Summer Bugs

Discussion in 'Recumbent bicycles' started by NYC XYZ, Apr 16, 2006.

  1. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    [...]
    > Trollers here do it ham-handed, mostly. Poor technique,
    > no finese, noise only.


    Finesse is wasted on this newsgroup. It is most especially wasted on Jon
    Meinecke, who has ever proven himself to be a weasel. Do weasels even have
    any sophistication? All Meinecke is good for is posting his cryptic nonsense
    and then running and hiding from those who would answer him. He did that
    with Ed Gin, the ONLY troll this newsgroup has ever had, and he does it with
    the Great Ed Dolan too.

    Of all the vices, cowardice is the most despicable. I will take a JimmyMac
    and a Tom Sherman any day to a weasel like Jon Meinecke. Screw it! I will
    even take wankers like Flabby to a Jon Meinecke.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     


  2. Jon  Meinecke

    Jon Meinecke Guest

    [newsgroup restored]

    See Eugene,

    The net.species in ARBR have certain peculiarities.... trolling
    by disassociation from reality and projection is standard behavior
    by a prolific, but lesser species there.

    This one is easy to troll, but he's really only a one-trick pony.
    Taking Mr. Ed on a trek through the rec.backcountry is the only
    reason I respond. He really needs to get out more. The people
    in rec.bicycles.misc really appreciate it when he visits.

    Note that he's mistaken my species as weasel. %^) The net.weasel
    family can take care of themselves and more. We flightless birds
    are no competition for Mustelidae, and particularly for the gulo gulo
    luscus.

    "Slurp" -- net.wolverine (weasel with attitude)

    Jon Meinecke
    net.subtle-apteryx


    "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > [...]
    >> As a fishing technique, effective for catfish, though some might
    >> call noodling unsavory as a practice. Figuratively, a common
    >> method when trolling for Dolan here.

    >
    > No one, but no one, can troll the Great Ed Dolan. On the other hand, I can
    > easily troll all the suckers and bottom feeders who infest ARBR.
    >
    > Apparently Meinecke stays current on this newsgroup although he never
    > makes any contributions to it anymore. Well, he will learn some wit and
    > wisdom simply by reading what Ed Dolan the Great writes to this miserable
    > newsgroup, otherwise known as ARBR.
    >
    > Meinecke was one of the main things that was wrong with this group when
    > push came to shove. When a criminal vandal troll showed up here (Ed Gin),
    > all he knew how to do was to run and hide like the cowardly weasel that he
    > is. He does not have a clue about what destroyed this group. It takes
    > talent to be as dense as he ever proves himself to be. I attribute his
    > density to his Germanic racial traits.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    > aka
    > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
    >
    >
     
  3. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    Mr. Meinecke knows he should not top post, so why does he do it?

    > [newsgroup restored]
    >
    > See Eugene,
    >
    > The net.species in ARBR have certain peculiarities.... trolling
    > by disassociation from reality and projection is standard behavior
    > by a prolific, but lesser species there.


    It appears that Mr. Meinecke is reading my humble messages after all, even
    though he remains too fear stricken to ever respond directly to anything I
    say. This is why I constantly refer to him as a weasel, a creature known for
    its slithery, sideways behavior.

    > This one is easy to troll, but he's really only a one-trick pony.
    > Taking Mr. Ed on a trek through the rec.backcountry is the only
    > reason I respond. He really needs to get out more. The people
    > in rec.bicycles.misc really appreciate it when he visits.


    The folks in RBM are even dumber than the folks who pollute ARBR. Let us not
    worry about what they might think. You need to read Bill Baka to get a clue
    about that group.

    > Note that he's mistaken my species as weasel. %^) The net.weasel
    > family can take care of themselves and more. We flightless birds
    > are no competition for Mustelidae, and particularly for the gulo gulo
    > luscus.


    No one is going to look up any of the above. Way too much work!

