Sports drinks

[Zilla]

Sorry if this has been asked..

But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
for replenishing body fluids and salts?

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[mrbubl]

Zilla wrote:
> Sorry if this has been asked..
>
> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>
used to cramp up BAD post ride and switched to Cytomax and that elimated
the cramp problem for me. Know of other people that had enjoyed the
same benefit. The nice thing is you can buy individual size packets to
try. I like cool citrus & tropical punch not too keen on orange or
apple. As always, YMMV.

 

[David N. Makinson]

Zilla wrote:
> Sorry if this has been asked..
>
> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>
For me, the Accelerade is much better than Gatorade. My last few
centuries I have ridden almost exclusively with it (almost no other food
or drink). I did a 3 day charity ride (total 285 miles) The 3rd day
was a fairly flat century which I completed in just over 5 hrs, 40 miles
of which I rode alone. So I feel that the claims of next day
performance are justified.

It doesn't bother my stomach, but I do get lots of gas and loose bowels
next day... to me it is worth it. It may not bother you that way.

Also, I purchase through Vigorousliving . com and pay much less than I
see it advertised other places.

I mix as recommended.

David

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:11:53 -0400, "Zilla"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Sorry if this has been asked..
>
>But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
>work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
>for replenishing body fluids and salts?

The most important thing is taste -- liking what you have so you get
it down. Accelerade has a little protein or amino acids in it, so
it's a little different -- try it.

I'll drink any of a bunch of sports drinks and don't think there are
big diffences between them *but* find that most of them could use more
salt. So for me, I either add salt to them in warm weather
(especially Morton's Lite Salt, which has potassium in addition to
sodium) or else I drink Gatorade Endurance formula, which is
extra-salty.

JT


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[RonSonic]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:11:53 -0400, "Zilla" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Sorry if this has been asked..
>
>But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
>work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
>for replenishing body fluids and salts?

Gatorade is a tooth-rotting, gut-corroding fraud with way too much sugar and
abjectly deficient electrolytes. Scarcely better than soda pop.

It is better than nothing if you alternate between it and water as you go. Much
improved if you cut it to half or third strength and add sodium and potassium
salts. By then you could've bought and mixed something well designed.

Ron

 

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Zilla wrote:
> Sorry if this has been asked..
>
> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>
> --
> - Zilla
> Cary, NC USA
> (Remove XSPAM)

Pretty much anything works for replenishing body fluids (water) if you
drink it. I've heard of studies where Gatorade is better than water
because people drink more of it because it tastes better than plain
water. All of the electrolytes and such isn't terribly important in
the vast majority of cases. Just eat regular food after the ride and
you will be fine. And drink the sport drink you like the taste of best.

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:19:23 GMT, RonSonic <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>Gatorade is a tooth-rotting, gut-corroding fraud with way too much sugar and
>abjectly deficient electrolytes. Scarcely better than soda pop.
Except soda tastes way too sweet for most people, and is carbonated.

>It is better than nothing if you alternate between it and water as you go. Much
>improved if you cut it to half or third strength

Why cut it?

JT

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[Marian]

Zilla wrote:
> Sorry if this has been asked..
>
> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
> for replenishing body fluids and salts?

Coconuts. The reddish brown ones fresh off the tree _or_ the big green
ones when they've been refrigerated. The green ones taste kind of
fizzy when they're warm.

After drinking, open with cleaver and sprinkle salt on the coconut meat
before eating. Most places where you can get coconuts will have their
own cleaver, but it is wise to carry your own metal spoon for getting
at the flesh...

-M

 

[Barnard Frederick]

Zilla says...

> Sorry if this has been asked..
>
> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
> for replenishing body fluids and salts?

I'm using Cliff Shot now since I found some on sale. Won't be going
back to Gatorade. It may be better than Kool-aid, but not by much.

 

[Peter Cole]

Zilla wrote:
> Sorry if this has been asked..
>
> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>

I think they're all ****. I'd rather drink water and eat real food.

 

[[email protected]]

Peter Cole <[email protected]> wrote:

> > But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
> > work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
> > for replenishing body fluids and salts?
> >
>
> I think they're all ****. I'd rather drink water and eat real food.

