[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 17:00:43 GMT, Mike Vandeman <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> .> .> . .> .> .Why should he prove that you ride horses? If you don't just tell .> us .> so and
>> .we will believe you. It's not a big thing you know and .> nobody .> probably even .cares whether
>> you do or don't. .> .> .> .> The point is that mountain bikers lie all the time, never bothering
>> .> .> to check any of their assertions. .> . .> .Now that is a big lie. I just happen to know one
>> that doesn't
>> lie. .> .> In general, they do, which is what I just said. I have yet to meet .> one that doesn't
>> lie constantly. . . .No you didn't say that they lie in general. You said that they lie all
>> the .time. It is in plain writing still quoted in this post.
>>
>> That's the same thing.
>>
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to
>> help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>>
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
> Mike, my boy, enough of this liar thing, there is no bigger liar than you on this site. The Sierra
> club caught you lying big time and barred you from holding office or ever being a spokesman for
> their organization because on numerous occasions you spewed forth your radical views and
> represented yourself and the your positions as those of the Sierra Club, knowing your were not a
> spokesman and that your views were not shared by the club.
>
> The reason the took action against you is because your lying was damaging the clubs reputation.
> Now that is not harmless lying. Unlike the lying you claim goes on with "all" mountain bikers
> which is mostly harmless and most often just honest mistakes.
>
> Then there is the lie you perpetuate about your being some kind of deep ecologist. What ****, the
> stuff you write on your website is unsubstatiated nonsense. You say you laid under a tree one fine
> day and it felt great. So you suddenly start saying how great it is to be a tree based on your
> feelings of being under it and euphoric. So now you go around hugging trees and trying to save
> whip snakes. Luckily it wasn't rainy and cold when you were under that tree or you would have
> hated trees.
>
> Essentially what you have done is mistaken your feelings for the trees. It's curious that you
> could have so much empathy for a tree when your own personal relations are so poor. I suspect that
> is why you got a minor degree in phycology, so you could figure out why you were different from
> the norm and reconcile that some way.
>
> Instead you have grown up with poor interpersonal skills and quite likely no good friends. Maybe
> you have a few aquiantences but I suspect most of them give you lip service and agree with because
> you are such a bore to listen to when you argue.
>
> Anyway lucky for you the Internet came along so you could invent the field of "Deep Ecology" and
> fool a few people into thinking you had something to say. I bet you never get invited to the same
> conference twice once they figure out they have been had. You must of hated the FAQ that bike
> folks had listed on you at one time because theses same people could find it so easy and realized
> what hack you were.
>
> That brings me to another lie. You have Dr's in Math and a minor, I believe, in Psychology, yet,
> you present this image on the WEB like you are some kind of Enviromental Expert. Obviously this
> ruse doesn't work with the trained enviromentalists and it's easy to see why. It's the old stupid
> people don't know they are stupid syndrome. Your writings on your website lack credibility
> because you work off your own internal logic and don't use facts and figures to support you
> "intuitive" claims.
>
> There is one good thing about you, though, you're more interesting than some of the monosyllabic
> cut and pasters in this forum, who can't seem to put a paragraph together, but then that's not
> saying a lot, is it?
I must say. Your paragraphs are astounding
--
Perre
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