Social parasites bucking for disability.
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Figure $15K for your retirement bicycle...$30K for a decked out Harley Geezer Trike...$70K-$80K for your pickup...$1.2 Mirrion for your Prevost coach (twin turbos, full granite counters, leather everything and enough electronic **** to jam the NSA and $150K per year to live on.
The Marcellus, Utica, Point Pleasant, Queenston, Clinton, and other shale plays added 558 millionaires in the last three years to one of the poorest counties in Ohio. Live large and retire to Tenn.!
Invest wisely and buy Uncle Sugar a Cruise missile or three...keep the rest just in case the 80th Anniversario Super Record EPS group and Pinarello Think 2.1.3 Pie becomes a must have item while touring Treviso.
My neighbor has a home on St. Thomas, a duplex in Montana that he keeps half open for him, 75 acres and and awesome restored farmhouse in West-By-God used for hunting and escapes from humanity, a condo in N. Carol on the ocean and interest in 350 acres of hunting dirt here in Ohio...in addition to his farm up the road from me...whew! Where is he this week? Turkey hunting somewhere in Tenn.!
The Marcellus, Utica, Point Pleasant, Queenston, Clinton, and other shale plays added 558 millionaires in the last three years to one of the poorest counties in Ohio. Live large and retire to Tenn.!
Invest wisely and buy Uncle Sugar a Cruise missile or three...keep the rest just in case the 80th Anniversario Super Record EPS group and Pinarello Think 2.1.3 Pie becomes a must have item while touring Treviso.
My neighbor has a home on St. Thomas, a duplex in Montana that he keeps half open for him, 75 acres and and awesome restored farmhouse in West-By-God used for hunting and escapes from humanity, a condo in N. Carol on the ocean and interest in 350 acres of hunting dirt here in Ohio...in addition to his farm up the road from me...whew! Where is he this week? Turkey hunting somewhere in Tenn.!
True, but that is only one route to buying "quality" food - I put that in quotes because I realize there is a lot of debate over the benefits of organic vs conventional. I personally think "fresh" is more important than anything else in terms of nutrition and overall "quality". Most people have access to a lot of different places to shop, so it isn't all that difficult, IMHO, to find good quality healthy food - without falling for the $25 a lb trap at Whole Foods. My have a strip-mall butcher shop here, same location for 40 years, inside maybe as big as a typical fast food place dining area, which really jumped on the "local" angle a few years ago. They have the best meat, usually same price or cheaper than the grocery stores, and the quality is amazing. I have been buying bulk packs of steaks for about 40-50% less per pound than Kroger or Meijer charge - 10-15 lbs of T-bones or Porterhouse for $4.50 to $4.99/lb. I only can and should cook and eat an 8 ounce portion, so that makes it cheaper than a fast-food burger. And now, I'm hungry, finally getting over the flu. If I didn't have to get up early, I'd go cook one right now.CAMPYBOB said:
Jed Clampett types abound in the shale plays around the nation. Nothing new around here, but the scale is insane when the dollars get talked about.
There is a small, quiet town not very far from me that is in the middle of a wet gas and oil shale field. Huge new processing plants,rail lines, new power lines and substations, tons of new businesses springing up, new motels and restaurants, lots of drilling going on.
This is actually the third major oil boom in that town. Here's a couple pictures of the first oil boom of 1900.
Scio today:
Those hills in the background ain't the Alps, but they kicked my ass yesterday afternoon...and the 20-30 MPH headwind didn't help matters!
There is a small, quiet town not very far from me that is in the middle of a wet gas and oil shale field. Huge new processing plants,rail lines, new power lines and substations, tons of new businesses springing up, new motels and restaurants, lots of drilling going on.
This is actually the third major oil boom in that town. Here's a couple pictures of the first oil boom of 1900.
Scio today:
Those hills in the background ain't the Alps, but they kicked my ass yesterday afternoon...and the 20-30 MPH headwind didn't help matters!
I can assure you that this phenomenon isn't limited to the US, loafers, freeloaders, couch potatoes and similar creatures abound worldwide. In many countries already 'enjoying' the wonderfulness of government-run health care, many people can be found at various doctor's offices on an almost daily basis ('cause it's 'free'.....), and disability checks, early retirement, time off whatever. time spent in the barcalounger, easy chair or similar contraption, supplied with a bowl full of junk food X are their ultimate life goals. Expect a lot more of this for at least the next 2 years, while the 'Affordable' (.....) Care Act does its' magic and the load on Medicaid and Medicare skyrockets, those being the only ACA options normal people can actually afford (sort of....). Prepare, in addition, to be BURIED under an avalanche of bureaucracy heretofore unknown on these shores and for prices of just about everything to go up and up and up and up.
But...but...but...I've been ASSURED the Unaffordable Care Act will make Americans so healthy they will all turn into $10.10/hour ditch diggers and coal shovelers (hey...it's shovel ready!) wind turbine tower erectors in only six months!!!
Health care has been expensive and involved whole rain forests of paperwork since day one...and ol' Jugears and Hitlary think putting da goobermint in charge is going to IMPROVE things!?!? Oy!
Health care has been expensive and involved whole rain forests of paperwork since day one...and ol' Jugears and Hitlary think putting da goobermint in charge is going to IMPROVE things!?!? Oy!
The really crazy part is that there are doctors out there that will help people go on disability when in reality that person doesn't need to be. I know of a guy who runs everyday and has a handicap plate so he can get preferred parking! Fortunately this guy does work though. But I've seen others driving year old cars with expensive mags, and expensive clothes, and pay their grocery bills with food stamps and living on disability. The system is screwed up beyond most of your imaginations. I use to volunteer work for inner city poor people, and these people would think nothing of spending $200 a week on lottery tickets, not to mention their chain smoking habit and booze drinking costs. I knew some that smoked expensive imported cigars, went out to eat every day at restaurants not fast food places which would be expensive by itself if you ate at one every day; and others who had the biggest most expensive TV you could buy complete with surround sound and an extensive library of videos, and all the cable TV options! Most of these people can work and should be working because most of them end up acting like teenagers causing trouble and partying all day and all night. The government is getting screwed but they don't seem to care because they know this stuff is going on but aren't doing anything about it...one needs to ask themselves why the government allow this.
Before you go off on me about homeless or mentally ill people those people are a different story. Most homeless people have a mental illness and don't want the help that is out there; mentally ill people are the ones in my opinion are not getting the help they need, so they do bad things so they go to jail to get the 3 squares and a cot. I had a friend that was a skilled carpenter, guitar player, and artist who lived in Santa Barbara, owned a house and had a wife and kids, lived like that for about 14 years and I knew him about 5 years before that (I knew him as a normal person for about 19 years), then one day he packed a sleeping bag and took off to join the ranks of the homeless, he never came back and it's been over 30 years now and is still homeless and plays his guitar for money so he can buy food and doesn't collect any social handout money. A lot of homeless people like to be under the radar, they think the government is trying to control them and by not being in the system they can't be controlled, some are so bad mentally and socialably that they don't want the help and wouldn't know what to do if they got the help; these people need to be institutionalized so they can get the help they need instead of being allowed to roam the streets.
The money being wasted on corrupt users of the system should be taken away and given to the people that really need it.
Before you go off on me about homeless or mentally ill people those people are a different story. Most homeless people have a mental illness and don't want the help that is out there; mentally ill people are the ones in my opinion are not getting the help they need, so they do bad things so they go to jail to get the 3 squares and a cot. I had a friend that was a skilled carpenter, guitar player, and artist who lived in Santa Barbara, owned a house and had a wife and kids, lived like that for about 14 years and I knew him about 5 years before that (I knew him as a normal person for about 19 years), then one day he packed a sleeping bag and took off to join the ranks of the homeless, he never came back and it's been over 30 years now and is still homeless and plays his guitar for money so he can buy food and doesn't collect any social handout money. A lot of homeless people like to be under the radar, they think the government is trying to control them and by not being in the system they can't be controlled, some are so bad mentally and socialably that they don't want the help and wouldn't know what to do if they got the help; these people need to be institutionalized so they can get the help they need instead of being allowed to roam the streets.
The money being wasted on corrupt users of the system should be taken away and given to the people that really need it.
I am getting calls on a regular basis asking me if I know how people can see a specialist since a lot of the doctors will not accept Obamacare. These are generally family members of employees that work where I work. Beyond that the decuctibles are so high as well as the co-pays that they can't afford the treatments. People are also signing up for ACA and going to the Doc the next day without a card or proof of insurance and being turned away.
I have nothing to do with the ACA but have attended several seminars on it and still have no answers to the questions that are popping up. I hope someone is benefiting from ACA besides the insurance companies and the government.
Edit: Just got our insurance renewal. Yep that ACA **** is really working since our premiums went down by ..... oh wait that went up. What a f**in surprise. Farwell good insurance program hello Affordable ****.
I have nothing to do with the ACA but have attended several seminars on it and still have no answers to the questions that are popping up. I hope someone is benefiting from ACA besides the insurance companies and the government.
Edit: Just got our insurance renewal. Yep that ACA **** is really working since our premiums went down by ..... oh wait that went up. What a f**in surprise. Farwell good insurance program hello Affordable ****.
If you like your current insurance premium, you can...oh, like hell you can!
We're screwed.
If you think health care is expensive now...just wait until it's FREE!!!
They impeached BillyBob for lying about his chubby with the chubbie and let Jugears slide on one unconstitutional pandering move after the next. Oy!
We're screwed.
If you think health care is expensive now...just wait until it's FREE!!!
They impeached BillyBob for lying about his chubby with the chubbie and let Jugears slide on one unconstitutional pandering move after the next. Oy!
http://healthcare.procon.org/#Background
The article is about guaranteeing a right to healthcare, not about obamacare (hence no mention of value-based purchasing), but I scanned it for economic arguments that could be applied to obamacare. Here is what I gathered.
pros:
5 - With more people insured, more people will get preventive care, realize they're sick sooner, and get treatment sooner (insurance costs will drop).
6 - With a longer, healthier life, each person can be more productive (economy).
7 - When one person is sick, other people suffer too—their children, for example (economy).
9 - More people will be entrepreneurs because they won't have to rely on employer provided healthcare (economy).
13 - Will help contain/counter the spread of illnesses. The government can always respond to dangerous infectious diseases by giving free treatment or vaccination.
cons:
4+14 - The "moral hazard" argument. If the government has to pay for our unhealthy habits or risky behaviors, there will be fewer disincentives to those behaviors (insurance costs will rise).
7 - Giving people free stuff makes them lazy and less productive (economy).
9 - With healthcare being provided at higher quantities, the quality will decrease (quality).
10 - government spending (economy)
12 - There's more competition in free markets (quality).
Quote ProCon - Right to Healthcare: The United States is one of the few if not the only developed nation in the world that does not guarantee universal health coverage for its citizens. [1] Out of the 193 member states of the World Health Organization, the United States ranked #1 in per capita health care expenditures ($6,719), [8] #31 in life expectancy (78 year average lifespan), and #152 in infant mortality rate (6 deaths per 1,000 infants). [19]
The article is about guaranteeing a right to healthcare, not about obamacare (hence no mention of value-based purchasing), but I scanned it for economic arguments that could be applied to obamacare. Here is what I gathered.
pros:
5 - With more people insured, more people will get preventive care, realize they're sick sooner, and get treatment sooner (insurance costs will drop).
6 - With a longer, healthier life, each person can be more productive (economy).
7 - When one person is sick, other people suffer too—their children, for example (economy).
9 - More people will be entrepreneurs because they won't have to rely on employer provided healthcare (economy).
13 - Will help contain/counter the spread of illnesses. The government can always respond to dangerous infectious diseases by giving free treatment or vaccination.
cons:
4+14 - The "moral hazard" argument. If the government has to pay for our unhealthy habits or risky behaviors, there will be fewer disincentives to those behaviors (insurance costs will rise).
7 - Giving people free stuff makes them lazy and less productive (economy).
9 - With healthcare being provided at higher quantities, the quality will decrease (quality).
10 - government spending (economy)
12 - There's more competition in free markets (quality).
Quote ProCon - Right to Healthcare: The United States is one of the few if not the only developed nation in the world that does not guarantee universal health coverage for its citizens. [1] Out of the 193 member states of the World Health Organization, the United States ranked #1 in per capita health care expenditures ($6,719), [8] #31 in life expectancy (78 year average lifespan), and #152 in infant mortality rate (6 deaths per 1,000 infants). [19]
Quote by u2k:
"The article is about guaranteeing a right to healthcare..."
There is no "right" to health care.
There is, however, a "right" to keep and bear arms.
It's that simple.
Oh...there is no right to a free Pinarello Prince for illegal immigrants, while we're on the subject of imaginary rights.
"The article is about guaranteeing a right to healthcare..."
There is no "right" to health care.
There is, however, a "right" to keep and bear arms.
It's that simple.
Oh...there is no right to a free Pinarello Prince for illegal immigrants, while we're on the subject of imaginary rights.
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