    Mr. Meinecke has had me down as a troll from day one, not ever realizing
    that all he was getting, along with everyone else, was nothing but
    quintessential Ed Dolan. I have no interest in trolling. That is for idiots.
    Ed Gin was truly the only troll that ARBR ever had from my perspective.
    Flabby was a one note Johnny and essentially harmless.

    It is really too bad that Mr. Meinecke and I do not get along better as we
    have many similar interests when it comes to how a newsgroup should conduct
    itself. However, personality clashes often determine everything in this
    world of woe and there is no help for it. I simply can't stand his Germanic
    stolidity. He seems not to have even a spark of Irish lightness.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



    > "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >>
    >> "Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> [...]
    >>> As a fishing technique, effective for catfish, though some might
    >>> call noodling unsavory as a practice. Figuratively, a common
    >>> method when trolling for Dolan here.

    >>
    >> No one, but no one, can troll the Great Ed Dolan. On the other hand, I
    >> can easily troll all the suckers and bottom feeders who infest ARBR.
    >>
    >> Apparently Meinecke stays current on this newsgroup although he never
    >> makes any contributions to it anymore. Well, he will learn some wit and
    >> wisdom simply by reading what Ed Dolan the Great writes to this miserable
    >> newsgroup, otherwise known as ARBR.
    >>
    >> Meinecke was one of the main things that was wrong with this group when
    >> push came to shove. When a criminal vandal troll showed up here (Ed
    >> Gin), all he knew how to do was to run and hide like the cowardly weasel
    >> that he is. He does not have a clue about what destroyed this group. It
    >> takes talent to be as dense as he ever proves himself to be. I attribute
    >> his density to his Germanic racial traits.
     
  4. Eugene Miya

    Eugene Miya Guest

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Jon Meinecke <[email protected]> wrote:
    >The net.species in ARBR have certain peculiarities.... trolling
    >by disassociation from reality and projection is standard behavior
    >by a prolific, but lesser species there.


    Well every news group, mailing list, listserv, Wiki, etc. has a degree
    of this. A signature signal. Amuse yourself in alt.culture.alaska some
    time.

    >This one is easy to troll, but he's really only a one-trick pony.


    Ah!

    >Taking Mr. Ed on a trek through the rec.backcountry is the only
    >reason I respond. He really needs to get out more. The people
    >in rec.bicycles.misc really appreciate it when he visits.


    I need to get out more, too. Headed to Yosemite with 2 French post docs
    this evening.

    >Note that he's mistaken my species as weasel. %^) The net.weasel
    >family can take care of themselves and more. We flightless birds
    >are no competition for Mustelidae, and particularly for the gulo gulo
    >luscus.
    >
    > "Slurp" -- net.wolverine (weasel with attitude)


    Well weasels are merely geentic cousins.

    >"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> No one, but no one, can troll the Great Ed Dolan.


    Just did.
    No idea what makes you great.

    >> Apparently Meinecke stays current on this newsgroup although he never
    >> makes any contributions to it anymore.


    So most net.unglates.

    >> Meinecke was one of the main things that was wrong with this group when
    >> push came to shove. When a criminal vandal troll showed up here (Ed Gin),
    >> all he knew how to do was to run and hide like the cowardly weasel that he
    >> is. He does not have a clue about what destroyed this group. It takes
    >> talent to be as dense as he ever proves himself to be. I attribute his
    >> density to his Germanic racial traits.


    No context. No interest spark.
    It's Usenet.

    --
     
  5. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Eugene Miya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    [...]
    >>"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]
    >>> No one, but no one, can troll the Great Ed Dolan.

    >
    > Just did.
    > No idea what makes you great.


    I respond to almost everyone who addresses any of my messages. But I do so
    on my terms only. I always end up talking about what I want to talk about,
    not what someone else might want me to talk about. Therefore, I cannot be
    trolled. Only dunces allow themselves to be trolled.

    My Greatness comes from a persona I have created for Usenet purposes. I am
    sick and tired of all the nonentities who infest Usenet. For God's sakes,
    they do not even use their real names. I decided from day one that I was not
    going to be a cipher like all the rest of them. Therein lies my Greatness!

