Steve Kramer & Mexicans

Ang Moh said:

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WE know for sure that a little stupidity goes a long way. You are
living proof!
Do you have any idea how many US ex-pats are receiving benifits while
living abraod? Are you even aware that there is a Veteran's Outreach
Center in Manilla for needed hopspital care? Do you think benifits
stop when a US citizen resides in another country?

Stupidity? Do you have a spell-checker or you're full of it?
Check all the words you so "gracefully" misused you plain idiot...

*******Heh heh........ He's a goose alright.

Ang Moh said:

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WE know for sure that a little stupidity goes a long way. You are
living proof!
Do you have any idea how many US ex-pats are receiving benifits while
living abraod? Are you even aware that there is a Veteran's Outreach
Center in Manilla for needed hopspital care? Do you think benifits
stop when a US citizen resides in another country?

Stupidity? Do you have a spell-checker or you're full of it?
Check all the words you so "gracefully" misused you plain idiot...

Shouldn't those be ' instead of " around 'gracefully? And shouldn't
there be a ',' between the word 'misused and the word 'you?' Kids these
days....

Steve Kramer
"PhotoEnvisions" Photography
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com

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On Sep 15, 9:32 am, "Chuck" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Why are some people just [censored]?
> Say Hey:

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> Well over 12 million illegal Mexicans in the United States and Steve
> Kramer can't even qualify for government social security pension
> benefits when he reaches 62. Something incorrect with the whole system
> somewhere.

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> 5555 Yee-Haw !!- Hide quoted text -

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Say Hey Chuckie:

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I really cannot answer your question.

That's because you are a [censored].

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U.S. citizens such as Steve Kramer cannot even
receive any benefits.

And YOU konw this how? Do you even know Steve Kramer?- Hide quoted text -

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Say Hey:

Do I know Steve Kramer? Well only met him once and that was on January
8, 2004 at the Chang Puak Police in Chiang Mai, Thailand. Seems Steve
Kramer went and got himself into a bit of trouble and the Royal Thai
Police required some clarifiction from me as to his meddling in the
affiars of a Thai owned and operated business.

5555 Yee-Haw !!

Ang Moh said:

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WE know for sure that a little stupidity goes a long way. You are
living proof!
Do you have any idea how many US ex-pats are receiving benifits while
living abraod?

I have no idea. But I would venture to say that there are many.

Are you even aware that there is a Veteran's Outreach Center in
Manilla for needed hopspital care?

Yes and also help from the VFW.

Do you think benifits stop when a US citizen resides in another
country?

Steve Kramer cannot legally claim benefits because he does not
qualify. Also he claims to be a Vietnam vet of which he is NOT.

5555 Yee-Haw !!

Ang Moh said:

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WE know for sure that a little stupidity goes a long way. You are
living proof!
Do you have any idea how many US ex-pats are receiving benifits while
living abraod? Are you even aware that there is a Veteran's Outreach
Center in Manilla for needed hopspital care? Do you think benifits
stop when a US citizen resides in another country?

Stupidity? Do you have a spell-checker or you're full of it?
Check all the words you so "gracefully" misused you plain idiot...

Huh, the spelling is all correct... what's your point? Regards Charles

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Say Hey Chuckie:
I really cannot answer your question.

That's because you are a [censored].

Seconded, so it must be true :-D

"Carse Hole" <[email hidden]> dribbled

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"Chuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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My comment wasn't about the illegals. It was about all the Kramer
bashing threads. Just seems immature and idiotic to keep dredging up
the
same old garbage.

**Maybe it is immature and idiotic, but it's also *GREAT* fun.... especially
when you get [censored] like Trivino Abelardo to dance for you! :o)

For Trivino Abelardo - I want you to reply to this post with one of your
funny little 'Sue Chaisone' or 'Takin Gthepiss' posts. If you can't manage
one of those then I'm sure you'll think of another ID - BUT DON'T USE THE
TAKIN AND KANOKNUAN ID.

Thanks in advance mate for being such a sport/[censored]... :-)

--
"I still make love to my wife every day (several times)." - Trivino Y Garcia
Abelardo

"And so do dozens of other men." - Takin Gthepiss :-)

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Newsreader.com = Takin Gthepiss

............ Bulshit from a poor Englishman in a wheelchair snipped

The ONLY IDIOT in this and other Usenet groups is YOU, poor sod in a
wheelchair.

