Rivers had a healthy flow,
>> >but not yet a vigorous one, and most of that under ice (my
>> >observations are at small falls).  With all that flow underneath, I
>> >sure wouldn't want to be on that ice.

>>
>> >And of course it's time for the ice fishermens' shacks on local lakes
>> >to come off.

>>
>> >The spring softball and soccer leagues are chomping at the bit to get
>> >going, but in these parts, can't do it until April, and it's an
>> >adventure then.

>>
>> >To every season, its time!

>>
>> Yes....it's s sure sign of spring.  The snow here has, for the most
>> part, already melted away.  Save for the shady areas.  We are still
>> getting the cool nights and patches of ice occasionally.
>>
>> What melt-off we now have is LOADED with sand, salt and other misc.
>> items that make it a pain in the old behind to go through a puddle of
>> any kind right now.
>>
>> I have washed my ride a number of times already to keep the salt at
>> bay.  Hopefully that will work.  But I can't wait until the temps are
>> above freezing and actually STAY that way!!!!!
>>    __o   | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
>>  _`\(,_  | I no longer despair for the human race.
>> (_)/ (_) |                         ---H.G. Wells---- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>Ron, Where do you live? I am in Syracuse and whenever spring
>seems to be here we get more snow and cold. I can;'t imagine
>what that salt does to a bike. Love having daylight savings time
>here. charlie


I hedge with XC skate skiing.

Ben
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
> But what good is summer I ask you when winter shall soon return. The summers
> go by like Tom Sherman on his low-rider,[...]


Hey Ed,

The correct term is "lowracer", e.g. this is one of my lowracers:
<http://www.flickr.com/photos/19704682@N08/1939602865/>.

A "low-rider" is a bicycle built purely for show.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
if one looks low at the snow cover map, see an animation link.

when snow melts into the ground, dust, IC particulates are left
drifting into the air and off course into your lungs. The stuff is
waaaaayyy more than a cartoon of butts, enough for preserving Cheops'
ham.

yawl need to walk thru the fields more, feel the sun embrace the land
not whine about your fate.
 
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:26:51 GMT, Stephen Harding
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> There's the joy of shedding a sweater, switching back to real biking
>> shoes, using thinner gloves, and looking forward to riding in bermudas
>> in a few more weeks. Then there's arriving at work, and finding for
>> the first time in many weeks that mine is not the only bike in the
>> main racks where I work - two others this week en route to 10 - 15
>> during the summer. And hopefully, by the end of this week, I can
>> resume riding the main bike trail north of downtown - it was still too
>> icy when I checked yesterday.

>
>I noted last spring an increase in bicycle traffic. In response to
>the high gas prices that then receded during the summer.
>

Higher fuel prices are only part of the reason we're seeing more
bikes. Nice weather is going to bring out a lot of people for their
first of maybe six rides for the whole year. There's also the ones in
sweat suits or lycra determined to lose those excess pounds they
acquired over the winter.

The styling' fixer hipsters and casual cruisers are again emerging to
make the scene on the warmer sunny days. There are logically more
fair-weather cyclists commuting than the die-hards who ride all year.

Riding is possible, though not always pleasant, through Vancouver's
rainy winters. Sometimes spring, summer and autumn are wet too. Last
year summer was short.
This winter we've had two snowfalls that quickly turned to slush and
went away. I still have to watch for black-ice when the temperatures
get below freezing.

>The "new" riders weren't draped in lycra or spandex either.
>Cruising along at 10 mph on a hybrid, somewhat unsteadily at the
>extreme road edge, dressed in "normal clothes", I deduced they
>were new commuters.
>
>With gas prices back up to last spring's levels, and this time
>probably not going down much, I suspect I'll see a new crop of
>spring pedal commuters along the roads and bike paths at opening
>and closing times of coming spring days.


People are increasingly seeing images of bicycles inserted into their
advertising. Some people may ride more and drive less due to fuel
costs. Others may adopt cycling for different reasons. They may be
interested in reducing their carbon footprint or a living a lifestyle
more appealing to them than the NA$CAR, GMAC, AAA, etc. mainstream.

The more we can "normalise" cycling the more converts we'll attract.
Bicycling must, above all, be sexy. Stop dressing like a shlameil or
trying emulate Fabrizio Mazzoleni. Both baggies and lycra can look
hot if you know how to carry it off.
>
>It's good to see and the activity certainly beats my current $100
>full tank gas fillup.


Every winter I've noticed more cyclists on the road. I've recently
even seen lots of other bicycle tire tracks on the snow covered
streets. On a nice winter's day I'll see up to thirty other cyclists
in 7 km along a "bike-route". On a rainy day, in any season I might,
at best, see ten. It takes a prolonged bus strike before bike-rack
parking becomes problematic.