    >>> Apparently Meinecke stays current on this newsgroup although he never
    >>> makes any contributions to it anymore.

    >
    > So most net.unglates.


    ??? Way too lazy to EVER look up anything! It comes from my professional
    training as a librarian.

    >>> Meinecke was one of the main things that was wrong with this group when
    >>> push came to shove. When a criminal vandal troll showed up here (Ed
    >>> Gin),
    >>> all he knew how to do was to run and hide like the cowardly weasel that
    >>> he
    >>> is. He does not have a clue about what destroyed this group. It takes
    >>> talent to be as dense as he ever proves himself to be. I attribute his
    >>> density to his Germanic racial traits.

    >
    > No context. No interest spark.
    > It's Usenet.


    You would have had to experience Ed Gin to know what I am talking about. He
    was totally mindless and into nothing but name calling. He stepped on every
    thread with his spamming messages. He forged other's real names and
    addresses as well as using dozens of different user names himself. All of
    his posts were through proxies. He never responded to anything that was
    said. He in effect destroyed ARBR because no one on the group (except for a
    few of us) had the guts to fight him.

    Mr. Meinecke always prided himself on being somewhat responsible for good
    Usenet etiquette, yet when push came to shove he absented himself. That is
    why I do not like him much. Yes, he is intelligent, but what good is
    intelligence without courage?

    Poor Mr. Meinecke does not know a troll from a hole in the ground. When a
    real troll showed up he was out to lunch. Note how I have responded to your
    message. Does it seem like I am trolling you? However, I am prepared to
    take you to task for your constipated one-liners if you wish.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     
  6. Jon  Meinecke

    Jon Meinecke Guest

    "Eugene Miya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Jon Meinecke <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>The net.species in ARBR have certain peculiarities.... trolling
    >>by disassociation from reality and projection is standard behavior
    >>by a prolific, but lesser species there.

    >
    > Well every news group, mailing list, listserv, Wiki, etc. has a degree
    > of this. A signature signal. Amuse yourself in alt.culture.alaska some
    > time.


    Interestingly Floyd had his turn with Mr. Ed about 18 months ago.
    In short order, Floyd made mincemeat of him without raising a sweat.
    After Floyd ID'ed Ed's "raging bull" as "mooing cow mode...", here's
    the best Ed could offer. Classic.

    http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/27fa342ff5a0e6ca?dmode=source

    >>This one is easy to troll, but he's really only a one-trick pony.

    >
    > Ah!


    Really not worth the bother.

    >>Taking Mr. Ed on a trek through the rec.backcountry is the only
    >>reason I respond. He really needs to get out more. The people
    >>in rec.bicycles.misc really appreciate it when he visits.

    >
    > I need to get out more, too. Headed to Yosemite with 2 French post docs
    > this evening.


    I did a short bike campout this weekend, local state park, ACE lake.
    Nice stand of Post Oak and Cedar Elm masked nearby other campsites.
    Noise was another issue. rec.frontcountry, really.

    I packed gear in the underseat panniers and rode the Tour Easy. I
    noticed the bike was making a creak/click with pedal rotation under
    load and tried to locate. Thought it might be from the crank. The bike
    has almost 9000 miles on it.

    Coming home Sunday, about three miles from home, as I tried to
    accelerate away from at stop light, I discovered the actual source of
    the sound: the middle front chainring tacoed. Turns out the was a
    crack in the chainring and under heavy preasure it finally gave way.
    I finished the ride in the big chainring.

    >> "Slurp" -- net.wolverine (weasel with attitude)

    >
    > Well weasels are merely geentic cousins.


    The largest terrestrial member of the family. Sea otters are
    bigger but not "badder". %^)

    >>"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]
    >>> No one, but no one, can troll the Great Ed Dolan.

    >
    > Just did.
    > No idea what makes you great.


    A legend in his own mind.

    >>> Apparently Meinecke stays current on this newsgroup although he never
    >>> makes any contributions to it anymore.

    >
    > So most net.unglates.