Living permanently with the fear that someone might now your real
indentity
one day and pay you a visit.

How many times do you look over your shoulder in fear when the black
guy
with his baseball bat from the wellfare pushes you and your wheelchair
on
the fresh air?

Every single poster in the Usenet is fed up with your rantings (except
your
master Deckard).

GOD created you with such tiny brains that you fail to realize that.

Your only life consist of a computer screen and wating for the guy
from the
Wellfare to push you and your wheelchair into the fresh air every week
and
pound your ass with a baseball bat.

You must have been some real bad creature in a previous life to end up
being
what you are now.

Even your mama and your dad denied your existence and declared at your
birth
that you are not a son of them.

Your next life wil be even worse ......... (if possible)

Now, start posting again 10+ posts like you did last week.
You are free to use any of your foregered ID"s as you are used to
already.

Don't be such a coward and show us that you can post again 10+ posts
in one
day, wheelchairman.

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USENET:
Sure as hell we like to fun of you

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"Nadia Aqui" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Total [censored], illegal immigrants don't qualify for TANF (temporary
assistance for needy families) previously AFDC, commonly puked up as
"welfare" in poltical tantrums. They don't qualify, they don't get it.

Hogwash- in my city, every sort of government assistance is monopolized by
illegal immigrants, to the place that the default language is Spanish, not
English. It's been a source of fights between the black Katrina refugees who
expect welfare, and the Latinos of various nationalities that now comprise
the majority in my city.

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Sheesh. We have real problems in the US, I can't believe so many folks
would rather attend to these lie-infused "talking points" instead. This
now occupies that hallowed political landscape that once included
flag-buring as the most heinous crime in JesusLand.

Illegal aliens, invading on behalf of some supposed Reconquista, are
probably the single most addressable problem for the US.
On my block, they can't even talk to one another- Mexico Northern, Mexico
Southern, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Salvador; some speak Spanish, some Nahuatl,
some in other dialects. They've formed gangs that fight amongst themselves
and prey on us- MS-13, Surenos, various drug cartels- and gangs from other
groups that fight all of them, and us, as well.
We've got to stanch this flow-
My solution is deport all of them after a month's work on the fence project-
finance it with fines for those who hired them.

Chas

Chilla said:

Ang Moh said:

On Sep 16, 2:32 pm, [email hidden] wrote:

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WE know for sure that a little stupidity goes a long way. You are
living proof!
Do you have any idea how many US ex-pats are receiving benifits while
living abraod? Are you even aware that there is a Veteran's Outreach
Center in Manilla for needed hopspital care? Do you think benifits
stop when a US citizen resides in another country?

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Stupidity? Do you have a spell-checker or you're full of it?
Check all the words you so "gracefully" misused you plain idiot...

Huh, the spelling is all correct... what's your point? Regards Charles

*****Before you sound your horn Chuckie perhaps you should read
carefully......

*benifits ?
*abraod ?
*hopspital ?

You really made a goose of yourself there Chuckie old son........Yet
again.

*grin*

Chas said:

"Nadia Aqui" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Total [censored], illegal immigrants don't qualify for TANF (temporary
assistance for needy families) previously AFDC, commonly puked up as
"welfare" in poltical tantrums. They don't qualify, they don't get it.

Hogwash- in my city, every sort of government assistance is monopolized by
illegal immigrants, to the place that the default language is Spanish, not
English.

Again, whichever radio opinion your citing is simply wrong. When a
person applies for aid they have to prove they qualify relative to
income, citizenship, size of family, etc. And they have to provie it to
government employees that have just about as rabid a group of talk-show
radio-loyalists as you'd find anywhere. If they can't prove it--no aid.
I know this from the many lawyers I'm associated with that handle legal
aid for legal residents and so know the law very well.

What--did you think that Ted Kennedy was down there doing the
paperwork? All this horseshit about how illegals get free aid is just
total crock of [censored] and all the blowhard fascists that cite it now they
are repeating what some other person told them: a lie.

