Stage 5: Piacenza - Cremona, TTT 38 km

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  1. tcklyde

    tcklyde New Member

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    It was l'Equipe's fault. :)
     


  2. barnstorm

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    hectic morning at home so didn't get to really sit and watch. Disco had a good second half to save serious embarrassment. Tmo rode well as I thought they would.... even better actually. Did anyone see how many strong pulls Jan took? They do have a strong TTT team here so it would not have had to be Jan. Still a good sign from the boys in pink. No major surprise from CSC although I did tip DC to beat them.

    DC's TTT team on paper was as good as any in the race and they took a fairly distant third. Seeing that the first to last time gap was less than two minutes, this was a tight race.... which makes 39 seconds a sound beating. I was ready to post this based on the early time checks and will still say it even though they recovered a bit.... If that is the best DC could ride with all that is at stake today and all of the talent they have on the team, and Lance screaming at them from the car.... I have a new feeling about DC.... I think they might be in disarray.

    Despite that, Salvodelli, I think is showing great form and I still think he is on the short list to win. Fun stuff
     
  3. bobke

    bobke New Member

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    Exactly!

    Well it looks like bad strategy. Most teams that did well finished with fewer riders from what I can tell and Disco finished with all 9. (Is this right for those of you who saw?)

    I mean it could also mean they just got beat, but they lost 25-30 seconds by the first time check and then only 3 seconds at every check after.
    Disco often starts a littel slower but in a long TTT with hills (and Lance and George and Popo) you can make time up more easily.

    I think this bodes very well for TMO and a bigwarning to CSC in particluar for July. Who crossed the line with TMO--Jan, Rogers, Gonchar and who else? besides Kessler 2 seconds back. (He'll feel bad at dinner tonight--but it also says how fast they were going.)

    I of course have been warnng folks not to write Jan off to soon adn I think this TTT performance backs up my statements in this regard. Also, he is now high in GC and wont be allowed down the road.
     
  4. Ullefan

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    From what I gather, you've been the one saying how "fat" Jan is and how he's "over".
     
  5. DV1976

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    Dude... If you are sitting in your comfy chair passing your time writing outrageously contradictory things on purpose, having a chat with yourself and, thus, taking the mickey out your fellow forum members (who erroneously take on face value what you're writing) then I applaud you. You do have a sense of humour (a bit perverse of course but still a sense of humour. If on the other hand you seriously mean what you are writing then you are trully beyond hope... :p
     
  6. doctorSpoc

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    Honchar was a TT specialist but two Giros ago he was able to start to hang with the climbers... not the stage winners but just behind them... but last year he lost a lot of weight and was climbing quite well.. again not one of the strongest but he's a pretty good hanger on'er... wouldn't be surprised if he hung on to it throught saturday.. sunday?? i think the gloves come off and i think he looses it.. 6ht on GC last year only 4+ min back.. only lost 1:55 to Rujuano on the Queens stage last year... so he can climb... but he's only got a 11 sec buffer over Basso.. could be close.

    [Edit].. Gonchar was 2nd to Cunego in 2004... in front of Simoni.. Simoni messed up and gave Garzelli the win so he would help him gain time at the end of a stage and loost out on his bonus time and ended lossing to Gonchar on GC but 2 seconds[Edit]

    but, DiLuca... think i may be starting to be a believer... DiLuca or Cunego for Satuday.. you know Bettini might even be up for that one too.
     
  7. thebluetrain

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    I am stilll not convinced DC is in dissaray, they are just a less talented team without LA which is to be expected. Take Basso off CSC or JU off Tmobile and you will have the same result.
     
  8. thebluetrain

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    Dont pencil him in to win just yet, the mountains are still to come. If he performs well in the mountains then I think he has pulled a LA style bluff.
     
  9. alibat

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    Just finished watching the stage, videoed it whilst I was at work and kept away from the results before I had chance to watch it. Fantastic rides by CSC and TMO, shame about Kessler just missing out. Ullrich is definately on the rise, the ITT will be very interesting. Basso must favourite to win now. Didn't expect DC to be quite so far behind, I wonder what LA is saying to his team tonight. Musette is very quiet, no doubt if DC had won she would have been straight on here to gloat about it and have a go at JU/TMO.
     