    I remain net.omnivorous. Selective.

    I have to go out of my way to see Mr. Ed's unoriginal content in its
    original form. A few weeks ago, he apparently claimed "net.fungus"
    as his species. Tinea cruris, according to someone who quoted his
    post.

    >>> Meinecke was one of the main things that was wrong with this group when
    >>> push came to shove. When a criminal vandal troll showed up here (Ed
    >>> Gin),
    >>> all he knew how to do was to run and hide like the cowardly weasel that
    >>> he
    >>> is. He does not have a clue about what destroyed this group. It takes
    >>> talent to be as dense as he ever proves himself to be. I attribute his
    >>> density to his Germanic racial traits.

    >
    > No context. No interest spark.
    > It's Usenet.


    "Shall we play a game?" - WOPR

    Dolan's game has convinced many subject matter experts that ARBR
    isn't worth their time. C'est la vie. What he imagines I have or have
    not done and what he projects of me by my surname is inconsequential.

    Jon Meinecke
    net.subtle-apteryx
     
  7. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Eugene Miya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> Jon Meinecke <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>The net.species in ARBR have certain peculiarities.... trolling
    >>>by disassociation from reality and projection is standard behavior
    >>>by a prolific, but lesser species there.

    >>
    >> Well every news group, mailing list, listserv, Wiki, etc. has a degree
    >> of this. A signature signal. Amuse yourself in alt.culture.alaska some
    >> time.

    >
    > Interestingly Floyd had his turn with Mr. Ed about 18 months ago.
    > In short order, Floyd made mincemeat of him without raising a sweat.
    > After Floyd ID'ed Ed's "raging bull" as "mooing cow mode...", here's
    > the best Ed could offer. Classic.


    I don't ever recall having any conversation with anyone name Eugene Miya
    before. The only Floyd I recall is some idiot from Barrow, Alaska who argued
    that the Eskimo was superior to the Norse because the Eskimo hunted the g.d.
    whale and was able to survive in the high arctic by doing so whereas the
    Norse chose not to do that and were therefore not able to survive - as no
    sensible human should ever want to do in the first place. Floyd was nothing
    but a freaking idiot for living in Barrow - a regular paradise on this earth
    no doubt! I think Floyd thought he was an Eskimo himself!

    > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/27fa342ff5a0e6ca?dmode=source


    Nope, I do not trust a cowardly weasel like Meinecke to ever go to a link of
    his. The rest of you do so at your peril.
    [...]

    > I have to go out of my way to see Mr. Ed's unoriginal content in its
    > original form. A few weeks ago, he apparently claimed "net.fungus"
    > as his species. Tinea cruris, according to someone who quoted his
    > post.


    This is what is wrong with a character like Meinecke. He has kill-filed me
    so he only sees what others' quote from my messages. This is fundamentally
    unfair to me, but what does Meinecke know of fairness. His hypocrisy is
    overwhelming. I read his messages as he writes them, but he does not do the
    same with me. Yet, he feels free to comment on me and my messages.

    Once you have kill-filed someone it is only fair that you no longer comment
    on whoever it is that you have kill-filed. However, since I have not
    kill-filed him and read all of his messages, I am perfectly free to comment
    on him and his messages. Kill-filers are the most incredibly stupid people
    in the world.

    >>>> Meinecke was one of the main things that was wrong with this group when
    >>>> push came to shove. When a criminal vandal troll showed up here (Ed
    >>>> Gin),
    >>>> all he knew how to do was to run and hide like the cowardly weasel that
    >>>> he
    >>>> is. He does not have a clue about what destroyed this group. It takes
    >>>> talent to be as dense as he ever proves himself to be. I attribute his
    >>>> density to his Germanic racial traits.

    >>
    >> No context. No interest spark.
    >> It's Usenet.

    >
    > "Shall we play a game?" - WOPR
    >
    > Dolan's game has convinced many subject matter experts that ARBR
    > isn't worth their time. C'est la vie. What he imagines I have or have
    > not done and what he projects of me by my surname is inconsequential.