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It's been a source of fights between the black Katrina refugees who
expect welfare, and the Latinos of various nationalities that now comprise
the majority in my city.

Neither group gets TANF except by fraud. The percentage of which is
apparently very minor indeed, or you would hear fascist radio quoting
that percentage endlessly.

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Sheesh. We have real problems in the US, I can't believe so many folks
would rather attend to these lie-infused "talking points" instead. This
now occupies that hallowed political landscape that once included
flag-buring as the most heinous crime in JesusLand.

Illegal aliens, invading on behalf of some supposed Reconquista, are
probably the single most addressable problem for the US.

Zzzzzz. What problem? Cheap hotel rooms? Cheap packaged chicken?
Cheap strawberries?

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On my block, they can't even talk to one another- Mexico Northern, Mexico
Southern, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Salvador; some speak Spanish, some Nahuatl,
some in other dialects.

So the big problem is that illegals can't talk to one another? That is
a sad sad state of affairs.

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They've formed gangs that fight amongst themselves
and prey on us- MS-13, Surenos, various drug cartels- and gangs from other
groups that fight all of them, and us, as well.

Ah, so the problem is illegal immigrant gang crime? Oh that's a big
one. Me, I'll guess that illegal immigrants contribute more than about
5% to over all street crime. Proove me wrong a cite a stat. And using
your guesses, they're killing and ripping off one another.

Ooo--here's one: Have you heard that they use a drop of American baby's
blood in every matzo ball--er make that tamale--that they eat! Scary!

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We've got to stanch this flow-
My solution is deport all of them after a month's work on the fence project-
finance it with fines for those who hired them.

Perhaps you've forgotten that our government is populated by people who
are on the payroll of "those who hired them" too. And they consider
manufacturing and agra-business a lot more important than than
radio-listeners. Besides which they WANT us to have our panties in a
bunch over illegal immigration, that keeps us occupied while they strip
off the light-fixtures and sell them to China.

In any case, any money we might [censored] down another rathole is tied up in
Iraq fighting the other boogey man.

While you're angishing over that, please note that China has taken over
the world.
--
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

"Nadia Aqui" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Hogwash- in my city, every sort of government assistance is monopolized
by
illegal immigrants, to the place that the default language is Spanish,
not
English.

Again, whichever radio opinion your citing is simply wrong.

*My* block, my neighborhood, my schools, my healthcare agencies- I don't
need to listen to a radio to see the effects of illegal immigration all
around me.

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......When a person applies for aid they have to prove they qualify
relative to income, citizenship, size of family, etc.

Nope- only a bill from utilities to show their residence, for book-keeping
purposes. The use is so heavy, that the *default* language for aid-delivery
agencies is *spanish*.

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.....And they have to provie it to government employees that have just
about as rabid a group of talk-show radio-loyalists as you'd find anywhere.

Nope- it's in the charter of such agencies that they deliver help to the
needy and documentation is not necessary- because lots of people can lose
their documents and still qualify for the aid, maybe even moreso.

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.....If they can't prove it--no aid. I know this from the many lawyers I'm
associated with that handle legal aid for legal residents and so know the
law very well.

Oh [censored]- lies from lieyers. The selfsame profession will present
'immigration lawyers' that will tell you just the opposite, and the guy on
the street another thing again.
Documentation is *easy*- I'd bet I can get false documentation in no more
than 24 hrs to make the initial contact- starting from zero.

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What--did you think that Ted Kennedy was down there doing the paperwork?
All this horseshit about how illegals get free aid is just total crock of
[censored] and all the blowhard fascists that cite it now they are repeating
what some other person told them: a lie.

Nope. I'm none of those things, and live in the middle of illegal aliens-
from all over Mexico, Central America and to some extent, from further down
the SAmerican continent.
Our aid-services are *clogged* past all planning; our schools are clogged;
our emergency services are clogged; our response services are clogged-
illegal aliens are a drain and a constant source of trouble here. Many of
the young men are crooks; sneak thieves, car thieves, extortion gangs, drug
smugglers/dealers.
We've got to secure our borders-
Perhaps take Mexico itself as a model of immigration laws- and their
treatment of Southerners as the standard for our enforcement.
D'ya think?

