I was toying with the idea of getting a whole Sram Red group for my Cervelo P3C and was wondering if Shimano bar end shifters will work with the Sram. It would save me the trouble of buying the Sram bar ends which are a couple hundred bucks.
Peter Verdesi said:I was toying with the idea of getting a whole Sram Red group for my Cervelo P3C and was wondering if Shimano bar end shifters will work with the Sram. It would save me the trouble of buying the Sram bar ends which are a couple hundred bucks.
If you're going to use bar-ends, then why are you bothering to consider putting SRAM's Red components on your bike?Peter Verdesi said:Darn!!!
I suppose that's a valid question. I really like the 11/26 gearing that Sram put out. I live in a hilly area and like the 26 for climbing the really steep stuff but I like the 11 for the down hill. I wish Shimano would come out with similar gearing (I've seen some custom stuff out there but I lack the technical expertise to put an 11/25 Shimano cassette together). That being said I bought a whole red group for about 1350 bucks and I'm going to resell the double taps cause I don't need them. Plus I get some serious bling points for having the Red stuff. I'll post a picture when I'm done doing the build in a couple of days.alfeng said:If you're going to use bar-ends, then why are you bothering to consider putting SRAM's Red components on your bike?
That is, if you aren't putting the double-tap shifters on your bike, what's the point OTHER than cosmetics AND/OR conspicuous consumption?
$1350 is a lot to pay for one extra freewheel tooth.Peter Verdesi said:I really like the 11/26 gearing that Sram put out. I live in a hilly area and like the 26 for climbing the really steep stuff but I like the 11 for the down hill.
Peter Verdesi said:I suppose that's a valid question. I really like the 11/26 gearing that Sram put out. I live in a hilly area and like the 26 for climbing the really steep stuff but I like the 11 for the down hill. I wish Shimano would come out with similar gearing (I've seen some custom stuff out there but I lack the technical expertise to put an 11/25 Shimano cassette together). That being said I bought a whole red group for about 1350 bucks and I'm going to resell the double taps cause I don't need them. Plus I get some serious bling points for having the Red stuff. I'll post a picture when I'm done doing the build in a couple of days.
OR, couldn't the Shimano 12-27 10-speed cassette be restacked without the 16t (for example) but with new 11t & 12t cogs?Peter@vecchios said:shimano makes a 11-25/10s cogset-...
I have an old 12-23 eight speed and substituted the 12 with a 11. So maybe the 12-27 could be converted to 11-27.alfeng said:OR, couldn't the Shimano 12-27 10-speed cassette be restacked without the 16t (for example) but with new 11t & 12t cogs?
OR, is Shimano already supplying an 11-27 10-speed combination?!?
I still don't understand. SRAM makes inexpensive, but good 11-26 cassettes in 9 and 10 speed. Why do you need an entire expensive group if all you want is the $40 cassette?Peter Verdesi said:I suppose that's a valid question. I really like the 11/26 gearing that Sram put out. I live in a hilly area and like the 26 for climbing the really steep stuff but I like the 11 for the down hill. I wish Shimano would come out with similar gearing (I've seen some custom stuff out there but I lack the technical expertise to put an 11/25 Shimano cassette together). That being said I bought a whole red group for about 1350 bucks and I'm going to resell the double taps cause I don't need them. Plus I get some serious bling points for having the Red stuff. I'll post a picture when I'm done doing the build in a couple of days.
FWIW. You actually have a FOURTH OPTION:sideshow_bob said:If you want to use SRAM, don't be swayed by people questioning the decision. Red is a nice groupset, is the weight saving going to be useful on a TT bike? Probably not but it's your bike, do what you want.
You've got 3 options.
Frayed ends happen.Peter Verdesi said:Just a quick question with regard to cables (if anyone knows); if you are removing cables which are pretty new how do you prevent the cable from fraying so you can reuse them. I've found that when I cut the crimp off of the cables I, invariably, get one stray strand that prevents me from feeding the cable back through the housing. I guess the obvious answer would be if it ain't broke don't fix it. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.
What I do is that instead of cutting it with cutters I use the moto tool with a cutting will, the cut is very clean. After that I sharpen the end and it slides very easily into the sleeve.rudycyclist said:Couldn't you just turn the shifters to friction if you wanted to use Shimano bar end shifters? They should work just fine if you do that, however personally I hate using the friction setting on my TT bike. I like the indexed setup much more. It allows me to worry about my time rather than my shifting
dgregory57 said:I know before I even write this that I am going to sound like a jerk, but I will try hard not to, and hope you know I am trying not to be.
While I appreciate not over-consuming, I really wonder why someone upgrading to a full SRAM Red group would tinker to try to save the few dollars by not using new cables. If I were to go through the expense of buying SRAM Red, I would most certainly make sure I had the best cables money could buy as well...
I hope the group is all that you expect it to be.
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