Suggestion to Dr. Chung



On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:08:32 -0500, Bob Pastorio <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>>


I'm beginning to think you have OCD.

(Obsessive Chung Disorder).


On and on and on and on......
 
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:28:40 -0500, John9212112 wrote
(in message <[email protected]>):

> <snip>


Heh... I just searched for [email protected] and 100% have the word
"chung" in them.

So what should I make of that?

--
God's Other Humble Servant

Steve
 
>From: Bob Pastorio [email protected]

>I wonder if he knows that lots of people call toilets "john."
>
>Pastorio


BTW, don't you realize you've gone and offended possibly millions of people
named John? What makes you think that my name is "John" anyway? Could be it's
a name like "Steve", apparently a pseudonym adopted only for the purpose of the
present discussion. Start shooting with a blunderbuss - your aim might
improve.

John
 
Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:57:04 GMT in article
<[email protected]> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung,
MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 02:20:24 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >The article does not describe Christ-complex.

>>
>> Are you saying the article "The Narcissistic Christ Complex" is not
>> about Christ Complex?
>>

>Does not describe it.
>

Sure it does:

"The Narcissistic Christ Complex is an addiction empowered
through the manipulation and exploitation of devoted
followers. It is a type of spiritual totalitarianism.
Authoritarian leaders who have both faultless control and
power to make decisions over others' lives cause impotence
and confusion in the believer. This oppression banishes
the individuality of devotees and undermines any spiritual
growth. This Narcissistic Christ Complex is usually
overlooked as something other than a Christ Complex.
People with this kind of malediction may not necessarily
proclaim themselves to be a Savior, but exhibit a self-
importance over others, especially over their students.
Perhaps they go about, flaunting their wisdom and being
profound."

The web page

http://gnosticorderofchrist.net/writings/mara/complex1.htm

contains the same text plus the following definition before it:

"The Christ Complex is a psychological term used loosely
to describe any individual mentally fixed on superiority
and/or the claim of being a savior. It is not exclusive to
Christian thought.

The idea of a Christ Complex conjures up the thought of a
crazed psychotic running through the streets proclaiming
his crown to the right hand of God, as in the movie "The
Dream Team," where a character enters a church, takes off
his clothes and tells the congregation he is Jesus. This
type of person is delusional with a brain chemical
disorder, and is rarely dangerous.

There are many types of disorders in which the Christ
Complex comes into play. The worst extreme of this complex
is seen in that of a psychopath. Someone that, over time,
comes to operate without any regard for other humans. For
instance, the most insidious and dangerous psychopaths can
become mass murderers or radical cult leaders such as Jim
Jones and David Koresh.

However, I want to focus on a more subtle condition that
occurs in leaders of spiritual or religious communities
which can escape our attention and lead to confusion in
those in search of higher knowledge."
>>
>> Even with quotes such as:
>>
>> "The Narcissistic Christ Complex is ...."
>> " This Narcissistic Christ Complex is usually overlooked as something
>> other than a Christ Complex."

>
>This quote confirms that Christ Complex is something other than the Narcisstic Christ Complex.
>

It definitely does not. It means that Narcissistic Christ Complex, a
subclass or variation of Christ Complex is often mistakenly regarded as
something else than a variation of Christ Complex. From The American
Heritage® Dictionary:

overlook
2a. To fail to notice or consider; miss

Considering that according to your own words English is your first
language(?) you seem to have surprisingly hard time understanding it. It
seems that someone's fifth language could be better that someone else's
first language ;-).
>>
>> The article "The Narcissistic
>> Christ Complex" must not be about Christ Complex, since you said so.

>
>The author has written so.
>

She has not.
>>
>> >You probably misunderstood the article because English is
>> >your *fifth* language.

>>
>> I'll ignore the usual, boring attack.

>
>English is Matti's *fifth* language so this statement is one of fact rather than attack.
>

Depends on what you mean with the fifth language. I once mentioned that
_in the chronological order_ English was the fifth language I learned.
Having used English as a working language in 23 of the last 24 years, and
having lived and worked 10 of those years abroad, some of them in UK for
example, English is hardly my fifth poorest language, but the second best.
You should pay attention what you read and not to draw too hasty
conclusions about the terms like "chronological order".
>>
>> It seems clear Matti, at least, understood it. <grin>

>

Yet another false conclusion. How come I'm not surprised.