Snow meltt also means that a whole lot of dog **** is now exposed.
--
zk
 
Mr. Dolan, you should get out more and develop new interests.
I live in paradise on the beach at Cape Canaveral. The educated and
rich people here are mainly interested in smelling assholes. If your
interests run to that sort of thing, common down!
 
In article
<0f358d7b-5c08-4ced-a06a-4be3b75dd0c5@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Ron Wallenfang <[email protected]> wrote:

> Temperatures in southern Wisconsin have finally begun making it over
> 32F on a daily basis, after a winter that, though not too much colder
> than normal, was the worst ever for snowfall in some places and the
> worst since the 1970s in others. That's back when the spiritual
> parents of today's global warming alarmists were "ice age" alarmists.


<snip>

A local rag ran a story that Toronto's accumulated snowfall for the
winter of 07/08 is the greatest since 1939! And meteorologists say it
ain't over yet.

http://www.ibiketo.ca/node/2002?size=_original

But, by Gawd, the mild temperatures - that is, around zero celsius -
*are* welcome. Bring on Spring! Can't wait.
 
Ron Wallenfang wrote:
> Temperatures in southern Wisconsin have finally begun making it over
> 32F on a daily basis, after a winter that, though not too much colder
> than normal, was the worst ever for snowfall in some places and the
> worst since the 1970s in others. That's back when the spiritual
> parents of today's global warming alarmists were "ice age" alarmists.
>
> For us confirmed northerners, the regular change of seasons is an
> indispensible part of the human adventure. How monotonous it must be
> after a while to have nothing but "another nice day"!
>
> What does snowmelt season involve: well, for openers, there are
> freeze-thaw cycles every day, that leave a few icy patches in the road
> to add spice to the morning bike commute; you just get a little wet in
> the afternoon. And of course, this means more potholes to avoid.
>
> There's the joy of shedding a sweater, switching back to real biking
> shoes, using thinner gloves, and looking forward to riding in bermudas
> in a few more weeks. Then there's arriving at work, and finding for
> the first time in many weeks that mine is not the only bike in the
> main racks where I work - two others this week en route to 10 - 15
> during the summer. And hopefully, by the end of this week, I can
> resume riding the main bike trail north of downtown - it was still too
> icy when I checked yesterday.
>
> Along the commute, one can monitor the steady retreat of the snow,
> begin with favored sunny locations and south facing slopes, then bare
> spots around tree trunks that steadily radiate outwards, and so on
> through grassy areas, small and large snowbanks, woodlots, and last of
> all, the near glaciers that are piled up in parking lots.
>
> As of today, the Milwaukee and Menomonee Rivers had a healthy flow,
> but not yet a vigorous one, and most of that under ice (my
> observations are at small falls). With all that flow underneath, I
> sure wouldn't want to be on that ice.
>
> And of course it's time for the ice fishermens' shacks on local lakes
> to come off.
>
> The spring softball and soccer leagues are chomping at the bit to get
> going, but in these parts, can't do it until April, and it's an
> adventure then.
>
> To every season, its time!


Here in Winnipeg, with normal daytime highs nearing the freezing point,
we're encountering the first indication that spring is on its way:

the potholes have returned from San Juan Capistrano.

I'm spending a lot of time hanging out in LBSs looking for a new
commuter bike. The itch to be out on two wheels is killing me.
 
AH NO ed.

I am now under attack from Cape Canaveral for writing people here are
interested in asshole smelling. Posts adverting watchs maybe related
as my truck is under attack. A prior attack, of which the people of
Florida are proud of, was wiping acid on my 544's radiator. The people
here brag and support the WTC terrorism. After that say what, right?
Butbutbut what is true is true. The area sports several mobile
loudspeaker systems hearable over 1 mile or more, occasionally a
ship's hailer system is used.
One loudspeaker topic is asshole smelling. The truck or car carrying
the system will cruise the area advising the public, this is at
150-180 db, on whose asshole smells and whose asshole doesn't smell:
24 hours a day. For example, if you speak to a woman, a loudspeaker
will show up and begin advising you on the woman's genital hygiene.
As many locals work at KSC, I assume preoccupation with asshole
smelling is somehow related to rocketry.
Top that in Minneapolis ?
 
Harry Brogan wrote:
>
> Yes....it's s sure sign of spring. The snow here has, for the most
> part, already melted away. Save for the shady areas. We are still
> getting the cool nights and patches of ice occasionally.
>
> What melt-off we now have is LOADED with sand, salt and other misc.
> items that make it a pain in the old behind to go through a puddle of
> any kind right now.


On Friday the 14th we saw 95 F here in Austin. Today-- Saturday-- we
got 84 F. Not a bad March weekend all in all.