Chas

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It's been a source of fights between the black Katrina refugees who
expect welfare, and the Latinos of various nationalities that now
comprise
the majority in my city.

Neither group gets TANF except by fraud. The percentage of which is
apparently very minor indeed, or you would hear fascist radio quoting that
percentage endlessly.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sheesh. We have real problems in the US, I can't believe so many folks
would rather attend to these lie-infused "talking points" instead. This
now occupies that hallowed political landscape that once included
flag-buring as the most heinous crime in JesusLand.

Illegal aliens, invading on behalf of some supposed Reconquista, are
probably the single most addressable problem for the US.

Zzzzzz. What problem? Cheap hotel rooms? Cheap packaged chicken? Cheap
strawberries?

Quoted message said:

On my block, they can't even talk to one another- Mexico Northern, Mexico
Southern, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Salvador; some speak Spanish, some
Nahuatl,
some in other dialects.

So the big problem is that illegals can't talk to one another? That is a
sad sad state of affairs.

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They've formed gangs that fight amongst themselves
and prey on us- MS-13, Surenos, various drug cartels- and gangs from
other
groups that fight all of them, and us, as well.

Ah, so the problem is illegal immigrant gang crime? Oh that's a big one.
Me, I'll guess that illegal immigrants contribute more than about 5% to
over all street crime. Proove me wrong a cite a stat. And using your
guesses, they're killing and ripping off one another.

Ooo--here's one: Have you heard that they use a drop of American baby's
blood in every matzo ball--er make that tamale--that they eat! Scary!

Quoted message said:

We've got to stanch this flow-
My solution is deport all of them after a month's work on the fence
project-
finance it with fines for those who hired them.

Perhaps you've forgotten that our government is populated by people who
are on the payroll of "those who hired them" too. And they consider
manufacturing and agra-business a lot more important than than
radio-listeners. Besides which they WANT us to have our panties in a bunch
over illegal immigration, that keeps us occupied while they strip off the
light-fixtures and sell them to China.

In any case, any money we might [censored] down another rathole is tied up in
Iraq fighting the other boogey man.

While you're angishing over that, please note that China has taken over
the world.
--
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

On Sep 17, 1:44 pm, "Chas" <[email hidden]> wrote:
We've got to secure our borders-
Chas

******Could'nt agree more Chuck.......Letting idiots like you out into
the real world is asking for trouble......

btw How goes the spelling lessons??????

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*My* block, my neighborhood, my schools, my healthcare agencies- I
don't need to listen to a radio to see the effects of illegal
immigration all around me.

Same here. Every day I see the effects. My god-daughter's her mom
is illegal. FWIW, the baby (an American citizen with the same rights
as you and I) is entitled to assistance but her mom is not. She
cleans houses and waits tables to support herself and her child. My
wife and I try to help them too. She has not applied for government
assistance.

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Nope. I'm none of those things, and live in the middle of illegal
aliens- from all over Mexico, Central America and to some extent,
from further down the SAmerican continent.

Since my wife is Brazilian, many of our friends are from "further
down the South American continent." They are among the hardest
working, most decent people I've ever known. AFAIK, none of them
have applied for government aid. They find menial jopbs that
Americans don't want, save their money and eventually buy their own
homes. A few run small businesses where they employ both Americans
and non-Americans.

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illegal aliens are a drain and a constant source of trouble here...

That's unfortunate. Aliens, legal and otherwise, are mainly a
positive influence on life in SW Florida.

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Many of the young men are crooks; sneak thieves, car thieves,
extortion gangs, drug smugglers/dealers.

It may be convenient to believe that. There's a thing called
cognitive consonance which helps explain how xenophobes reason.

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We've got to secure our borders

With a 700 mile long wall along a 3,000 mile border? :^)

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Perhaps take Mexico itself as a model of immigration laws- and
their treatment of Southerners as the standard for our enforcement.

What other aspects of Mexican government do you suppose would make
life in the US better? Replace the FBI with the Federales?

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Newsreader.com = Takin Gthepiss

............. Bulshit from a poor Englishman in a wheelchair snipped

How about being a sport/[censored] and replying to this post with 10+ of
your funny little posts?