    I am not imagining anything in connection with Meinecke. He pretended to
    have the best interests of ARBR at heart, but he proved to be nothing but a
    craven coward. Ed Gin said boo and Meinecke fainted dead away. His surname
    is mud as far as I am concerned.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     
  8. "Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >"Eugene Miya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> Jon Meinecke <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>The net.species in ARBR have certain peculiarities.... trolling
    >>>by disassociation from reality and projection is standard behavior
    >>>by a prolific, but lesser species there.

    >>
    >> Well every news group, mailing list, listserv, Wiki, etc. has a degree
    >> of this. A signature signal. Amuse yourself in alt.culture.alaska some
    >> time.

    >
    >Interestingly Floyd had his turn with Mr. Ed about 18 months ago.
    >In short order, Floyd made mincemeat of him without raising a sweat.
    >After Floyd ID'ed Ed's "raging bull" as "mooing cow mode...", here's
    >the best Ed could offer. Classic.
    >
    >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/27fa342ff5a0e6ca?dmode=source


    I'd forgotten that. Thanks for the reminder! Reading it again,
    just like when I wrote the article he responded to, had me just
    tied up with fits of laughter.

    Poor Ed had a bad day on that one. (Does he ever have a really
    good day though?)

    --
    Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
    Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [email protected]
     
  9. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Floyd L. Davidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    [...]
    >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/27fa342ff5a0e6ca?dmode=source

    >
    > I'd forgotten that. Thanks for the reminder! Reading it again,
    > just like when I wrote the article he responded to, had me just
    > tied up with fits of laughter.
    >
    > Poor Ed had a bad day on that one. (Does he ever have a really
    > good day though?)
    >
    > --
    > Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
    > Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [email protected]


    My God! We do not want this lunatic back in our sacred cycling precincts. If
    you listen to him you will end up in Barrow yourself hunting the g.d. whale
    and drinking yourself to death like the freaking Eskimos.

    I hear the high arctic is melting away due to global warming and that the
    polar bear will soon be extinct. Now if we could just figure out a way to
    make old Floyd extinct. How he can ride any kind of a bicycle in Barrow is
    one for the books. Do they even have any roads there?

    According to Floyd, we should all be taking our vacations in Barrow in
    January. There we would never see the sun, and enjoy 50 degrees below zero.
    The main thing we should take with us when we go there on our vacations is
    plenty of liquor so we can get as drunk as the natives. After all, when you
    are living that far north, you do not want to see, feel or hear anything -
    except maybe the beating of your own heart just to reassure you that you
    have not died and gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?

    As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for sissies.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     
  10. "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >My God! We do not want this lunatic back in our sacred cycling precincts. If
    >you listen to him you will end up in Barrow yourself hunting the g.d. whale
    >and drinking yourself to death like the freaking Eskimos.
    >
    >I hear the high arctic is melting away due to global warming and that the
    >polar bear will soon be extinct. Now if we could just figure out a way to
    >make old Floyd extinct. How he can ride any kind of a bicycle in Barrow is
    >one for the books. Do they even have any roads there?
    >
    >According to Floyd, we should all be taking our vacations in Barrow in
    >January. There we would never see the sun, and enjoy 50 degrees below zero.
    >The main thing we should take with us when we go there on our vacations is
    >plenty of liquor so we can get as drunk as the natives. After all, when you
    >are living that far north, you do not want to see, feel or hear anything -
    >except maybe the beating of your own heart just to reassure you that you
    >have not died and gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?
    >
    >As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    >this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    >go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for sissies.


    Ahem, it seems that in addition to being retarded, Mr. Dolan is a
    racist too.

    Not surprising, as the two go hand in hand often enough.