I can't reckon why y'all would live someplace that stayed so
inhospitable for so much of the year. Human beings came from East
Africa, you know.

Chalo
 
WEATHER IS CRITICAL.
Florida's endless summer promotes youth and health. Also as was
written: a plugged up toliet.
Middle school kids burst with health in January.
As for the midwest? Fort Myers boasts a large midwest, or at least
Ohioan population. They're polite, somewhat reserved, excellent
drivers, and dress funny in pastels. Their body language is wierd.
Almost like they came from another planet. Somewhat humorless, stunned
by the tropical climate.
With a NE background, I can tell one joke, get a long puzzled look.
Here on the west side highway, I can tell the same joke and get a
laugh.
Those midwest rides are all downwind, right?
I'm swimming on Monday.

again

Green is flood


http://www.nws.noaa.gov/


yellow is kayakville


http://www.nws.noaa.gov/ahps/


and yes, down 50% from last look I took-30 days ago?


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SNOW/


butbutbut not completely accurate


http://www.aspensnowmass.com/onmountain/reports/default.cfm


http://www.kjct8.com/Global/story.asp?S=7943303
 
Chalo wrote:
> Harry Brogan wrote:
>> Yes....it's s sure sign of spring. The snow here has, for the most
>> part, already melted away. Save for the shady areas. We are still
>> getting the cool nights and patches of ice occasionally.
>>
>> What melt-off we now have is LOADED with sand, salt and other misc.
>> items that make it a pain in the old behind to go through a puddle of
>> any kind right now.

>
> On Friday the 14th we saw 95 F here in Austin. Today-- Saturday-- we
> got 84 F. Not a bad March weekend all in all.
>
> I can't reckon why y'all would live someplace that stayed so
> inhospitable for so much of the year. Human beings came from East
> Africa, you know.
>
> Chalo
>

Some of us would consider 95F to be inhospitable.

When I lived in Dallas (TX), I concluded that summer in Dallas was like
winter in Winnipeg. Seriously. Consider: in Winnipeg, in the winter I
go from climate controlled building to climate controlled car to climate
controlled building, dressing for the weather and spending as little
time as necessary out doors. In Dallas, in the summer I went from
climate controlled building to climate controlled car to climate
controlled building, (un)dressing for the weather and spending as little
time as necessary out doors. Yes, the temperatures were (wildly)
different, but my behaviour was the same.

I went to East Africa once. I could see why the ancestors left.
 
TEXAS is brutal. Late Septmember,I came down the hill into ? Houston,
drove into the rest area, got a gallon of poisonous water, poured
water over myself, laydown on the grass to die.

HOWEVER, what happens over the long run, the skin surface loses fat
gaining A/C capillaries supplied by an increased capacity subdermal
blood supply supplied by an increased capacity everything and uroff to
greater Krebs Cycle efficencies.

AND NOW off course yawl been sittin' round on urbehinds for ? months.
So yagotta start all over again like last year.
 
datakoll wrote:
>
> TEXAS is brutal. Late Septmember,I came down the hill into ? Houston,
> drove into the rest area, got a gallon of poisonous water, poured
> water over myself, laydown on the grass to die.
>
> HOWEVER, what happens over the long run, the skin surface loses fat
> gaining A/C capillaries supplied by an increased capacity subdermal
> blood supply supplied by an increased capacity everything and uroff to
> greater Krebs Cycle efficencies.
>
> AND NOW off course yawl been sittin' round on urbehinds for ? months.
> So yagotta start all over again like last year.


What I use in Florida to keep cool:
http://www.50degree.com/

I can ride all over town without cracking a sweat, until . . . I get
into some A/C and then I am like a glass of iced tea.

I've been using this for about 4 years now. I get a few odd looks since
it looks like a bullet proof vest.
 
Jeff wrote:
>
> Consider: in Winnipeg, in the winter I
> go from climate controlled building to climate controlled car to climate
> controlled building, dressing for the weather and spending as little
> time as necessary out doors. In Dallas, in the summer I went from
> climate controlled building to climate controlled car to climate
> controlled building, (un)dressing for the weather and spending as little
> time as necessary out doors. Yes, the temperatures were (wildly)
> different, but my behaviour was the same.


There's a significant difference.

In Dallas, if you make brave and spend most of your time in the heat,
your body will acclimate nicely-- becoming stronger and cleaner and
allowing you to be comfortable outdoors. I don't run my air
conditioning until the temperatures rise deep into the 100s or else
the humidity becomes so high that my papers get limp and soggy.

In Winnipeg, if you wholeheartedly subject yourself to the cold, you
suffer chilblains, frostbite and/or death.

Hmmm... a healthier body, or disabling injury and death? To each his
own, I guess.

Chalo