If you can't manage to write 10+ posts with your regular ID because
you are affraid to lose your Newsprovider again, I'm sure you will
able to forge a lot of ID's.
After all. you are known in the Usenet asTHE MASTER FORGER.

But dont use the ID's DECKARD,SUE CHAISONE or TAKIN GTHEPISS.

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Takin Gthepiss:
"If you want to make fun of me, that's fine."

USENET:
Sure as hell we like to make fun of you

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that.

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From NtlWord.com (an ISP provider of Takin Gthepiss):

"If you feel that the incident you are reporting warrants involvement
of an
appropriate law enforcement body then you must report the incident
yourself.
We will then cooperate fully with them as is appropriate under United
Kingdom law."

Chas said:

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Again, whichever radio opinion your citing is simply wrong.

*My* block, my neighborhood, my schools, my healthcare agencies- I don't
need to listen to a radio to see the effects of illegal immigration all
around me.

Okie dokie. You're projecting the state of the nation by your
subjective assessment of your own neightborhood. I understand your
vantage point perfectly.

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......When a person applies for aid they have to prove they qualify
relative to income, citizenship, size of family, etc.

Nope- only a bill from utilities to show their residence, for book-keeping
purposes. The use is so heavy, that the *default* language for aid-delivery
agencies is *spanish*.

You know nothing about the process. Showing a utility bill won't get
you close to receiving TANF. Language is a completely different
xenophobic aspect. So far we don't base our laws on ability to speak
English. Yet.

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.....And they have to provie it to government employees that have just
about as rabid a group of talk-show radio-loyalists as you'd find anywhere.

Nope- it's in the charter of such agencies that they deliver help to the
needy and documentation is not necessary- because lots of people can lose
their documents and still qualify for the aid, maybe even moreso.

Okay, you're just making stuff up now. And not even winging it very well.
--
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

"Nadia Aqui" <[email hidden]> wrote

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*My* block, my neighborhood, my schools, my healthcare agencies- I don't
need to listen to a radio to see the effects of illegal immigration all
around me.

Okie dokie. You're projecting the state of the nation by your subjective
assessment of your own neightborhood. I understand your vantage point
perfectly.

Nope; my report matches those from all over the country.
Entry into my country is not a right.
At best, it's a privilege extended to lawful applicants who qualify.
Mexicans, nor anyone else, can just get tired of where they live, and come
live in my house; use my utilities, eat at my table, use my charities, enjoy
the protections of my form of government without any comittment to our
system.

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You know nothing about the process. Showing a utility bill won't get you
close to receiving TANF.

Don't restrict it to one program, or only Federal programs, or some other
artificial parameter.
The reality is that service/welfare programs are targeted at
people-at-risk/in need, and entrance is easy enough that they're swamped by
illegal aliens.

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....Language is a completely different xenophobic aspect. So far we don't
base our laws on ability to speak English. Yet.

We should.
Mexico doesn't do business in other languages besides Mexican- why should
we?
We have legal immigrants from over a hundred countries- all speaking
different languages/dialects. We require them to learn English in order to
qualify for citizenship. Why treat illegal aliens any differently?
No reason to toady to mexicans' reluctance to learn English- particularly
when it's already accompanied by a predeliction to criminality- as evinced
by their illegal entry into the country in the first place.
They're refugees from *nothing*; no war, no ethnic cleansing, no religious
persecution- they just don't like living with a bunch of other mexicans.

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Nope- it's in the charter of such agencies that they deliver help to the
needy and documentation is not necessary- because lots of people can lose
their documents and still qualify for the aid, maybe even moreso.

Okay, you're just making stuff up now. And not even winging it very well.

Not at all-
why don't you educate yourself in the basic information surrounding the
questions, and get back to me-

Chas

Chas said:

"Okie dokie. You're projecting the state of the nation by your subjective

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assessment of your own neightborhood. I understand your vantage point
perfectly.

I think I'll join you.

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Nope; my report matches those from all over the country.

I just read a report that said those reports were lies and misinformation too.

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Entry into my country is not a right.

Yes it is, they signed the papers yesterday! Those durn Liberals done
it to us again! Free money for illegals. Dang!

