speaking of Unions

[Joshua Goldberg]

Yesterday in Canada the 4th ranking Federal Party elected a new leader. Name of Jack Layton....yawn.
He is a Cyclist, his wife is an active campaigner for bike paths, together they operated the Cycling
Action committee...to get more rights for cyclists etc. The wife is still a member of Toronto City
Council, they live in a Co-operative etc., only downside is they are pro-union socialists in a
nearly dead political party. On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in
Parliament....too bad he never went bent.

 

[Doug Huffman]

There is no positive side to 'paint & path' or unionism. 'Paint & path' advocates curry favor with
the motorist by denying our rights 'for our own good' just as unionizers curry favor with the
proponents of equal-misery 'for our own good.'

"Joshua Goldberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday in Canada the 4th ranking Federal Party elected a new leader.
Name
> of Jack Layton....yawn. He is a Cyclist, his wife is an active campaigner for bike paths, together
> they operated the Cycling Action committee...to get more rights for
cyclists
> etc. The wife is still a member of Toronto City Council, they live in a Co-operative etc., only
> downside is they are pro-union socialists in a nearly dead political party. On the more positive
> side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in Parliament....too bad he never went bent.

 

[John Riley]

Joshua Goldberg wrote:

> On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in Parliament....too bad he
> never went bent.

Err... doesn't he have to get elected first? He is head of the party, but he is not an MP.

John Riley

 

[Risto Varanka]

Joshua Goldberg <[email protected]> wrote:
: Yesterday in Canada the 4th ranking Federal Party elected a new leader. Name of Jack
: Layton....yawn. He is a Cyclist, his wife is an active campaigner for bike paths, together they
: operated the Cycling Action committee...to get more rights for cyclists etc. The wife is still a
: member of Toronto City Council, they live in a Co-operative etc., only downside is they are
: pro-union socialists in a nearly dead political party.

Don't give up hope. According to ligfiets.net, most bent riders are socialists:
http://www.ligfiets.net/enquete/enquete.php3?enquete=41 Ok, it says most are red-green, but the
previous time I checked there certainly was more socialists!

--
Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/ varis at no spam please iki fi

 

[Joshua Goldberg]

John John John Has there (ever) been anyone in Canadian Federal politics who did (not) get elected
as an MP (after) they became head of their Party? Layton gets to pick any riding he wants (now held
by the NDP), the current MP steps down and Layton takes over after a quick by-election. I (think) he
picked the Danforth/Broadview riding.

"John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Joshua Goldberg wrote:
>
> > On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in Parliament....too bad he
> > never went bent.
>
> Err... doesn't he have to get elected first? He is head of the party, but he is not an MP.
>
> John Riley

 

[Alpha Beta]

Maybe it is because most bent riders are european? I think I am on the right of the political
spectum of most people here -- though I would still call myself a liberal. Laissez-faire, liberal
economics, free-trade, liberal democracy, Adam Smith,
J.S.Mill liberal.

But somehow, this is puts me on the right in North American politics and I am called a
neo-conservative.

Though I would like to have the choice of riding my bike to work without sucking up lung corrosive
gases from automobiles. I guess that in being a liberal I will have to accept majority rule even
when the majority are ignorant of how nice a biking centered society could be. So it is incumbent on
me to make the majority more enlightened. But how to do that?

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Joshua Goldberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> : Yesterday in Canada the 4th ranking Federal Party elected a new leader.
Name
> : of Jack Layton....yawn. He is a Cyclist, his wife is an active campaigner for bike paths,
together
> : they operated the Cycling Action committee...to get more rights for
cyclists
> : etc. The wife is still a member of Toronto City Council, they live in a Co-operative etc., only
> : downside is they are pro-union socialists in a nearly dead political party.
>
> Don't give up hope. According to ligfiets.net, most bent riders are socialists:
> http://www.ligfiets.net/enquete/enquete.php3?enquete=41 Ok, it says most are red-green, but the
> previous time I checked there certainly was more socialists!
>
> --
> Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/ varis at no spam please iki fi

 

[John Riley]

Joshua Goldberg wrote:
>
> John John John Has there (ever) been anyone in Canadian Federal politics who did (not) get elected
> as an MP (after) they became head of their Party?