You'll note that the scientific studies used for marketing *never*
compare sport drinks to that combo...it would be embarassing. But eating
food/gels with carbo drinks actually leads to dehydration.

BTW Gatorade now makes an Endurance formula in addition to the original
hyrdation formula. It's interesting that, of the major brands, Gatorade
has much more research available (http://www.gssiweb.com/)

A handy comparison chart:
http://gssiweb.com/pdf/gatorade_bev_chart.pdf

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:55:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Peter Cole <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
>> > work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
>> > for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>> >
>>
>> I think they're all ****. I'd rather drink water and eat real food.
>
>You'll note that the scientific studies used for marketing *never*
>compare sport drinks to that combo...it would be embarassing.

For riding at low to moderate intensity, food and water can work fine.
For higher intensities, getting calories in liquid form is often
easier.

For me, I'll drink more if I'm drinking something sweet and salty.

>But eating
>food/gels with carbo drinks actually
>leads to dehydration.

It can, but that isn't a necessary event.

JT

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[Mike Jacoubowsky]

>> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
>> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
>> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>>
> used to cramp up BAD post ride and switched to Cytomax and that elimated
> the cramp problem for me. Know of other people that had enjoyed the same
> benefit. The nice thing is you can buy individual size packets to try. I
> like cool citrus & tropical punch not too keen on orange or apple. As
> always, YMMV.

I'm in the same camp... drink enough Cytomax, zero cramping. I actually have
to be careful on organized rides to not drink the usual watered-down
lemonade or gatorade, since it means I'll be drinking less Cytomax and far
more likely to cramp. I can't tell you how or why it works; I just know
that, for me, it's the most amazing stuff I've come across for longer rides.

One other interesting thing about Cytomax- the various flavors have
dramatically-different textures and taste, so much so that you really
wouldn't think they're the same product. So the person who's tried a flavor
or two of Cytomax and didn't like it, might find they gave up too soon. For
me, my new favorite is Cranberry-Grapefruit, followed by Orange, Pink
Lemonade and further down Cool Citrus. The others, I just don't care for at
all; if those had been my first exposure to the stuff, I probably would have
written it off.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

 

[Peter Cole]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
>>> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
>>> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>>>
>> used to cramp up BAD post ride and switched to Cytomax and that elimated
>> the cramp problem for me. Know of other people that had enjoyed the same
>> benefit. The nice thing is you can buy individual size packets to try. I
>> like cool citrus & tropical punch not too keen on orange or apple. As
>> always, YMMV.
>
> I'm in the same camp... drink enough Cytomax, zero cramping. I actually have
> to be careful on organized rides to not drink the usual watered-down
> lemonade or gatorade, since it means I'll be drinking less Cytomax and far
> more likely to cramp. I can't tell you how or why it works; I just know
> that, for me, it's the most amazing stuff I've come across for longer rides.

Interesting, but the Cytomax makers don't claim cramp avoidance, nor
does any of the medical literature indicate the possibility of
anti-cramping formulas. I know, I've researched it to death. I also
worked my way through most of a big (5lb?) tub of Cytomax -- no
different than Kool-aid, as far as I could find, but it was much more
expensive and tasted pretty crappy.

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:34:50 -0400, Peter Cole
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
>>>> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
>>>> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>>>>
>>> used to cramp up BAD post ride and switched to Cytomax and that elimated
>>> the cramp problem for me. Know of other people that had enjoyed the same
>>> benefit. The nice thing is you can buy individual size packets to try. I
>>> like cool citrus & tropical punch not too keen on orange or apple. As
>>> always, YMMV.
>>
>> I'm in the same camp... drink enough Cytomax, zero cramping. I actually have
>> to be careful on organized rides to not drink the usual watered-down
>> lemonade or gatorade, since it means I'll be drinking less Cytomax and far
>> more likely to cramp. I can't tell you how or why it works; I just know
>> that, for me, it's the most amazing stuff I've come across for longer rides.
>
>Interesting, but the Cytomax makers don't claim cramp avoidance, nor
>does any of the medical literature indicate the possibility of
>anti-cramping formulas. I know, I've researched it to death.

What I've read is that in warm weather and long rides, electrolytes
help prevent cramping. If you're eating salty food at the same time,
or your diet in general is high in salt, then salt in the drink isn't
useful. But if you're not, the salts help. Salts in drinks also tend
to make people drink more, which is a big bonus if they otherwise
wouldn't drink enough.

