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  1. Yesterday in Canada the 4th ranking Federal Party elected a new leader. Name of Jack Layton....yawn.
    He is a Cyclist, his wife is an active campaigner for bike paths, together they operated the Cycling
    Action committee...to get more rights for cyclists etc. The wife is still a member of Toronto City
    Council, they live in a Co-operative etc., only downside is they are pro-union socialists in a
    nearly dead political party. On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in
    Parliament....too bad he never went bent.
     
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  2. Doug Huffman

    Doug Huffman Guest

    There is no positive side to 'paint & path' or unionism. 'Paint & path' advocates curry favor with
    the motorist by denying our rights 'for our own good' just as unionizers curry favor with the
    proponents of equal-misery 'for our own good.'

    "Joshua Goldberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Yesterday in Canada the 4th ranking Federal Party elected a new leader.
    Name
    > of Jack Layton....yawn. He is a Cyclist, his wife is an active campaigner for bike paths, together
    > they operated the Cycling Action committee...to get more rights for
    cyclists
    > etc. The wife is still a member of Toronto City Council, they live in a Co-operative etc., only
    > downside is they are pro-union socialists in a nearly dead political party. On the more positive
    > side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in Parliament....too bad he never went bent.
     
  3. John Riley

    John Riley Guest

    Joshua Goldberg wrote:

    > On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in Parliament....too bad he
    > never went bent.

    Err... doesn't he have to get elected first? He is head of the party, but he is not an MP.

    John Riley
     
  4. Joshua Goldberg <[email protected]> wrote:
    : Yesterday in Canada the 4th ranking Federal Party elected a new leader. Name of Jack
    : Layton....yawn. He is a Cyclist, his wife is an active campaigner for bike paths, together they
    : operated the Cycling Action committee...to get more rights for cyclists etc. The wife is still a
    : member of Toronto City Council, they live in a Co-operative etc., only downside is they are
    : pro-union socialists in a nearly dead political party.

    Don't give up hope. According to ligfiets.net, most bent riders are socialists:
    http://www.ligfiets.net/enquete/enquete.php3?enquete=41 Ok, it says most are red-green, but the
    previous time I checked there certainly was more socialists!

    --
    Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/ varis at no spam please iki fi
     
  5. John John John Has there (ever) been anyone in Canadian Federal politics who did (not) get elected
    as an MP (after) they became head of their Party? Layton gets to pick any riding he wants (now held
    by the NDP), the current MP steps down and Layton takes over after a quick by-election. I (think) he
    picked the Danforth/Broadview riding.

    "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    > Joshua Goldberg wrote:
    >
    > > On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in Parliament....too bad he
    > > never went bent.
    >
    > Err... doesn't he have to get elected first? He is head of the party, but he is not an MP.
    >
    > John Riley
     
  6. Alpha Beta

    Alpha Beta Guest

    Maybe it is because most bent riders are european? I think I am on the right of the political
    spectum of most people here -- though I would still call myself a liberal. Laissez-faire, liberal
    economics, free-trade, liberal democracy, Adam Smith,
    J.S.Mill liberal.

    But somehow, this is puts me on the right in North American politics and I am called a
    neo-conservative.

    Though I would like to have the choice of riding my bike to work without sucking up lung corrosive
    gases from automobiles. I guess that in being a liberal I will have to accept majority rule even
    when the majority are ignorant of how nice a biking centered society could be. So it is incumbent on
    me to make the majority more enlightened. But how to do that?

    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Joshua Goldberg <[email protected]> wrote:
    > : Yesterday in Canada the 4th ranking Federal Party elected a new leader.
    Name
    > : of Jack Layton....yawn. He is a Cyclist, his wife is an active campaigner for bike paths,
    together
    > : they operated the Cycling Action committee...to get more rights for
    cyclists
    > : etc. The wife is still a member of Toronto City Council, they live in a Co-operative etc., only
    > : downside is they are pro-union socialists in a nearly dead political party.
    >
    > Don't give up hope. According to ligfiets.net, most bent riders are socialists:
    > http://www.ligfiets.net/enquete/enquete.php3?enquete=41 Ok, it says most are red-green, but the
    > previous time I checked there certainly was more socialists!
    >
    > --
    > Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/ varis at no spam please iki fi
     
  7. John Riley

    John Riley Guest

    Joshua Goldberg wrote:
    >
    > John John John Has there (ever) been anyone in Canadian Federal politics who did (not) get elected
    > as an MP (after) they became head of their Party?