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At best, it's a privilege extended to lawful applicants who qualify.
Mexicans, nor anyone else, can just get tired of where they live, and come
live in my house; use my utilities, eat at my table, use my charities, enjoy
the protections of my form of government without any comittment to our
system.

Not only that you have to move out of your own house, and pull a wagon
like a mule. And your children too, and any non-illegal immigrant in
your neighborhood. They signed the papers yesterday on all that too
them dang Liberals!

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You know nothing about the process. Showing a utility bill won't get you
close to receiving TANF.

Don't restrict it to one program, or only Federal programs, or some other
artificial parameter.
The reality is that service/welfare programs are targeted at
people-at-risk/in need, and entrance is easy enough that they're swamped by
illegal aliens.

I'm reading the law right here: Negros, people who speak Spanish, gay
people and drug dealers can get these benefits for the rest of their
life even if they are already rich! And regular citizens have to eat
[censored] right from a dog's butt. It says ir right here in the "Liberal
Welfare Dream Law of 2006". Dang that's a hell of a deal! Can't
something be done to stop it? I'm writing to Rev. Lou Dobbs. He's mad
about this business of eating dog [censored] too. It's just not right!

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....Language is a completely different xenophobic aspect. So far we don't
base our laws on ability to speak English. Yet.

We should.

Read the new law! We do! English-speaking people have to dance in
their undies!

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Mexico doesn't do business in other languages besides Mexican- why should
we?

Because we like money? Okay, I'll guess: we need to comply with the
demands of the country that OWNS our ass: China. Remember when they
took sole possession? You were out carping about cheap strawberries
and Jose not being able to quote Shakespeare.

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We have legal immigrants from over a hundred countries- all speaking
different languages/dialects. We require them to learn English in order to
qualify for citizenship. Why treat illegal aliens any differently?

I'll guess: because they are illegal aliens, they don't see any point
in respecting the "language rule" of citizenship for which they don't
qualify?

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No reason to toady to mexicans' reluctance to learn English- particularly
when it's already accompanied by a predeliction to criminality- as evinced
by their illegal entry into the country in the first place.

Sure, not when you can toady to radio blabber and agit-prop writers.

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They're refugees from *nothing*; no war, no ethnic cleansing, no religious
persecution- they just don't like living with a bunch of other mexicans.

Quoted message said:

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Nope- it's in the charter of such agencies that they deliver help to the
needy and documentation is not necessary- because lots of people can lose
their documents and still qualify for the aid, maybe even moreso.

Okay, you're just making stuff up now. And not even winging it very well.

Not at all-
why don't you educate yourself in the basic information surrounding the
questions, and get back to me-

I just got back to you, and did the best to make up the same kind of
blabber you do. How'd I do? You'll be quoting me tomorrow.

Why don't you un-educate yourself by turning off the radio? Use your
misguided anger and focus just a little bit of it on the people that
are really stinking your life up. Don't you ever wonder how folks
manage to make everybody belive that the poorest, least-educated, and
(critical!) non-voting groups of people are always the ones causing all
the problems? Sure does make it easy for the wealthy ones, the
government, and big business to have you do all their work for them.

Seems like the ones with money, education and voting habits would be
able to build a wall against these losers. But amazingly, in your
little vapor world, it doesn't work that way. Through most of Americans
history it's been the poorest, hungriest and most enfranchised that
cause all the woes. Go figure. Some people will believe anything they
read. About 75% of them, apparently.

Meanwhile they strip off the light fixtures and hook you up to the cart
to pull the load for them.

You can have the last lie in this faux discussion.
--
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Why don't all of you stop crossposting such drivel and at least keep it
on one newsgroup?

Nadia Aqui said:

Chas said:

"Okie dokie. You're projecting the state of the nation by your subjective

Quoted message said:

assessment of your own neightborhood. I understand your vantage point
perfectly.

I think I'll join you.

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Nope; my report matches those from all over the country.

I just read a report that said those reports were lies and
misinformation too.

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Entry into my country is not a right.

Yes it is, they signed the papers yesterday! Those durn Liberals done
it to us again! Free money for illegals. Dang!

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At best, it's a privilege extended to lawful applicants who qualify.
Mexicans, nor anyone else, can just get tired of where they live, and
come
live in my house; use my utilities, eat at my table, use my charities,
enjoy
the protections of my form of government without any comittment to our
system.