>I also
>worked my way through most of a big (5lb?) tub of Cytomax -- no
>different than Kool-aid, as far as I could find, but it was much more
>expensive and tasted pretty crappy.

I've ridden on Kool-Aid and fruit juices, but usally add salt to them
if the weather is warm and I'm riding far or hard.

JT

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[John Forrest Tomlinson]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
>>> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
>>> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>>>
>> used to cramp up BAD post ride and switched to Cytomax and that elimated
>> the cramp problem for me. Know of other people that had enjoyed the same
>> benefit. The nice thing is you can buy individual size packets to try. I
>> like cool citrus & tropical punch not too keen on orange or apple. As
>> always, YMMV.
>
> I'm in the same camp... drink enough Cytomax, zero cramping. I actually have
> to be careful on organized rides to not drink the usual watered-down
> lemonade or gatorade, since it means I'll be drinking less Cytomax and far
> more likely to cramp. I can't tell you how or why it works; I just know
> that, for me, it's the most amazing stuff I've come across for longer rides.

If you want to work around this, take some electrolyte tablets with
you. Or if the ride is less than several hour, just eat some prior to
the event. You'll be able to drink other drinks with no problems.

JT

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[mrbubl]

Peter Cole wrote:
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>> But do Cytomax and Accelerade, among others
>>>> work as advertised, or is Gatorade just as good
>>>> for replenishing body fluids and salts?
>>>>
>>> used to cramp up BAD post ride and switched to Cytomax and that
>>> elimated the cramp problem for me. Know of other people that had
>>> enjoyed the same benefit. The nice thing is you can buy individual
>>> size packets to try. I like cool citrus & tropical punch not too
>>> keen on orange or apple. As always, YMMV.
>>
>> I'm in the same camp... drink enough Cytomax, zero cramping. I
>> actually have to be careful on organized rides to not drink the usual
>> watered-down lemonade or gatorade, since it means I'll be drinking
>> less Cytomax and far more likely to cramp. I can't tell you how or why
>> it works; I just know that, for me, it's the most amazing stuff I've
>> come across for longer rides.
>
> Interesting, but the Cytomax makers don't claim cramp avoidance, nor
> does any of the medical literature indicate the possibility of
> anti-cramping formulas. I know, I've researched it to death. I also
> worked my way through most of a big (5lb?) tub of Cytomax -- no
> different than Kool-aid, as far as I could find, but it was much more
> expensive and tasted pretty crappy.

My understanding is that Cytomax has a lactic acid buffering component
that helps for during and post ride effect. In my case, after the ride
I would back off on the fluids (my mistake) and was in a hydration
deficit evidenced by urine color being concentrated rather than clear
indicating proper hydration and playing catch up ball.

At any rate, worked for me better than ultra fuel and others and solved
a problem for me and made me a believer....

 

[Mike DeMicco]

mrbubl <[email protected]> wrote in news:Ozelg.7402$lf4.3025
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

> My understanding is that Cytomax has a lactic acid buffering component
> that helps for during and post ride effect. In my case, after the ride
> I would back off on the fluids (my mistake) and was in a hydration
> deficit evidenced by urine color being concentrated rather than clear
> indicating proper hydration and playing catch up ball.
>
> At any rate, worked for me better than ultra fuel and others and solved
> a problem for me and made me a believer....

I get stomach problems caused by excess stomach acid. Tums and similar
products provide a temporarily relief. The acid buffering in Cytomax helps as
well. A lot of riders suffer from stomach problem on long rides. Cytomax
works best for me.

--
Mike DeMicco <[email protected]>

 

[Frank Drackman]

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:e%[email protected]...
> I'm in the same camp... drink enough Cytomax, zero cramping. I actually
> have to be careful on organized rides to not drink the usual watered-down
> lemonade or gatorade, since it means I'll be drinking less Cytomax and far
> more likely to cramp. I can't tell you how or why it works; I just know
> that, for me, it's the most amazing stuff I've come across for longer
> rides.
>

Do you bring extra power for long rides? I have been using Gatorade because
I can find it most anywhere I ride.