Sram Trigger shifters



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Rick Onanian

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A couple posts in the ShimaNO threads mentioned Sram Trigger shifters.

I can't find them on Sram's website.

Anybody have any experience with these? I love my cheapo Shimano Acera combined brake / shifters
on my MTB, 7 speed from 1997; they are very comfortable to use, and are tough as nails (none of
those silly plastic-window with a needle gear indicators; just a metal dial that shows gear
against a notch).

While I don't expect to change them anytime soon, I would like to be familiar with this option. I've
always been completely uninterested in Sram due to the fact that I seriously dislike grip
shift...not to say that I would rule out sram parts aside from shifters.

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Sheldon Brown

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Rick Onanian wrote:
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> A couple posts in the ShimaNO threads mentioned Sram Trigger shifters.
>
> I can't find them on Sram's website.
>
> Anybody have any experience with these? I love my cheapo Shimano Acera combined brake / shifters
> on my MTB, 7 speed from 1997; they are very comfortable to use, and are tough as nails (none of
> those silly plastic-window with a needle gear indicators; just a metal dial that shows gear
> against a notch).
>
> While I don't expect to change them anytime soon, I would like to be familiar with this option.
> I've always been completely uninterested in Sram due to the fact that I seriously dislike grip
> shift...not to say that I would rule out sram parts aside from shifters.

See: http://harriscyclery.net/site/page.cfm?PageID=49&Category=2398

Note that the "ESP" models only work with Sram ESP derailers, though they'll probably also work with
antique Benelux stuff if you're crazy enough to try...

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Rick Onanian

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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:55:22 -0400, Sheldon Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> See: http://harriscyclery.net/site/page.cfm?PageID=49&Category=2398

They look nice enough. My concern about the plastic, outboard gear-indicator-window on some Shimano
shifters initially appears to apply here, but on closer inspection, it appears to be in a safe place
where it won't take a hit during an accident.

> Note that the "ESP" models only work with Sram ESP derailers, though

There's another thing I couldn't find on Sram's site. What is the nature of Sram's "ESP" system?

> they'll probably also work with antique Benelux stuff if you're crazy enough to try...

You'd also have to be crazy enough to have thought of applying a modern shifter to "antique Benelux
stuff", which I've never heard of and don't know why somebody would do it. ;)

> Sheldon "Triggers" Brown +--------------------------------------------+
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Russ Price

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Rick Onanian <[email protected]> wrote:
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> There's another thing I couldn't find on Sram's site. What is the nature of Sram's "ESP" system?
>

The issue is "actuation ratio" - that is, how far the derailleur travels for a given amount of
cable travel. Shimano uses a 1:2 ratio - the cage moves 2 mm for each 1 mm of cable travel; SRAM
ESP uses 1:1.

FWIW, the ESP 7.0 group that came on my recumbent has worked very well for me. Once broken in, I've
never had to readjust it.

Russ

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Werehatrack

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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:39:47 -0400, Rick Onanian <[email protected]> may have said:

>A true geek feeling. I can't imagine life without recursive acronyms. GNU == Gnu's Not
>Unix...etc...

Some jobs are also recursive. First you curse, then you recurse.

As for truly silly acronyms that get self-referential in strange ways...

http://www.instantattitudes.com/gifs/bs309.gif

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Ted Bennett

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Rick Onanian <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Sheldon "Triggers" Brown +--------------------------------------------+
> > | In order to understand recursion, | first, you have to understand recursion. |
> > +--------------------------------------------+
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> A true geek feeling. I can't imagine life without recursive acronyms. GNU == Gnu's Not
> Unix...etc...

Sheldon's quote should be attributed to the Random Shack Dictionary.

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B. Sanders

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"Sheldon Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rick Onanian wrote:
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> > A couple posts in the ShimaNO threads mentioned Sram Trigger shifters.

> > While I don't expect to change them anytime soon, I would like to be familiar with this option.
> > I've always been completely uninterested in Sram due to the fact that I seriously dislike grip
> > shift...

Grip shifts work well on hybrids, comfort bikes and recumbents, where you're not putting so much of
your weight on the bars. They're quite reliable, actually, and have positive shifting action.
Compared to the vague too-light shifting action of Shimano RapidFail shifters, I'll take GripShift
any day. For reliability and pure functionality, they're hard to beat.

> See: http://harriscyclery.net/site/page.cfm?PageID=49&Category=2398

JensonUSA carries the Shimano-compatible 2004 SRAM Attack 9-speed trigger shifters. They're supposed
to arrive today (Aug 15).

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/dept/shifters.asp

These are 100% compatible with Shimano 9-speed rear derailleurs. Reviews thus far have been
positive. I'd like to see Shimano have some serious competition. Their shifter quality has been
dropping by degrees in the past decade.

-Barry "Where are the 9-speed thumbshifters?" Sanders
 
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