    Yeah, but we are talking about the NDP here.

    > Layton gets to pick any riding he wants (now held by the NDP), the current MP steps down and
    > Layton takes over after a quick by-election. I (think) he picked the Danforth/Broadview riding.
    >
    The paper says he will likely run in Toronto-Danforth. Hardly a shoe-in, I'd say. While the MPP
    is NDP, Liberal Dennis Mills has held this seat for quite awhile on the Federal level. What am
    I missing?

    John Riley

    > "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > >
    > > Joshua Goldberg wrote:
    > >
    > > > On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in Parliament....too bad
    > > > he never went bent.
    > >
    > > Err... doesn't he have to get elected first? He is head of the party, but he is not an MP.
    > >
    > > John Riley
     
  8. John Riley

    John Riley Guest

    [email protected] wrote:

    > Don't give up hope. According to ligfiets.net, most bent riders are socialists:
    > http://www.ligfiets.net/enquete/enquete.php3?enquete=41 Ok, it says most are red-green, but the
    > previous time I checked there certainly was more socialists!

    Red-green meet Red Green:

    http://www.redgreen.com/

    (Historical note: Apparently at one time there was a Canadian TV outdoor show called the Red Fisher
    show that was comically bad. I think this was Steve Smith's original inspiration.)

    John Riley
     
  9. I think I meant Toronto-Danforth (has) a strong Pro-NDP following. The riding being Liberal at the
    Federal level was confusing...then again I was a Republican/PC Party member and I saw little
    difference between the Canadian NDP and the Liberal Party. On the Provincial level I knew Bob
    Rae's wife and just to be nice my wife and I voted NDP and the bastards won...damn, we'll never do
    that again.

    Still think Jack Layton would be good for Toronto's Cycling community...in that his wife remains at
    the Municipal level (constantly) pointing out the inadequacies in Toronto re: need for more bike
    paths and fewer parking lots for cars. Her voice may be heard more with Jack in Ottawa..let us hope
    so anyway.

    "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Joshua Goldberg wrote:
    > >
    > > John John John Has there (ever) been anyone in Canadian Federal politics who did (not)
    get
    > > elected as an MP (after) they became head of their Party?
    >
    > Yeah, but we are talking about the NDP here.
    >
    > > Layton gets to pick any riding he wants (now held by the NDP), the
    current
    > > MP steps down and Layton takes over after a quick by-election. I (think) he picked the
    > > Danforth/Broadview riding.
    > >
    > The paper says he will likely run in Toronto-Danforth. Hardly a shoe-in, I'd say. While the MPP is
    > NDP, Liberal Dennis Mills has held this seat for quite awhile on the Federal level. What am I
    > missing?
    >
    > John Riley
    >
    >
    > > "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Joshua Goldberg wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist
    in
    > > > > Parliament....too bad he never went bent.
    > > >
    > > > Err... doesn't he have to get elected first? He is head of the party, but he is not an MP.
    > > >
    > > > John Riley
     
  10. Tom Sherman

    Tom Sherman Guest

    John Riley wrote:
    >
    > Red-green meet Red Green:
    >
    > http://www.redgreen.com/

    Do "Red Green" recumbent cyclists ride bikes made out of stuff found around the house and in the
    garage that are primarily held together with duct tape?

    Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
    Dragonflyer
     
  11. Larry Varney

    Larry Varney Guest

    Tom Sherman wrote:
    > John Riley wrote:
    >
    >>Red-green meet Red Green:
    >>
    >>http://www.redgreen.com/
    >>
    >
    > Do "Red Green" recumbent cyclists ride bikes made out of stuff found around the house and in the
    > garage that are primarily held together with duct tape?
    >
    > Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
    > Dragonflyer
    >

    I always carry a small roll of duct tape with me - it's about the only "tool" I feel competent in
    using! And speaking of Red Green - if you're in the Cincinnati area this Sunday, the local PBS
    station (WCET) is sponsoring a one-time-only showing of his movie, "Duct Tape Forever" at noon at
    Showcase Cinema, Norwood (OH). I'll be there, with my official Possum Lodge suspenders, plaid
    shirt, etc.

    --
    Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
     
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