    --
    Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
    Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [email protected]
     
  11. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Floyd L. Davidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>My God! We do not want this lunatic back in our sacred cycling precincts.
    >>If
    >>you listen to him you will end up in Barrow yourself hunting the g.d.
    >>whale
    >>and drinking yourself to death like the freaking Eskimos.
    >>
    >>I hear the high arctic is melting away due to global warming and that the
    >>polar bear will soon be extinct. Now if we could just figure out a way to
    >>make old Floyd extinct. How he can ride any kind of a bicycle in Barrow is
    >>one for the books. Do they even have any roads there?
    >>
    >>According to Floyd, we should all be taking our vacations in Barrow in
    >>January. There we would never see the sun, and enjoy 50 degrees below
    >>zero.
    >>The main thing we should take with us when we go there on our vacations is
    >>plenty of liquor so we can get as drunk as the natives. After all, when
    >>you
    >>are living that far north, you do not want to see, feel or hear anything -
    >>except maybe the beating of your own heart just to reassure you that you
    >>have not died and gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?
    >>
    >>As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    >>this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    >>go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    >>sissies.

    >
    > Ahem, it seems that in addition to being retarded, Mr. Dolan is a
    > racist too.
    >
    > Not surprising, as the two go hand in hand often enough.


    I only know what I read in the liberal mass media about the Eskimo and his
    drunken ways. But are not all those people from Northeastern Siberia, which
    is also the home of all the original inhabitants of the Americas. DNA
    studies have conclusively proven that. In other words, they are all
    Mongoloids. Is Floyd also a Mongoloid or is he a Caucasoid? I don't think he
    is a Negroid as I doubt there are any Negroes stupid enough to be living in
    Barrow, Alaska. It takes a really dumb Caucasoid like Floyd to think that
    Barrow is a good place to settle down.

    But Hells Bells, I don't blame the Eskimo for being nothing but a drunken
    savage. If I had to live in that godforsaken land, that is what I would do
    too. I would just drink and drink until it killed me. Either that, or get
    the hell out of there. It is really very strange in this day and age that
    anyone would choose to live in such a frozen land. Floyd lives there because
    he is crazy, but surely not all Eskimos are crazy. They must know there is a
    better world for them to be living in than the high arctic.

    All this talk about drinking has made me thirsty. Please excuse me now while
    I hop on my trusty bike and make a run to the local liquor store to get some
    of my favorite vino. Just thinking about crazy Floyd there in frozen Barrow,
    Alaska, is enough to drive anyone to drink.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     
  12. Eugene Miya

    Eugene Miya Guest

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
    >My God! We do not want this lunatic back in our sacred cycling precincts. If
    >you listen to him you will end up in Barrow yourself hunting the g.d. whale
    >and drinking yourself to death like the freaking Eskimos.


    I ended up in Barrow 2 summers ago.
    The North Slope is a dry borough.

    >I hear the high arctic is melting away due to global warming and that the
    >polar bear will soon be extinct. Now if we could just figure out a way to
    >make old Floyd extinct. How he can ride any kind of a bicycle in Barrow is
    >one for the books. Do they even have any roads there?


    Oh sure. The roads are graded gravel. Ride a mtn. bike easily.


    >According to Floyd, we should all be taking our vacations in Barrow in
    >January. There we would never see the sun, and enjoy 50 degrees below zero.
    >The main thing we should take with us when we go there on our vacations is
    >plenty of liquor so we can get as drunk as the natives. After all, when you
    >are living that far north, you do not want to see, feel or hear anything -
    >except maybe the beating of your own heart just to reassure you that you
    >have not died and gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?


    Yep, I am trying to get on an ice coring expedition there.


    >As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    >this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    >go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for sissies.


    He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.
    Been there, done that.

    What's this got to do with bikes?

    --
     
  13. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Eugene Miya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:


    Newsgroups restored.

    >>My God! We do not want this lunatic back in our sacred cycling precincts.
    >>If
    >>you listen to him you will end up in Barrow yourself hunting the g.d.
    >>whale
    >>and drinking yourself to death like the freaking Eskimos.

    >
    > I ended up in Barrow 2 summers ago.
    > The North Slope is a dry borough.


    I spend many hours a day looking at PBS on TV and there are numerous
    programs that tell how the Eskimos (and the American Indian too) are into
    nothing but drinking themselves to death. I only have to go a few miles
    south to the Omaha and Winnebago Indian Reservations to see it for myself.
    However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want to
    drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible to
    go on living.

