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Mike S.
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"Jonathan Ball" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Jonathan Ball wrote:
> >
> > 2> 7 hp and lb-ft of torque is easily explained by a more restrictive
> > 2> exhaust in the ML.
> >
> > > Who cares? The point is that one way or another, it's not the "same" engine.
> >
> > Er...yeah, Jonathan. It is the same engine. A couple of feet of differently-bent exhaust
> > pipework do not constitute a different
engine --
> > no way, nohow. If you intend to continue arguing to the contrary, you
will
> > succeed only in making yourself look (more) ignorant (than you already have).
>
> You don't KNOW that the difference is accounted for by a different exhaust piping. You're
> speculating, and you're doing so only to try to win a rhetorical point.
Well, of course its not the SAME engine, they can only be in one vehicle at a time.
The basic engine of say the Murano is the same as the 350Z, as well as the luxury sports car that
Nissan is making. The engine in the Honda Pilot is lifted from one of their cars, the Mitsubishis
have the same engines as their cars, all in the name of greater ease of manufacturing/profits for
the manufacturer. Its easier to build one engine, and change the tuning than it is to certify a
whole new engine for each vehicle.
The big ole engines in the bigger SUVs are lifted from the full sized pickups and other similarly
sized vehicles. They may be retuned slightly for different applications, but they're still the same
design. I know my F150 engine lives in some Ford Excursions and Expeditions. The 4.6l Ford V8 from
the Mustang was in my roommate's F150 before he sold that truck.
So, the point stands that manufacturers will stick the same engine in everything they can in an
effort to avoid designing and certifying a new engine, as well as for ease of manufacturing.
Mike
> "Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Jonathan Ball wrote:
> >
> > 2> 7 hp and lb-ft of torque is easily explained by a more restrictive
> > 2> exhaust in the ML.
> >
> > > Who cares? The point is that one way or another, it's not the "same" engine.
> >
> > Er...yeah, Jonathan. It is the same engine. A couple of feet of differently-bent exhaust
> > pipework do not constitute a different
engine --
> > no way, nohow. If you intend to continue arguing to the contrary, you
will
> > succeed only in making yourself look (more) ignorant (than you already have).
>
> You don't KNOW that the difference is accounted for by a different exhaust piping. You're
> speculating, and you're doing so only to try to win a rhetorical point.
Well, of course its not the SAME engine, they can only be in one vehicle at a time.
The basic engine of say the Murano is the same as the 350Z, as well as the luxury sports car that
Nissan is making. The engine in the Honda Pilot is lifted from one of their cars, the Mitsubishis
have the same engines as their cars, all in the name of greater ease of manufacturing/profits for
the manufacturer. Its easier to build one engine, and change the tuning than it is to certify a
whole new engine for each vehicle.
The big ole engines in the bigger SUVs are lifted from the full sized pickups and other similarly
sized vehicles. They may be retuned slightly for different applications, but they're still the same
design. I know my F150 engine lives in some Ford Excursions and Expeditions. The 4.6l Ford V8 from
the Mustang was in my roommate's F150 before he sold that truck.
So, the point stands that manufacturers will stick the same engine in everything they can in an
effort to avoid designing and certifying a new engine, as well as for ease of manufacturing.
Mike