>It seems that Matti's silence in this thread confirms that s/he has made an error in labelling me with the
>"Christ Complex" moniker.
>

You don't seem to realize that some of us eventually get bored of your
senseless drivel. If one starts arguing with an idiot one starts looking
like idiot himself. Modifying a familiar proverb: "Never start a debate
with anyone crazier than yourself". I have better things to do.

As for my "diagnosis", that's my layman's opinion. I leave the detailed
diagnosis to the professionals. But I sincerely suggest that you get your
head examined.
 
09 Dec 2003 00:28:40 GMT in article
<[email protected]> [email protected]
(John9212112) wrote:
>
>Searching for Matti Narkia I found 416 posts. Of these 205 did not contain the
>word, "chung". A quick visual scan of these indicated that most of these 205
>were not related to the war against Dr. Chung. But......50%??
>And you seem to claim not to be heavily invested in this war? Is it any wonder
>that I didn't notice or forgot about your on-topic posts? You've done a great
>job of hiding them.
>

You don't seem to have even an elementary idea how to use Google. If you
reply to a person's, say Chung's, message, that person's, e.g. Chung's,
name will be in the first lines, just like John9212112 is on the third
line of this message. I have had several fact based discussions with Chung
which could in no way be characterized a "war".

Additionally, even if I don't reply to Chung's message and not even
mention his name, his name could still appear in my message, because I may
be commenting someone else's message, who has commented Chung's message,
and so on ...

You are on rather thin ice here. You don't seem to have a clue what you
are doing.
>
>You guys really ought to find something better to do with your time. You could
>start with the Gospel of Mark. It is the short one.
>

Ditto. BTW, in case you missed it, I've been doing something better with
my time. Unfortunately you dragged me into this again. See what you doing?
 
>
> Actually, truth be told, being that I am also board-certified in
> internal medicine in addition to cardiology, I am qualified to render
> a medical opinion about a person who exhibits psychological pathology.
> On occasion I also prescribe psychtropic medications.
>
> > Pretending to medical knowledge he demonstrably doesn't have.

>
> I'm not pretending though it is clearly your delusion that I am
> pretending.
>
> > The word needed here is QUACK.

>
> Your past use of this word characterizes your mental illness.
>
> You poor soul.
>
> You remain in my prayers.
>
> Humbly,
>
> Andrew


Actually, "truth be told", your constant threats to sue people you
disagree with for "libel" is getting a bit old. And your inane
theories about diet, taken together with your overweening and
incessant references to Christ, and your alacrity in shelling out
medical advice to persons unseen and unexamined suggest that you may
well need to partake of the "psychtropic" [SIC] medications you refer
to.

I do think that "quack" may just be the right word for anyone who
seriously advocates that everyone adopt a 2 lb diet that ignores
nutritional balance and individual calorie requirements.
 
Steve wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:28:40 -0500, John9212112 wrote
> (in message <[email protected]>):
>
> > <snip>

>
> Heh... I just searched for [email protected] and 100% have the word
> "chung" in them.
>
> So what should I make of that?
>


He writes truthfully that he has been a lurker until entering this fray.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com
 
[email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:08:32 -0500, Bob Pastorio <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> Bob Pastorio wrote:
> >>

>
> I'm beginning to think you have OCD.
>
> (Obsessive Chung Disorder).
>
>
> On and on and on and on......


Maybe hearing this from enough people will convince him to seek help.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com
 
Matti Narkia wrote:

> Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:57:04 GMT in article
> <[email protected]> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung,
> MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 02:20:24 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >The article does not describe Christ-complex.
> >>
> >> Are you saying the article "The Narcissistic Christ Complex" is not
> >> about Christ Complex?
> >>

> >Does not describe it.
> >

> Sure it does:
>
> "The Narcissistic Christ Complex is an addiction empowered
> through the manipulation and exploitation of devoted
> followers. It is a type of spiritual totalitarianism.
> Authoritarian leaders who have both faultless control and
> power to make decisions over others' lives cause impotence
> and confusion in the believer. This oppression banishes
> the individuality of devotees and undermines any spiritual
> growth. This Narcissistic Christ Complex is usually
> overlooked as something other than a Christ Complex.
> People with this kind of malediction may not necessarily
> proclaim themselves to be a Savior, but exhibit a self-
> importance over others, especially over their students.
> Perhaps they go about, flaunting their wisdom and being
> profound."
>
> The web page
>
> http://gnosticorderofchrist.net/writings/mara/complex1.htm
>
> contains the same text plus the following definition before it:
>
> "The Christ Complex is a psychological term used loosely
> to describe any individual mentally fixed on superiority
> and/or the claim of being a savior. It is not exclusive to
> Christian thought.
>
> The idea of a Christ Complex conjures up the thought of a
> crazed psychotic running through the streets proclaiming
> his crown to the right hand of God, as in the movie "The
> Dream Team," where a character enters a church, takes off
> his clothes and tells the congregation he is Jesus. This
> type of person is delusional with a brain chemical
> disorder, and is rarely dangerous.
>
> There are many types of disorders in which the Christ
> Complex comes into play. The worst extreme of this complex
> is seen in that of a psychopath. Someone that, over time,
> comes to operate without any regard for other humans. For
> instance, the most insidious and dangerous psychopaths can
> become mass murderers or radical cult leaders such as Jim
> Jones and David Koresh.
>
> However, I want to focus on a more subtle condition that
> occurs in leaders of spiritual or religious communities
> which can escape our attention and lead to confusion in
> those in search of higher knowledge."


The above is from a different source and does describe the Christ-Complex.

>
> >>
> >> Even with quotes such as:
> >>
> >> "The Narcissistic Christ Complex is ...."
> >> " This Narcissistic Christ Complex is usually overlooked as something
> >> other than a Christ Complex."

> >
> >This quote confirms that Christ Complex is something other than the Narcisstic Christ Complex.
> >

> It definitely does not. It means that Narcissistic Christ Complex, a
> subclass or variation of Christ Complex is often mistakenly regarded as
> something else than a variation of Christ Complex. From The American
> Heritage® Dictionary:
>
> overlook
> 2a. To fail to notice or consider; miss
>


Overlooking the Narcisstic Christ-Complex is different from regarding it as something different from the
Christ-Complex. Indeed, the definition of Narcisstic Christ-Complex is *different* from the definition of
Christ-Complex from the sources you cite. Just because you want them to be the same, doesn't make them so.

>
> Considering that according to your own words English is your first
> language(?)


It is.

> you seem to have surprisingly hard time understanding it.


I'm not having trouble distinguishing different definitions as you appear to be having.

> It
> seems that someone's fifth language could be better that someone else's
> first language ;-).
>


Perhaps to someone whose English is his/her *fifth* language ;-)

> >>
> >> The article "The Narcissistic
> >> Christ Complex" must not be about Christ Complex, since you said so.

> >
> >The author has written so.
> >

> She has not.


She has.

>
> >>
> >> >You probably misunderstood the article because English is
> >> >your *fifth* language.
> >>
> >> I'll ignore the usual, boring attack.

> >
> >English is Matti's *fifth* language so this statement is one of fact rather than attack.
> >

> Depends on what you mean with the fifth language. I once mentioned that
> _in the chronological order_ English was the fifth language I learned.


Thanks for confirming that I write truthfully.

>
> Having used English as a working language in 23 of the last 24 years, and
> having lived and worked 10 of those years abroad, some of them in UK for
> example, English is hardly my fifth poorest language, but the second best.
> You should pay attention what you read and not to draw too hasty
> conclusions about the terms like "chronological order".
>


That's how the "order" of language is defined... temporally.

> >>
> >> It seems clear Matti, at least, understood it. <grin>

> >

> Yet another false conclusion. How come I'm not surprised.
>


Truth is not surprising.

>
> >It seems that Matti's silence in this thread confirms that s/he has made an error in labelling me with the
> >"Christ Complex" moniker.
> >

> You don't seem to realize that some of us eventually get bored of your
> senseless drivel. If one starts arguing with an idiot one starts looking
> like idiot himself.


And here you are calling yourself names...

> Modifying a familiar proverb: "Never start a debate
> with anyone crazier than yourself". I have better things to do.
>


As does Pastorio ;-)

>
> As for my "diagnosis", that's my layman's opinion. I leave the detailed
> diagnosis to the professionals. But I sincerely suggest that you get your
> head examined.


You're the one self-diagnosing yourself. Now with the diagnosis, you could seek treatment.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com
 
bjmpls wrote:

> >
> > Actually, truth be told, being that I am also board-certified in
> > internal medicine in addition to cardiology, I am qualified to render
> > a medical opinion about a person who exhibits psychological pathology.
> > On occasion I also prescribe psychtropic medications.
> >
> > > Pretending to medical knowledge he demonstrably doesn't have.

> >
> > I'm not pretending though it is clearly your delusion that I am
> > pretending.
> >
> > > The word needed here is QUACK.

> >
> > Your past use of this word characterizes your mental illness.
> >
> > You poor soul.
> >
> > You remain in my prayers.
> >
> > Humbly,
> >
> > Andrew

>
> Actually, "truth be told", your constant threats to sue people you
> disagree with for "libel" is getting a bit old.


Pastorio hardly a people make.

> And your inane
> theories about diet, taken together with your overweening


overweening?

> and
> incessant references to Christ, and your alacrity in shelling out
> medical advice to persons unseen and unexamined


When I give medical advice, I will have examined said individual receiving
the advice.

> suggest that you may


> well need to partake of the "psychtropic" [SIC] medications you refer
> to.


Psychotropic medications are not indicated for altruism.

>
>
> I do think that "quack" may just be the right word for anyone who
> seriously advocates that everyone adopt a 2 lb diet that ignores
> nutritional balance and individual calorie requirements.


Is it your claim that I am a quack? Just want you to be clearly understood,
that's all.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com
 
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:57:04 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> >> >> Not a chance. You do seem to have giant Christ-complex.
>> >> >
>> >> >What is a Christ-complex?
>> >> >
>> >> See
>> >>
>> >> <http://www.suite101.com/discussion.cfm/npd/69510/latest/1>
>> >>
>> >> >> Not a chance. You do seem to have giant Christ-complex.
>> >> >
>> >> >What is a Christ-complex?
>> >> >
>> >> See above
>> >
>> >The article does not describe Christ-complex.

>>
>> Are you saying the article "The Narcissistic Christ Complex" is not
>> about Christ Complex?
>>

>
>Does not describe it.
>
>>
>> Even with quotes such as:
>>
>> "The Narcissistic Christ Complex is ...."
>> " This Narcissistic Christ Complex is usually overlooked as something
>> other than a Christ Complex."

>
>This quote confirms that Christ Complex is something other than the Narcisstic Christ Complex.


You say Narcissistic Christ Complex is not Christ Complex.
I see how it works.
Big brown dog is not brown dog.
Delicious berry pie is not berry pie.
Tall glass building is not glass building.

I thought it was English you were using, but it's not, it is
Chunglish. It takes a few examples to learn this new language. Perhaps
others can add a few more examples so we can all speak Chunglish. Even
looks like some Chunglish words are spelled differently, too
(Narcisstic).

Let me try a few more:

Doctor Andrew Chung is not Andrew Chung.
Humble Doctor Chung is not Doctor Chung.
Honest Andrew Chung is not Andrew Chung.

Hey - maybe Chunglish is not so hard after all. It's even beginning to
make sense in English. <grin>

>> >You probably misunderstood the article because English is
>> >your *fifth* language.

>>
>> I'll ignore the usual, boring attack.
>>

>
>English is Matti's *fifth* language so this statement is one of fact rather than attack.


Here we learn more about Chunglish. Statements in Chunglish do not
mean what they would in English. Chunglish includes reverse logic,
too, and things mean the opposite of English.

For example, "Chunglish is the language of truth" means the opposite,
but it makes the speaker look as though he is telling the truth when
it is instead false, because it seems like English. But, if you think
in Chunglish, and are speaking Chunglish, you believe, with absolute
certainty, that you are telling the truth. Now we can all understand
when he tells us only he knows the truth, and is telling the truth.
It's one of the miracles of Chunglish.

>>
>> It seems clear Matti, at least, understood it. <grin>

>
>It seems that Matti's silence in this thread confirms that s/he has made an error in labelling me with the
>"Christ Complex" moniker.


An excellent example of Chunglish, and how it includes the opposite of
English. First, we don't know if Matti will be silent, but in
Chunglish, you can assume whatever you want and it becomes absolute
truth. One of the miracles of Chunglish. The twisted logic of
Chunglish becomes apparent by stating that an unknown event already
confirms something. Isn't is wonderful what you can conclude in
Chunglish? You can be sure you are absolutely right, too, because
Chunglish is the language of truth, as described above, of course.
<grin>.

Anyone else have some good examples to help us understand Chunglish a
bit better? Chunglish is my fifth language. <g>
Matt
 
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Bob Pastorio <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>>Bob Pastorio wrote:
>>>
>>>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Bob Pastorio <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>>>>
>>>>>><a not surprising case study of mental illness snipped>
>>>>>
>>>>>Reminds me of:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp
>>>>
>>>><libelous statements written out of desperate obsessive hatred snipped>
>>>
>>>FYI Note: I am aware that this thread displays psychological pathology in a participant (Pastorio)
>>>that may be distressing for some SMC readers. If you are bothered by it, a few suggestions:
>>>
>>>(1) Yell at Pastorio

>>
>>The unfortunate sign of the Chungster hightailing it away from the
>>field of combat he started. It's when he brings out his Mighty Macro
>>Machine (tm) that we can see that he's been defeated in his own choice
>>of belligerent games. He simply can't let stand the words that bring
>>his pomposity and hubris to its figurative knees.


Poor Chung. He's obviously at the end of his very short rope. Pulled
out all the simpleminded stops available to him.

>>I bet the next new page on his web site will be the "New, Improved
>>Chung Delete-o-rama program." It removes all proof of Chung's
>>incompetence with English, all the definitions of his handicaps, all
>>unsubstantiated references, all proof that 2PD is silly, all cultist
>>religious twaddle, and all self-referential embarrassments. All it
>>leaves, in his case, is the little angle brackets that mark lines plus
>>his name.
>>
>>Poor Chung starts the fight and runs screaming when it's brought back
>>to him. He welcomes the strife he creates, he says. Then he urges all
>>to complain about it and killfile his successful rebutter.


Poor Chung.

>>Bravo, Chung, I say. Bravo. So brave going into the fray unarmed as he
>>is. It's very impressive watching Chung eat his words. He says he
>>welcomes the give and take. But look at what actually happens. When he
>>posts things that hs own actions betray, that's called lying.
>>
>>The most utterly hilarious signal of his debility is that frantic
>>"libelous statements written out of desperate obsessive hatred
>>snipped" and then he proceeds to post exactly the sort of madness that
>>he has just finished characterizing as "libelous." He offers "mental
>>illness" as his "diagnosis" of another poster. He says, "I am aware
>>that this thread displays psychological pathology in a participant
>>(Pastorio)..." wherein he offers a medical opinion he's not qualified
>>to make.


And here's poor Chung trying to rescue some small semblance of his
self-forgiveness and failing, as always. Poor talentless Chung.

> Actually, truth be told, being that I am also board-certified in
> internal medicine in addition to cardiology, I am qualified to render
> a medical opinion about a person who exhibits psychological pathology.
> On occasion I also prescribe psychtropic medications.


There's a difference between being legally able and being competent.
Chung is "qualified" to render a judgement about physical issues. And
he is "qualified" to try to get new customers by his web site.

>>Pretending to medical knowledge he demonstrably doesn't have.

>
> I'm not pretending though it is clearly your delusion that I am
> pretending.


He has no credentials in psychology. Asserting otherwise, as he does
by implication above, is pretending. Truth is simple.

>>The word needed here is QUACK.

>
> Your past use of this word characterizes your mental illness.


Much as Chung would like to believe that, my use of the word
demonstrates a splendid clarity of understanding and a wonderful
example of my spot-on use of language. Were I chung, I might look to
my web site and see all the examples of persecution and try to get
help for the paranoia. And maybe look at the 2PD stuff and get help
for simplistic thinking. And look at the religious crankery and get
help from a theologian. And read Chung's written word and try to
emulate Matti who uses the language so much more accurately and
truthfully. Just so many places for improvement. Full time job for
poor Chung.

> See:
>
> http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp


Even liar, fraud, quack Chung can't believe that twisted drivel
anymore. It's just another fine example of how he demonstrates his
love for his fellow man. Well, that and the innuendo and insinuation
he does. And the deliberate distortions and efforts to embarrass.
Except for his dishonestly sleazy actions, I'm sure he tells the
truth, if only accidentally.

> You poor soul.
>
> You remain in my prayers.


<insert definition of hypocrite here>

> Humbly,


<insert real definition of humble here>

Pastorio
 
John9212112 wrote:

>>From: Bob Pastorio [email protected]

>
>
>>John9212112 wrote:
>>
>>>>From: Steve [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Trolling" is a term that is frequently bandied about whenever someone
>>>>disagrees with someone else.
>>>>
>>>>I am unaware of any single, widely accepted definition of trolling.
>>>
>>>Well, in my view, what you (and others) have been doing is trolling.

>>
>>Nice bit of editing, fraud-boy. Snip out the fullness of it and make
>>up a self-serving definition. You're merely a shabby imitation of
>>fraud Chung. A shadow of a shadow...
>>
>>Pastorio

>
> I kept the part of the quote I was responding to. I junked the rest.


Sure, "John" you "junked the rest." The part that carried the
definition you acted like didn't exist. Phony.

> I think
> that is in keeping with good netiquette.


You seem to actually think very little.

> But I don't think I'll accept advice
> on this subject from you.


John, you need to practice your Chungspeak a little more. You aren't
very good at it.

Pastorio
 
John9212112 wrote:

> Did you happen to read the first post of this thread? And several subsequent
> one? Mine?
>
> But see what happens when you post in support of Dr. Chung? They try to shout
> you down. No wonder most don't want to get involved.


Boo hoo, wah wah...

Poor "John" is being shouted down. When you post phony ******** people
respond with hoots of derision and flaming appropriateness. See how it
works?

I didn't think so.

Pastorio
 
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:56:48 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
>>(in message <[email protected]>):
>>
>>>Steve wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:34:10 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
>>>>(in message <[email protected]>):

>>
>>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>Ah, the Dreaded Macro. A sure sign that Chung has left the Field of
>>>>Intellectual Battle in disgrace.
>>>
>>>Still here. Sorry to disappoint.

>>
>>Why, no, not at all :) I just would like to see you here out in the
>>open instead of hiding behind some mindless macro...

>
> How do you hide behind a macro?
>
> When you use one to append the "imitation" message, did anyone accuse you of
> hiding?


Nope. They slapped their knees and howled with laughter because
Chung's silly egotism and sillier diversionary tactics were
wonderfully parodied. Clever, actually.

Pastorio
 
[email protected] wrote:

> I'm beginning to think you have OCD.
>
> (Obsessive Chung Disorder).
>
> On and on and on and on......


Oh, jump in. It's actually a bit of fun to poke at a windbag like
Chung. When you get a good puncture, he flies around the room like the
empty balloon he is.

Pastorio
 
John9212112 wrote:

>>From: Bob Pastorio [email protected]

>
>>I wonder if he knows that lots of people call toilets "john."
>>
>>Pastorio

>
> BTW, don't you realize you've gone and offended possibly millions of people
> named John?


Can't seem to get past that "John"=toilet thing. Bit thin-skinned for
usenet there, Sparky.

Not to mention "Crapper" and "Hopper" and "shithouse." But, "John" I
want you to know that we all feel your pain. I would just guess that a
lot of people feel you're a pain. Has anyone ever mentioned that you
sound like B*ll P*lmer?

> What makes you think that my name is "John" anyway?


Because you said it was. And Chung actually acts like you're a
separate person named "John."

> Could be it's
> a name like "Steve", apparently a pseudonym adopted only for the purpose of the
> present discussion.


Actually, that long-time lurking you said you did seems not to be
completely true. I know, I'm embarrassed for bringing it up. But Steve
has been around for rather a while now. Unlike yourself, not to put
too fine a point on it.