Yeah, but we are talking about the NDP here.

> Layton gets to pick any riding he wants (now held by the NDP), the current MP steps down and
> Layton takes over after a quick by-election. I (think) he picked the Danforth/Broadview riding.
>
The paper says he will likely run in Toronto-Danforth. Hardly a shoe-in, I'd say. While the MPP
is NDP, Liberal Dennis Mills has held this seat for quite awhile on the Federal level. What am
I missing?

John Riley

> "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > Joshua Goldberg wrote:
> >
> > > On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist in Parliament....too bad
> > > he never went bent.
> >
> > Err... doesn't he have to get elected first? He is head of the party, but he is not an MP.
> >
> > John Riley

 

[John Riley]

[email protected] wrote:

> Don't give up hope. According to ligfiets.net, most bent riders are socialists:
> http://www.ligfiets.net/enquete/enquete.php3?enquete=41 Ok, it says most are red-green, but the
> previous time I checked there certainly was more socialists!

Red-green meet Red Green:

http://www.redgreen.com/

(Historical note: Apparently at one time there was a Canadian TV outdoor show called the Red Fisher
show that was comically bad. I think this was Steve Smith's original inspiration.)

John Riley

 

[Joshua Goldberg]

I think I meant Toronto-Danforth (has) a strong Pro-NDP following. The riding being Liberal at the
Federal level was confusing...then again I was a Republican/PC Party member and I saw little
difference between the Canadian NDP and the Liberal Party. On the Provincial level I knew Bob
Rae's wife and just to be nice my wife and I voted NDP and the bastards won...damn, we'll never do
that again.

Still think Jack Layton would be good for Toronto's Cycling community...in that his wife remains at
the Municipal level (constantly) pointing out the inadequacies in Toronto re: need for more bike
paths and fewer parking lots for cars. Her voice may be heard more with Jack in Ottawa..let us hope
so anyway.

"John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Joshua Goldberg wrote:
> >
> > John John John Has there (ever) been anyone in Canadian Federal politics who did (not)
get
> > elected as an MP (after) they became head of their Party?
>
> Yeah, but we are talking about the NDP here.
>
> > Layton gets to pick any riding he wants (now held by the NDP), the
current
> > MP steps down and Layton takes over after a quick by-election. I (think) he picked the
> > Danforth/Broadview riding.
> >
> The paper says he will likely run in Toronto-Danforth. Hardly a shoe-in, I'd say. While the MPP is
> NDP, Liberal Dennis Mills has held this seat for quite awhile on the Federal level. What am I
> missing?
>
> John Riley
>
>
> > "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > >
> > > Joshua Goldberg wrote:
> > >
> > > > On the more positive side though, there will now be an avid cyclist
in
> > > > Parliament....too bad he never went bent.
> > >
> > > Err... doesn't he have to get elected first? He is head of the party, but he is not an MP.
> > >
> > > John Riley

 

[Tom Sherman]

John Riley wrote:
>
> Red-green meet Red Green:
>
> http://www.redgreen.com/

Do "Red Green" recumbent cyclists ride bikes made out of stuff found around the house and in the
garage that are primarily held together with duct tape?

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
Dragonflyer

 

[Larry Varney]

Tom Sherman wrote:
> John Riley wrote:
>
>>Red-green meet Red Green:
>>
>>http://www.redgreen.com/
>>
>
> Do "Red Green" recumbent cyclists ride bikes made out of stuff found around the house and in the
> garage that are primarily held together with duct tape?
>
> Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
> Dragonflyer
>

I always carry a small roll of duct tape with me - it's about the only "tool" I feel competent in
using! And speaking of Red Green - if you're in the Cincinnati area this Sunday, the local PBS
station (WCET) is sponsoring a one-time-only showing of his movie, "Duct Tape Forever" at noon at
Showcase Cinema, Norwood (OH). I'll be there, with my official Possum Lodge suspenders, plaid
shirt, etc.

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Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney