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Trevor Barton
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On 21 Feb 2004 16:40:41 GMT, dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
> See
>
> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/Content/News/story.asp?datetime=21+Feb+2004
> +11%3A28&tbrand=ENOnline&tCategory=NEWS&category=News&brand=ENOnline&itemi
> d=NOED21+Feb+2004+11%3A28%3A48%3A113
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2mngt
>
> "Danger warning to speeding cyclists
I've read most of this thread and frankly I've rarely been as unimpressed by the hypocrisy of some
of the views here. Somehow it's acceptable to exceed the speed limits or ride drunk, if you're on a
bike, but not so if you're in a car? How? If you run into a pedestrian at 35mph on a bike you may
indeed not be *as likely* to kill or seriously injure them as you are in a car, but you are
*likely* to. The only saving grace is that you are just as *likely* to do the same to yourself in
the process.
How can you people pretend to assume the moral high ground, as many of you do when it comes to using
the road, when you display these sorts of attitudes? Of course, there is no direct *law* that says
you can't speed on a bike, but how does that make it right? There may be relatively few KSI as a
result of being on the pedestrian end of a bike, but then there are relatively few bikes. How can
some of you argue with the next tosspot or Smith from u.r.t than comes on here arguing that there
should be less speed cameras when you lot seem to think it's a game to try to set them off, just
because you can't be prosecuted?? What you *are* doing is reinforcing that argument that speed
cameras are only there to restrict the freedom of motorists to drive at whatever speed they like -
because they don't apply to you, you feel you have the right to cycle at any speed you like.
Quite frankly, all you lot are doing is reinforcing any arguments anyone might have for legislating
on bikes. There is absolutely no reason, technical or otherwise, that bikes and bike riding can't be
subject to the same set of (speed, drink-riding) laws as motorised traffic and drivers. There is
already plenty of legislation - it would take only a small change to require all new bikes to have a
fitted, functional, properly calibrated speedo, and be required to use it.
--
Trevor Barton
> See
>
> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/Content/News/story.asp?datetime=21+Feb+2004
> +11%3A28&tbrand=ENOnline&tCategory=NEWS&category=News&brand=ENOnline&itemi
> d=NOED21+Feb+2004+11%3A28%3A48%3A113
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2mngt
>
> "Danger warning to speeding cyclists
I've read most of this thread and frankly I've rarely been as unimpressed by the hypocrisy of some
of the views here. Somehow it's acceptable to exceed the speed limits or ride drunk, if you're on a
bike, but not so if you're in a car? How? If you run into a pedestrian at 35mph on a bike you may
indeed not be *as likely* to kill or seriously injure them as you are in a car, but you are
*likely* to. The only saving grace is that you are just as *likely* to do the same to yourself in
the process.
How can you people pretend to assume the moral high ground, as many of you do when it comes to using
the road, when you display these sorts of attitudes? Of course, there is no direct *law* that says
you can't speed on a bike, but how does that make it right? There may be relatively few KSI as a
result of being on the pedestrian end of a bike, but then there are relatively few bikes. How can
some of you argue with the next tosspot or Smith from u.r.t than comes on here arguing that there
should be less speed cameras when you lot seem to think it's a game to try to set them off, just
because you can't be prosecuted?? What you *are* doing is reinforcing that argument that speed
cameras are only there to restrict the freedom of motorists to drive at whatever speed they like -
because they don't apply to you, you feel you have the right to cycle at any speed you like.
Quite frankly, all you lot are doing is reinforcing any arguments anyone might have for legislating
on bikes. There is absolutely no reason, technical or otherwise, that bikes and bike riding can't be
subject to the same set of (speed, drink-riding) laws as motorised traffic and drivers. There is
already plenty of legislation - it would take only a small change to require all new bikes to have a
fitted, functional, properly calibrated speedo, and be required to use it.
--
Trevor Barton