  10. thebluetrain

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    Eki dropped off the back in the last 100-200m.
     
  11. whiteboytrash

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    Eki dropped off 3 times and then in the last 100m.... at one point he was waving at them to hold up..... there start was woeful.. DC never looked comfortable... those who have it on tape watch DC start they were fighting for their positions in the train straight off the ramp....

    If Kessler held on the the top 4 T-Mobile would of won... Ullrich, Rogers and Hocher finished 3" ahead of CSC but the 5th rider Kessler was 5" behind them..... T-Mobile have 4 riders in the top 4 and have the pink with Honcher... what a day for T-Mobile ! Ullrich did some massive pulls up the front and the slow-mo of Ullrich at the finish line showed him with white salt all over his mouth…. He pushed it hard.
     
  12. whiteboytrash

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    ..and thats the last we hear from you ! Go on give us some more updates ! :p
     
  13. cyclingheroes

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    Yeah JU with a great performance today, Honcher did very well in the last editions (second in 2004), could be a serious contender when TM performs like this.
     
  14. whiteboytrash

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    Oh dear..... Honchar now in pink and with a sizeable lead over Il Falco.... ;)
     
  15. lwedge

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    Nothing will stop her, nothing I tell you. :D


    I'm not surprised with CSC's performance, good show. I wasn't surprised with DC as well, I expected them to come >20 seconds behind CSC and thought they would capture second place with that time. I was on another planet when it came to slotting TM and Liberty. TM had the talent but I didn't think they would have the heart at this point to dance on the redline for a half hour or so. Boy, was I wrong. Good call to those who pegged them 2nd or even 1st.
    I was way off on Liberty Seguros Wurth.? I expected them to be rubb'n DC's butt to make it close for 2nd place.:confused:

    Capuccino anyone ?

    lw
     
  16. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    I didn't see todays TTT.

    I've read the reports and it's been a great day for Riis and CSC.
    A great day also for JU and TMO.

    I see the usual TMO/JU critics are now backtracking - they don't even have the courage of their convictions.
    What a fickle lot, you really are.

    DC had a bad day : I know that Savoldelli will fight tooth and nail to try to defend that jersey.
    I hope that DC will be loyal to Savoldelli and try to provide solid support for him.


    TMO get their first jersey of the year in a GT too.
     
  17. mitosis

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    I haven't seen any of the stages, except highlights on SBS.

    I don't know enough about the depth of the teams to have much of an idea about who was going to win the TT.

    But it has been a source of great enjoyment to read Musette and co trying to justify how totally wrong they were with their endless detailed analysis on this thread of the superiority of DC and how JU and T Mobile were finished.

    There are too many variables in cycling for anything to be a cetainty.

    Well done CSC. Great boost for T Mobile. Disco was not disgraced by any means.

    The giro just gets better and better.
     
  18. Powerful Pete

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    Hey, beyond Savoldelli, Basso et Jan, how about DiLuca and Liquigas... a few seconds behind Disco...

    Bravi! :cool:
     
  19. Rhubarb

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    Yes it does! Wow what a stage! Awesome ride by TMO, and while strong on paper, I didn't think they would pull a ride of like that and they have secured the maglia rosa. Great to see the pink train showing some form. And Jan up to 20th position 1:20 of the pace.

    And well done to CSC, they didn't have their main rivals time checks to ride too, but set a blistering pace to take the stage. Excellent ride by Julich after a disappointing prologue.

    I think DC will be really disappointed with that ride. 24 seconds of the pace at the first time check. What was going on? DC would of no doubt understood how important it was for them to get as much of a time buffer as possible before the mountains. Every second counts... :rolleyes:

    Will Robbie McEwen take his third stage today? Very exciting! Go the Giro!

    Has anyone seen Musette? Haha, too funny! Like someone else stated I'm looking forward to her analysis of how her previous analysis was so wrong!
     
  20. mitosis

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    Yeah, funny that. Now that I've read all the posts I thought the whole thread was going to be post after post from Musette.

    Better send in the trauma councillors.
     
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