When you have an issue, say like too much alcohol, you can totally stop that
or smoking. Then you deal with the emotional baggage that goes with such a
habit. The problem with the "perfect" thing is that that is the issue, and
it makes you do stupid things. Knowing this, I decided to channel it in
such a way as to benefit me for a change instead of allowing it to set me up
so I could beat myself up. And on another point, I think that all of these
pre-plans are what helped me thus far. It is why I tell others it is just
fine if you are not ready to lose yet. Sometimes it is better not to start
till you are ready, Lee
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> I do this too, or did during the loss phase. As long as I am below goal these days I am lazy about
> it. If I gain a pound or two, I go back to writing, and it goes away.
>
> "skiur" <
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> > That's an idea. I think I could be perfect about writing in the journal
> and
> > keeping to that. Let me mull that one over.
> >
> > "Miss Violette" <
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> > berlin.de...
> > > I have that perfect issue, I just focused on keeping my journal as the
> > thing
> > > to be perfect in, that and attending meetings. So now if I choose
wrong
> > or
> > > eat too much that is fine as long as I write it down, make an honest
> > effort
> > > to figure the points and go to WI to record the effort. Takes the
> > pressure
> > > off of having to lose every week or not over eating or eating "bad" things... Just this change
> > > makes it easier somehow not to feel
deprived
> > and
> > > therefore not as likely to do the overeating, Hope that all makes
sense,
> > Lee
> > > skiur <
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> > > > dhv2 is all of 160lbs soaking wet. He'll either deal with the woe
> > change
> > > or
> > > > not because he can purchase whatever he wants at work for lunch.
> He'll
> > be
> > > a
> > > > good sport about it, he just doesn't know a whole lot about weight
> loss
> > > and
> > > > the issues that go with it. He's learning though, but it's a slow
> > > process.
> > > >
> > > > The habits that I think will be the hardest to break are:
> > > > a) getting over not being perfect
> > > > b) feeling guilty for not being perfect
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Fred" <
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> > > >
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> > > > > Here, folks say, just move on. No guilt, just get back to basics
> and
> > > > > the program which does work.
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed you mentioned dhv1 (G) - well, you cannot consider how
or
> > > > > what others eat - this is your program and you have to gain
control.
> > > > > If dhv2 does not have a weight problem, then you have to tackle
> yours
> > > > > and let him eat what he can eat and get away with. Rabbit food supplements the other items
> > > > > and is filling and healthy. Not that
> all
> > > > > you can eat is rabbit food but check out points and watch how
sauces
> > > > > score or make that SOAR. Same with salad dressing for that rabbit food. There are tricks
> > > > > but in the main, portion control, portion control and portion control really is the trick.
> > > > >
> > > > > Like some of the others I had lost weight in other ways - doing healthy choice dinners and
> > > > > carnation instant breakfasts for lunch. Well, I learned nothing about how much food and
> > > > > how to eat when I
> was
> > > > > not sticking to that regime. I regained.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not that this is absolutely simple. It is not. I'm not starving
on
> > > > > WW but there are those cravings and binge behaviors which has
> nothing
> > > > > to do with need for food. It takes effort but it is worth it when
I
> > > > > hike and bike and ski. My joints really know the difference.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:49:51 -0600, "skiur" <
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> > > > >
> > > > > >Fred,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Great job on your numbers!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I get really hung up about blowing it-I tend to blow it on
> occassion
> > > and
> > > > > >then I beat myself up. It's a habit I need to break.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Julie
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Fred" <
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> > > > > >> Welcome. Well, the others have probably covered it all in
> various
> > > > > >> ways.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> You eat NORMAL foods that you buy at any market. You just
learn
> > how
> > > > > >> to portion it out so that you do not overeat. As was said,
> buying
> > > > > >> premeasured/preweighed foods gives you no skill in managing
> > portions
> > > > > >> on your own. And if Jenny is intended to provide a kick or
quick
> > > > > >> start, WW does it my immediately immersing you in learning what
> to
> > do
> > > > > >> and how to do it. You also learn that blowing it on occasion
is
> > NOT
> > > > > >> the end of the world or the end of WW - just restart at the
next
> > meal
> > > > > >> or the next day or when the vacation ends.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> It works acceptionally well and teachs you NORMAL eating
patterns
> > so
> > > > > >> that your WOE and WOL match those of fit and healthy
individuals.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> WW works:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Fred
> > > > > >> 219.2/157.6/164. (Lifetime July 2003) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 09:51:48 -0600, "skiur"
> <
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> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >Hi everyone,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to
lose
> a
> > > > "few
> > > > > >> >pounds" my entire life. I want to change my WOE for a
healthier
> > > > > >> >WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
> I've
> > > done
> > > > > >Jenny
> > > > > >> >Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the
> same
> > > > thing
> > > > > >(I
> > > > > >> >understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but
> I'm
> > > > having
> > > > > >a
> > > > > >> >hard time differentiating the two).
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very
> single-minded
> > > in
> > > > > >> >weightloss efforts and working out. The short version is that
> it
> > > was
> > > > too
> > > > > >> >difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods. It took me
> over
> > 4
> > > > > >years
> > > > > >> >to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight
> gain
> > > > > >occurred
> > > > > >> >because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned
> that
> > I
> > > > > >might
> > > > > >> >not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for
> "wasting
> > > > money
> > > > > >on
> > > > > >> >yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for
> > > "failing"
> > > > > >and I
> > > > > >> >don't need to do that to myself.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what
else
> do
> > > you
> > > > > >have
> > > > > >> >to buy to start the program and how much is it
(approximately)?
> > > > > >> >What happens at meetings other than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on
> > > > > >> >offer for discussion?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Thanks for answering my questions.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Julie
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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