Got a 1/2 assembled LOOK 585 today to install the Sram Red group onto..few observations. I'll preface it with it's a nice group, works well....cuz this is gonna sound kinda negative.
-carbon shifter lever clamps. That's right, the clamps that hold the lever onto the hbar are carbon. They scream 'break me' and will do that first time bike falls over.
-'alternative' cable housing routing. Sram figured out how to alolow for front of bar or behind bar der houysing routing. GOOD, but for the inside, the angle for the hole in the lever cants inward from the lever making the bend to follow the hbar really severe and mostly not possible with tight bend bars like Ritchey or Easton
-came with really crappy and draggy 4mm housing which we swapped right away for 5mm and brass(rather than plastic) ferrules.
-probably the most finnicky FD I have seen for awhile. Lots of up/down, in/out, pitch in/out till it didn't either throw it one side or another, rub or just not shift. I wonder if the titanium cage might be too flexy.
-Brakes look cheap, like Tektros.
-It works, but unlike the IMMENSE hype by mags and such, it pretty much feels and works like Force and Rival. Reach adjust for the levers is nice but like shimano R600, reduces lever travel for braking.
-Overall with all the stripes and 'RED" all over it, don't really like the looks, think it's kinda 'hoodie'. I think for function and price, Record or DA still rank 1-2. It's light but Record is 35 grams heavier, both less than 2000 grams. Is it worth the $$, donno.
Nice to see a competitor for Campagnolo and shimano..keeps 'em honest.
Just my opinion, of course, take it or leave it.
-carbon shifter lever clamps. That's right, the clamps that hold the lever onto the hbar are carbon. They scream 'break me' and will do that first time bike falls over.
-'alternative' cable housing routing. Sram figured out how to alolow for front of bar or behind bar der houysing routing. GOOD, but for the inside, the angle for the hole in the lever cants inward from the lever making the bend to follow the hbar really severe and mostly not possible with tight bend bars like Ritchey or Easton
-came with really crappy and draggy 4mm housing which we swapped right away for 5mm and brass(rather than plastic) ferrules.
-probably the most finnicky FD I have seen for awhile. Lots of up/down, in/out, pitch in/out till it didn't either throw it one side or another, rub or just not shift. I wonder if the titanium cage might be too flexy.
-Brakes look cheap, like Tektros.
-It works, but unlike the IMMENSE hype by mags and such, it pretty much feels and works like Force and Rival. Reach adjust for the levers is nice but like shimano R600, reduces lever travel for braking.
-Overall with all the stripes and 'RED" all over it, don't really like the looks, think it's kinda 'hoodie'. I think for function and price, Record or DA still rank 1-2. It's light but Record is 35 grams heavier, both less than 2000 grams. Is it worth the $$, donno.
Nice to see a competitor for Campagnolo and shimano..keeps 'em honest.
Just my opinion, of course, take it or leave it.