Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:57:04 GMT in article
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[email protected]> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung,
MD/PhD" <
[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
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>> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 02:20:24 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> >The article does not describe Christ-complex.
>>
>> Are you saying the article "The Narcissistic Christ Complex" is not
>> about Christ Complex?
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>Does not describe it.
>
Sure it does:
"The Narcissistic Christ Complex is an addiction empowered
through the manipulation and exploitation of devoted
followers. It is a type of spiritual totalitarianism.
Authoritarian leaders who have both faultless control and
power to make decisions over others' lives cause impotence
and confusion in the believer. This oppression banishes
the individuality of devotees and undermines any spiritual
growth. This Narcissistic Christ Complex is usually
overlooked as something other than a Christ Complex.
People with this kind of malediction may not necessarily
proclaim themselves to be a Savior, but exhibit a self-
importance over others, especially over their students.
Perhaps they go about, flaunting their wisdom and being
profound."
The web page
http://gnosticorderofchrist.net/writings/mara/complex1.htm
contains the same text plus the following definition before it:
"The Christ Complex is a psychological term used loosely
to describe any individual mentally fixed on superiority
and/or the claim of being a savior. It is not exclusive to
Christian thought.
The idea of a Christ Complex conjures up the thought of a
crazed psychotic running through the streets proclaiming
his crown to the right hand of God, as in the movie "The
Dream Team," where a character enters a church, takes off
his clothes and tells the congregation he is Jesus. This
type of person is delusional with a brain chemical
disorder, and is rarely dangerous.
There are many types of disorders in which the Christ
Complex comes into play. The worst extreme of this complex
is seen in that of a psychopath. Someone that, over time,
comes to operate without any regard for other humans. For
instance, the most insidious and dangerous psychopaths can
become mass murderers or radical cult leaders such as Jim
Jones and David Koresh.
However, I want to focus on a more subtle condition that
occurs in leaders of spiritual or religious communities
which can escape our attention and lead to confusion in
those in search of higher knowledge."
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>> Even with quotes such as:
>>
>> "The Narcissistic Christ Complex is ...."
>> " This Narcissistic Christ Complex is usually overlooked as something
>> other than a Christ Complex."
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>This quote confirms that Christ Complex is something other than the Narcisstic Christ Complex.
>
It definitely does not. It means that Narcissistic Christ Complex, a
subclass or variation of Christ Complex is often mistakenly regarded as
something else than a variation of Christ Complex. From The American
Heritage® Dictionary:
overlook
2a. To fail to notice or consider; miss
Considering that according to your own words English is your first
language(?) you seem to have surprisingly hard time understanding it. It
seems that someone's fifth language could be better that someone else's
first language ;-).
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>> The article "The Narcissistic
>> Christ Complex" must not be about Christ Complex, since you said so.
>
>The author has written so.
>
She has not.
>>
>> >You probably misunderstood the article because English is
>> >your *fifth* language.
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>> I'll ignore the usual, boring attack.
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>English is Matti's *fifth* language so this statement is one of fact rather than attack.
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Depends on what you mean with the fifth language. I once mentioned that
_in the chronological order_ English was the fifth language I learned.
Having used English as a working language in 23 of the last 24 years, and
having lived and worked 10 of those years abroad, some of them in UK for
example, English is hardly my fifth poorest language, but the second best.
You should pay attention what you read and not to draw too hasty
conclusions about the terms like "chronological order".
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>> It seems clear Matti, at least, understood it. <grin>
>
Yet another false conclusion. How come I'm not surprised.
>It seems that Matti's silence in this thread confirms that s/he has made an error in labelling me with the
>"Christ Complex" moniker.
>
You don't seem to realize that some of us eventually get bored of your
senseless drivel. If one starts arguing with an idiot one starts looking
like idiot himself. Modifying a familiar proverb: "Never start a debate
with anyone crazier than yourself". I have better things to do.
As for my "diagnosis", that's my layman's opinion. I leave the detailed
diagnosis to the professionals. But I sincerely suggest that you get your
head examined.