> Start shooting with a blunderbuss - your aim might
> improve.


It seems you also don't know much about blunderbusses, either. You
don't actually aim them in the same way one would aim a weapon with a
rifled barrel. But why would anyone expect you to know something like
that?

> John


Sure. Go ahead. It's down the hall to the left. <heh heh - slaps knee>

But, seriously. Here's why I absolutely believe your name is "John."
You signed you post "John." And I have faith in my fellow man.

Pastorio
 
[email protected] wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:08:32 -0500, Bob Pastorio <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>>Bob Pastorio wrote:
>>>

> I'm beginning to think you have OCD.
>
> (Obsessive Chung Disorder).
>
> On and on and on and on......


Missed you at the Labor Day weekend Springsteen concert. My son's
group was the boardwalk band for the occasion. Two swell concerts in
one day. Sunny and warm.

Fine. Yourself?

Pastorio
 
[email protected] wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:08:32 -0500, Bob Pastorio <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>>Bob Pastorio wrote:
>>>

>
> I'm beginning to think you have OCD.
>
> (Obsessive Chung Disorder).
>
> On and on and on and on......


Sad thing that Chung disorder thing. Several people have been trying
to help him with it but you know how he is...

Still, I don't think people should give up on Chung. If nothing else,
he's terrific target practice, if a bit slow-moving and Day-Glo (tm)
colored.

I'm sure he appreciates your concern and how well you've named his
problem.

Chung Disorder. Pure poetry...

Pastorio
 
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> bjmpls wrote:
>
>>>Actually, truth be told, being that I am also board-certified in
>>>internal medicine in addition to cardiology, I am qualified to render
>>>a medical opinion about a person who exhibits psychological pathology.
>>> On occasion I also prescribe psychtropic medications.
>>>
>>>>Pretending to medical knowledge he demonstrably doesn't have.
>>>
>>>I'm not pretending though it is clearly your delusion that I am
>>>pretending.
>>>
>>>>The word needed here is QUACK.
>>>
>>>Your past use of this word characterizes your mental illness.
>>>
>>>You poor soul.
>>>
>>>You remain in my prayers.
>>>
>>>Humbly,
>>>
>>>Andrew

>>
>>Actually, "truth be told", your constant threats to sue people you
>>disagree with for "libel" is getting a bit old.

>
> Pastorio hardly a people make.


What perfectly splendid use of the language.

>> And your inane
>>theories about diet, taken together with your overweening

>
> overweening?


Yes. Overweening and in arrogant. Any native speaker of English should
know that. Chung's rather constant bad use of the language should be a
source of embarrassment. Obviously it's no more embarrassing for him
not to know how to use English than it is for him to spout quack
"diagnoses."

>>and
>>incessant references to Christ, and your alacrity in shelling out
>>medical advice to persons unseen and unexamined

>
> When I give medical advice, I will have examined said individual receiving
> the advice.


I wonder if it's Chung's claim that all the people he gives "medical
advice" to have been examined by him? All these posts with "diagnoses"
and suggestions for treatment? When he tells people to get different
doctors?

Did those people go to his office? Meet him in a hospital? Oh, wait.
He has no hospital privileges. Maybe meet him in a rest stop on the
interstate highway? Examined, he says. Could there be a moment of less
than full truth there?

>>suggest that you may
>>well need to partake of the "psychtropic" [SIC] medications you refer
>>to.

>
> Psychotropic medications are not indicated for altruism.


But they are for psychoses and sociopathic behavior. I know this
because I learned it the same way Chung did. Watching tv movies.

As for altruism, Chung posts so suckers will go to his web site and
sign up for medical care to enrich Chung's coffers. That's commerce,
not altruism.

>>I do think that "quack" may just be the right word for anyone who
>>seriously advocates that everyone adopt a 2 lb diet that ignores
>>nutritional balance and individual calorie requirements.

>
> Is it your claim that I am a quack? Just want you to be clearly understood,
> that's all.


As ever, Chung is only trying to be helpful. And quack certainly seems
to be the correct word. I wonder how many times Chung needs to hear
the definition and the concerted use of the word to characterize him
before he stops his quackery.

> Humbly,


<Insert definition of humble here>

Pastorio