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  1. I know we went through this with Fran recently but I have a slightly
    different take that is worth passing on. My problem isn't the same as
    Fran's I think but the podiatrist I've been to see has seen it
    previously in walkers and particularly skiers.

    The problem manifests itself as severe pain along the underside of all
    the toes - in my case both feet. In an older pair of very comfortable
    BO (hill walking boots) it appears at the end of the day (say 6 hours
    worth) and can only be escaped by stopping and relaxing the feet. As I
    thought that this was a cramp type problem I put it down to the boots
    failing to support the foot adequately and when they started to leak
    recently I bought a pair of B1 classification boots giving the foot
    more support (togther with the fact that the moment I mentioned
    crampons ...but that's another story). Wrong - within 1 1/2 hours
    misery was upon me once again despite what seemed a very comfortable
    fitting boot. I had to stop every half hour after that to allow my
    toes to recover. I've tried other boot combinations - very soft boots
    don't do it; a pair of very stiff boots from the early 70's don't seem
    to do it.

    Anyway the podiatrist says my gait is wrong and one particular nerve
    which affects the toes is being pressurised. Age is one contributor
    (I'm 64) - my feet don't bend as far they should and interestingly
    enough neither do my toes due apparantly to osteoarthritis, and I
    always thought that gave you pain - not this particular pain seemingly.
    The main culprit I'm told is that my calf muscles are too short and I
    need to do exercises to stretch them as my heel lifts too soon in the
    stride. The Berghaus GRW20 GTX boots compounded the fault in that
    they have an upward rocker at the toe and a low heel structure.

    In some ways there is a catch 22 here as I already have orthotics to
    deal with a low arch and effectively deal with pain there; the
    orthotics lift the heel which correspondingly I reckon shortens the
    calf muscle !! Doesn't seem one can win.

    Rob

  2. Rob G said:

    Doesn't seem one can win.

    You've already said that softer boots are OK. I suggest that your
    answer lies there. We tend to get precious sometimes about
    wearing boots in the hills and they're not always the answer. In
    summer I'll often wear just a good pair of walking shoes, dispensing
    with the boots altogether. While this may not seem a good
    strategy for inclement weather the strategic use of say, sealskinz
    socks and a pair of gaiters may allow you to wear softer footwear
    all year 'round. At the end of the day its a choice; only do walks
    where you think softer boots apply or adjust your world view to
    accomodate the fact that soft boots can allow you walk all year
    round if kit yourself out accordingly.

    Chris

  3. Op 11-5-2006, heeft Rob G verondersteld :

    Quoted message said:

    In some ways there is a catch 22 here as I already have orthotics to
    deal with a low arch and effectively deal with pain there; the
    orthotics lift the heel which correspondingly I reckon shortens the
    calf muscle !! Doesn't seem one can win.

    Maybe it's morton's neuroma in a first stage? It was in my case and now
    solved as long as I keep wearing my orthotic footbeds. Your story in
    all details looks like mine. Except for the low arch, but I have a too
    short achilles. New orthotics will do the tric I think, because the
    podiatrist will adjust them to both your problems.

    Maybe the calf muscle isn't getting any longer (unless you practice,
    but I tend to 'forget' to do so), but the stuck nerve will get more
    space, which releaves the (burning) pain.

    --
    Anna.

    http://www.lycaon.nl
    "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future."

  4. Anna - I don't want to raise the bogy of you not reading my mail
    properly but I did quite clearly say that the pain is in all the toes
    and along the underside of them. If you look at this link

    http://www.podiatrychannel.com/mortonneuroma/

    you will see that an MN occurs very typically only between the 3 and
    4th toes due to the structure of the foot at that point.

    I think it would also be pretty remiss of the podiatrist if he hadn't
    investigated an MN as a possibility. What I didn't say in the original
    post because I didn't think it was necessary was that I did have an MN
    in my 20's and had that surgically removed then. - that was due to
    wearing stiff climbing boots that were very narrow - not lady's shoes
    as the surgeon wanted me to say!

    The reason for posting was to report a type of foot pain that a large
    boot store had not met and seemd therefore a little unusual, but which
    does seem to have a distinct cause. The podiatrist confirmed that it
    wasn't common but that he had met on several occasions before,
    particularly amongst skiers.

    Rob

  5. Na rijp beraad schreef Rob G :

    Quoted message said:

    Anna - I don't want to raise the bogy of you not reading my mail
    properly but I did quite clearly say that the pain is in all the toes
    and along the underside of them. If you look at this link

    http://www.podiatrychannel.com/mortonneuroma/

    you will see that an MN occurs very typically only between the 3 and
    4th toes due to the structure of the foot at that point.

    It's most common in that area indeed, but occurs sometimes between
    other toes allso. As in my case for example. Only my right foot
    (because of an achilles injury before that made it shorter), my left is
    typical between third and fourth.

    Quoted message said:

    [...] I did have an MN
    in my 20's and had that surgically removed then.

    Then you'll know the feeling, which doesn't seem to be what your
    suffering from now. I hope it'll get better.

    --
    Anna.

    http://www.lycaon.nl
    "Nimeona mengi, sigutuki."

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