Specialized frame broken near dropout- can it be fixed?

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i'd bet good FL that the dropout can be filed wider, welded shut, and
sided with two DIY steel plates screwed together thru the welded
dropout
and allez would LHEA!

 

[Dave Reckoning]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> sure why not. if you buy a dropout, put a rod in it ,slide the rod
> into the chainstay, have the chainstay sawn down the side, then clamp
> pound and weld everfything together, that should go on for ...? next
> thursday? who knows? it depends on the welder. does he like you? does
> he like anyone? is he an ax killer?
> if you do the the wrok and the welder does the welding then the costs
> go fairly low if the welder's not an ax killer. costs come in when you
> walkin and ask the ax killer errr welder to do desing and fabrication.
> bring in a coupla cans of cold Fosters. COLD.
>

At first glance this might seem an odd response, axe killers and all.
Actually there is a lot of evidence to link welding to axe killing.

See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/shropshire/6177394.stm

Dave Reckoning
Noblesville, Indiana

 

[David L. Johnson]

al77 wrote:

> The frame was an ebay buy for £120 & it's maddening to think the
> seller may not have been honest about the condition / history of the
> bike. It must've had some impact in the past to weaken that area?

It doesn't have to have had an impact; it looks like a fatigue crack to
me. Not, by the way, a new one; the broken edges seem to be corroded.

Most people could not weld this. It is aluminum. Anyone who could
would probably charge much more for the work than you paid for it,
especially considering that it would need to be re-painted.

I would complain to the seller, and to e-bay. He probably knew that it
was cracked. But if that does not work, oh well. Don't bother trying
to fix it; it's not worth it. Speaking of which you paid a hefty price
for a used aluminum frame to begin with. Check out the prices you can
get new for comparable equipment before you buy from e-bay. For one,
Nashbar road frames start at $124.95.

--

David L. Johnson

Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
You soon find out the pig likes it!

 

[A Muzi]

> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> sure why not. if you buy a dropout, put a rod in it ,slide the rod
>> into the chainstay, have the chainstay sawn down the side, then clamp
>> pound and weld everfything together, that should go on for ...? next
>> thursday? who knows? it depends on the welder. does he like you? does
>> he like anyone? is he an ax killer?
>> if you do the the wrok and the welder does the welding then the costs
>> go fairly low if the welder's not an ax killer. costs come in when you
>> walkin and ask the ax killer errr welder to do desing and fabrication.
>> bring in a coupla cans of cold Fosters. COLD.

Dave Reckoning wrote:
> At first glance this might seem an odd response, axe killers and all.
> Actually there is a lot of evidence to link welding to axe killing.
> See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/shropshire/6177394.stm

Hmmm. Good thing he was a welder!

"She suffered serious injuries but survived. The axe head fell off after
the second blow."

A real woodcutter would've probably kept it in better repair. We welders
aren't as adept with those little wedgie things.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

 

[[email protected]]

AHH TOO MUCH WELDING! remember? you a. muzi are Local Bike Shop or
parsec 1 bike shop.
the focus was or is: welder's are a varied lot, produce uneven work at
best, good welders are hard to find, some welders are psyhco killers,
and all in rod, its best to try very hard to be charming, intelligent,
respectful, and cooperative when confronting welders. The arc blows
their nervous systems out.

listen, when you file out, solder with bernz rod, and fix steel
dropout sides, bolt the sides together with 3-4 #6 bolts, drill holes
in the plates, small holes, and cover the solder aluminum dropout with
cold epoxy soas to get the epoxy into the small holes. let cure and
paint for waterproofing.

nothing to loose on it, right? might learn something. yeah, unscrew
the torch from the map gas. sometimes the knob turns shut but the
flame keeps burning.

 

[A Muzi]

[email protected] wrote:
> AHH TOO MUCH WELDING! remember? you a. muzi are Local Bike Shop or
> parsec 1 bike shop.
> the focus was or is: welder's are a varied lot, produce uneven work at
> best, good welders are hard to find, some welders are psyhco killers,
> and all in rod, its best to try very hard to be charming, intelligent,
> respectful, and cooperative when confronting welders. The arc blows
> their nervous systems out.
>
> listen, when you file out, solder with bernz rod, and fix steel
> dropout sides, bolt the sides together with 3-4 #6 bolts, drill holes
> in the plates, small holes, and cover the solder aluminum dropout with
> cold epoxy soas to get the epoxy into the small holes. let cure and
> paint for waterproofing.
>
> nothing to loose on it, right? might learn something. yeah, unscrew
> the torch from the map gas. sometimes the knob turns shut but the
> flame keeps burning.

Uh, right. Be sure to report back on that aluminum frame project.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

 

[[email protected]]

well, all of us, well most of us*, feel your pain on this. the allez
could be in the category of a high milage lotus. perhaps a volvo next
time? steel is realler. on the other hand, i haven't seen any broken
frame walmart bikes in the dumpster but wal's tube is heavier.

 

[Michael Press]

In article
<[email protected]>,
"Dave Reckoning" <[email protected]> wrote:

> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > sure why not. if you buy a dropout, put a rod in it ,slide the rod
> > into the chainstay, have the chainstay sawn down the side, then clamp
> > pound and weld everfything together, that should go on for ...? next
> > thursday? who knows? it depends on the welder. does he like you? does
> > he like anyone? is he an ax killer?
> > if you do the the wrok and the welder does the welding then the costs
> > go fairly low if the welder's not an ax killer. costs come in when you
> > walkin and ask the ax killer errr welder to do desing and fabrication.
> > bring in a coupla cans of cold Fosters. COLD.
> >
>
> At first glance this might seem an odd response, axe killers and all.
> Actually there is a lot of evidence to link welding to axe killing.
>
> See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/shropshire/6177394.stm

Diminished capacity? He remains capable of murdering with an axe.
--
Michael Press