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soda vs. coffee

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  1. Ok, I know neither of these are exactly "nutritious" or "healthy"...
    but most afternoons at the office, I need a little caffiene
    pick-me-up. I was just wondering, which is the lesser of two evils
    to accomplish this: Soda or cappucino?

  2. "E.L. Lambert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Ok, I know neither of these are exactly "nutritious" or "healthy"... but most afternoons at the
    office, I need a little caffiene pick-me-up. I was just wondering, which is the lesser of two
    evils to accomplish this: Soda or cappucino?

    I don't think either one is "evil." Which ever one you like better, I guess. Personally, I like
    Diet Pepsi.

    Just be aware that there is a lot of calories in regular soda. Look at the label before you
    tip the can.

    Jeff

  3. [email hidden] (E.L. Lambert) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, I know neither of these are exactly "nutritious" or "healthy"... but most afternoons at the
    office, I need a little caffiene pick-me-up. I was just wondering, which is the lesser of two
    evils to accomplish this: Soda or cappucino?

    Since I'm not a nutritionist take my advice with a grain of salt. Maybe somebody can
    substantiate this, I heard that those who regularly drink coffee are less likely to suffer from
    heart disease. Now, if this is true coffee would be the lessor of the two evils. Though my
    advice would be to switch to green tea, which is rich in antioxidants and also contains caffeine
    if you need a pick-me-up.

  4. Once upon a time, our fellow E.L. Lambert rambled on about "soda vs. coffee." Our champion De-
    Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:

    I need a little caffiene pick-me-up. I was just wondering, which is the lesser of two evils to
    accomplish this: Soda or cappucino?

    There was a recent paper published on that.

    Subject: Diet: Coffee Associated with Lower Diabetes Risk Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:36:54 +0000
    Organization: Natural Health Perspective website

    Coffee Associated with Lower Diabetes Risk
    nlm.nih.govfullstory 15411.html "Reuters Health By Megan Rauscher
    Monday, January 5, 2004

    NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Study findings released on Monday provide more evidence that
    drinking coffee and other caffeinated beverages may protect against the development of type 2
    diabetes. However, investigators warn it is premature to recommend increased coffee consumption
    with this in mind.

    The new findings stem from data on more than 42,000 men and 84,000 women in the Health
    Professionals' Follow-up Study and Nurses' Health Study who reported on their caffeinated beverage
    consumption every 2 to 4 years over a period of 12 to 18 years.

    As reported in the Annals of Internal Medicine, Dr. Frank B. Hu from Harvard in Boston and
    colleagues documented 1,333 new cases of type 2 diabetes in men and 4,085 in women."

    SOURCE: Eduardo Salazar-Martinez, Walter C. Willett, Alberto Ascherio. Coffee Consumption and Risk
    for Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus annals.org1 Ann Intern Med
    2004 140: 1-8.

    ------------------------
    This Article Concluded:

    "In analyses that accounted for factors such as age, weight, cigarette smoking, and other dietary
    and lifestyle factors a statistically significant inverse relationship emerged between drinking
    coffee or other caffeinated beverages and the risk of diabetes in both men and women.

    The risk of diabetes was 7, 29 and 54 percent lower, respectively, in men who reported drinking one
    to three, four to five, or six or more cups of caffeinated coffee per day. The corresponding risk in
    women was 1, 30, and 29 percent, respectively.

    No such association was found for decaffeinated coffee consumption.

    Commenting on the results, Hu noted that "last year, a Dutch study found that heavy coffee drinkers
    had a substantially reduced risk of type 2 diabetes."

    "That study set off a major controversy among researchers because it is known that caffeine
    adversely affects (sugar) metabolism in short-term studies," he said.

    "(Ours) is a much larger study with longer follow up (and) is more rigorous in measuring coffee
    intake. Also, unlike the Dutch study, we looked at both regular coffee and decaffeinated," he added.

    Hu emphasized that while caffeine is a main ingredient of coffee, coffee has many other substances
    and compounds, such as magnesium and antioxidants, which may be beneficial for sugar metabolism
    and diabetes risk. "More studies are needed to examine the effects of these compounds in coffee,"
    he said. "
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  5. [email hidden] (Eric Sloan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    [email hidden] (E.L. Lambert) wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Ok, I know neither of these are exactly "nutritious" or "healthy"... but most afternoons at the
    office, I need a little caffiene pick-me-up. I was just wondering, which is the lesser of two
    evils to accomplish this: Soda or cappucino?

    Since I'm not a nutritionist take my advice with a grain of salt. Maybe somebody can
    substantiate this, I heard that those who regularly drink coffee are less likely to suffer from
    heart disease. Now, if this is true coffee would be the lessor of the two evils. Though my
    advice would be to switch to green tea, which is rich in antioxidants and also contains caffeine
    if you need a pick-me-up.

    What you are thinking about is probably a recent "study" that generated headline like "Coffee lowers
    risk of diabetes". The study found that statistically people who drink 6 or 7 cups of coffee a day
    have lower rates of diabetes. It becomes obvious why when you consider that people who drink that
    amount of coffee are a different group than those who drink similar amounts of soda. The stats would
    probably show a similar trend if you were to look at those who drink large amounts of water.
    Conversely if you were to look at those who do drink large amounts of soda you would find that they
    are at a higher risk of diabetes than virtually any other group.

    It isn't that coffee lowers the risk of diabetes, it's that not drinking copious amounts of soda
    lowers the risk.

    TC

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