Not only that you have to move out of your own house, and pull a wagon
like a mule. And your children too, and any non-illegal immigrant in
your neighborhood. They signed the papers yesterday on all that too them
dang Liberals!

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You know nothing about the process. Showing a utility bill won't get you
close to receiving TANF.

Don't restrict it to one program, or only Federal programs, or some other
artificial parameter.
The reality is that service/welfare programs are targeted at
people-at-risk/in need, and entrance is easy enough that they're
swamped by
illegal aliens.

I'm reading the law right here: Negros, people who speak Spanish, gay
people and drug dealers can get these benefits for the rest of their
life even if they are already rich! And regular citizens have to eat
[censored] right from a dog's butt. It says ir right here in the "Liberal
Welfare Dream Law of 2006". Dang that's a hell of a deal! Can't
something be done to stop it? I'm writing to Rev. Lou Dobbs. He's mad
about this business of eating dog [censored] too. It's just not right!

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....Language is a completely different xenophobic aspect. So far we
don't
base our laws on ability to speak English. Yet.

We should.

Read the new law! We do! English-speaking people have to dance in
their undies!

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Mexico doesn't do business in other languages besides Mexican- why should
we?

Because we like money? Okay, I'll guess: we need to comply with the
demands of the country that OWNS our ass: China. Remember when they
took sole possession? You were out carping about cheap strawberries and
Jose not being able to quote Shakespeare.

Quoted message said:

We have legal immigrants from over a hundred countries- all speaking
different languages/dialects. We require them to learn English in
order to
qualify for citizenship. Why treat illegal aliens any differently?

I'll guess: because they are illegal aliens, they don't see any point in
respecting the "language rule" of citizenship for which they don't qualify?

Quoted message said:

No reason to toady to mexicans' reluctance to learn English- particularly
when it's already accompanied by a predeliction to criminality- as
evinced
by their illegal entry into the country in the first place.

Sure, not when you can toady to radio blabber and agit-prop writers.

Quoted message said:

They're refugees from *nothing*; no war, no ethnic cleansing, no
religious
persecution- they just don't like living with a bunch of other mexicans.

Quoted message said:

> Nope- it's in the charter of such agencies that they deliver help to
> the
> needy and documentation is not necessary- because lots of people can
> lose
> their documents and still qualify for the aid, maybe even moreso.

Okay, you're just making stuff up now. And not even winging it very
well.

Not at all-
why don't you educate yourself in the basic information surrounding the
questions, and get back to me-

I just got back to you, and did the best to make up the same kind of
blabber you do. How'd I do? You'll be quoting me tomorrow.

Why don't you un-educate yourself by turning off the radio? Use your
misguided anger and focus just a little bit of it on the people that are
really stinking your life up. Don't you ever wonder how folks manage to
make everybody belive that the poorest, least-educated, and (critical!)
non-voting groups of people are always the ones causing all the
problems? Sure does make it easy for the wealthy ones, the government,
and big business to have you do all their work for them.

Seems like the ones with money, education and voting habits would be
able to build a wall against these losers. But amazingly, in your
little vapor world, it doesn't work that way. Through most of Americans
history it's been the poorest, hungriest and most enfranchised that
cause all the woes. Go figure. Some people will believe anything they
read. About 75% of them, apparently.

Meanwhile they strip off the light fixtures and hook you up to the cart
to pull the load for them.

You can have the last lie in this faux discussion.

--
“TANSTAAFL”

____________________________________________________________________________

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3
____________________________________________________________________________

"Nadia Aqui" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Yes it is, they signed the papers yesterday! Those durn Liberals done it
to us again! Free money for illegals. Dang!

Gee; I'm sorry.
I didn't realize you were crazy.
nevermind.

Chas

Chas said:

"Nadia Aqui" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Yes it is, they signed the papers yesterday! Those durn Liberals done it
to us again! Free money for illegals. Dang!

Gee; I'm sorry.
I didn't realize you were crazy.
nevermind.

Chas

*******CRAZY?????? He made mincemeat out of you Chuckie.......

Perhaps you should get Kramer to help you out...............Redneck.