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  1. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Oh, here we go again with the thing about you know how to lose weight you
    just don't feel like it right now.

    That's the ticket.

    I am losing weight. When I get down to a certain weight, (between 145
    and 150 depending on time of day), I reach the hunger threshold. I
    can't lose any more without being constantly hungry, and after a few
    weeks of that I give in and eat more.

    Could it be that you eat too much sugar?

    Quoted message said:

    I know if I could stick it out long enough I'd most likely get used to
    it, but the dizziness and weakness interfere with my life to the point
    where it doesn't seem worth it.

    It happens mostly after working out. On maintenance calories a workout
    leaves me feeling energized and strong, and on less than that I leave
    feeling weak and sick.

    I believe there is a way to eat enough to get by and yet eat little
    enough to lose weight, I just haven't found it yet.

    It's called a low carb diet. Maybe you'll figure it out some day.

  2. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  3. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  4. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  5. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  6. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  7. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  8. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  9. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  10. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  11. JC Der Koenig said:

    For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Thanks. For a mathematician, you're kind of arbitrary with numbers.

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    The difference in carb content between cream cheese and and cheddar
    is insignificant (0.6 grams of carb difference per serving, to be
    exact). Cottage cheese, or ricotta cheese, and cheddar? Sure, big
    difference. But not between cream cheese and cheddar.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't expect you to understand.

    That's why people communicate. So they can understand each other.
    Give it a try.

    Quoted message said:

    Ask me why.

    Your standard of what is "low carb" doesn't seem to have any sort of
    objective gold standard attached to it. Again, for a mathematician, you
    seem to adamant about being vague.

    How about this. Try it with numbers. What numerical threshold of carb
    content does a serving of (insert food here) have to be under for you
    to consider it "low carb"?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <snip>

  12. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  13. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  14. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  15. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  16. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  17. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  18. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  19. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  20. I just expect better from a mathematician. Aren't they all about
    objective numbers?

    Cheri said:

    No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

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