    >>I hear the high arctic is melting away due to global warming and that the
    >>polar bear will soon be extinct. Now if we could just figure out a way to
    >>make old Floyd extinct. How he can ride any kind of a bicycle in Barrow is
    >>one for the books. Do they even have any roads there?

    >
    > Oh sure. The roads are graded gravel. Ride a mtn. bike easily.


    I think old Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, has a Tour Easy recumbent, not an
    ideal bike for riding on gravel roads.

    >>According to Floyd, we should all be taking our vacations in Barrow in
    >>January. There we would never see the sun, and enjoy 50 degrees below
    >>zero.
    >>The main thing we should take with us when we go there on our vacations is
    >>plenty of liquor so we can get as drunk as the natives. After all, when
    >>you
    >>are living that far north, you do not want to see, feel or hear anything -
    >>except maybe the beating of your own heart just to reassure you that you
    >>have not died and gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?

    >
    > Yep, I am trying to get on an ice coring expedition there.


    You are welcome to the cold and dark Hell that is the high arctic. Be sure
    to go there in January. May you perish there of your stupidity - along with
    old Floyd of Barrow, Alaska!

    >>As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    >>this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    >>go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    >>sissies.

    >
    > He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.


    Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just as you
    would if you ventured to Antarctica.

    > Been there, done that.


    ???

    > What's this got to do with bikes?


    To stay strictly on the subject of bikes is the most boring thing in the
    universe. You proved that by answering my humble message. However, I do not
    know why you have cut the other newsgroups. They are all waiting with baited
    breath for my every word. Do you not have any idea at all how Great I am?

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     
  14. Eugene Miya

    Eugene Miya Guest

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Newsgroups restored.


    If you want.

    >> The North Slope is a dry borough.

    >
    >I spend many hours a day looking at PBS on TV and there are numerous
    >programs that tell how the Eskimos (and the American Indian too) are into
    >nothing but drinking themselves to death.


    I have met some of these Eskimos.
    I was sitting in an all you can eat crab feed in Los Anchorage killing
    time before a plane one winter when one such local decided to walk in
    and sit across from me at the table. He was far more pitiful than a
    real threat (unlike my old man).

    That does not mean that all of the Native-Americans are drunks.
    And they are also trying to do something about it.

    And I have been multiply mistaken as an Athebascan.

    >I only have to go a few miles
    >south to the Omaha and Winnebago Indian Reservations to see it for myself.


    Thousands don't drink.

    >However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want to
    >drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible to
    >go on living.


    I've had and have Irish girl friends. Still a culture I have to figure out.
    Well, you know if this were feudal Japan, and you wanted it,
    I'd pull out my sword and cut your head off in the Bells put
    you in that much pain.

    >> Oh sure. The roads are graded gravel. Ride a mtn. bike easily.

    >
    >I think old Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, has a Tour Easy recumbent, not an
    >ideal bike for riding on gravel roads.


    I only rode around with Floyd in a borrowed Suburban.

    I rejected a Tour Easy for a Rans Stratus minus the lower handle bars
    and the wind screen. I cna do those later if I want.

    >>>gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?

    >> Yep, I am trying to get on an ice coring expedition there.

    >
    >You are welcome to the cold and dark Hell that is the high arctic. Be sure
    >to go there in January. May you perish there of your stupidity - along with
    >old Floyd of Barrow, Alaska!


    I'd go in summer. Neat place.

    >>>As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    >>>this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    >>>go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    >>>sissies.

    >> He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.

    >
    >Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just as you
    >would if you ventured to Antarctica.


    Past tense?

    >> Been there, done that.

    >???


    I'm back. I even have the nod for solo travel there.
    Overflew the area of his body.
    That what does not kills us makes us stronger?
    That's a certain Western way of thinking.


    >> What's this got to do with bikes?

    >
    >To stay strictly on the subject of bikes is the most boring thing in the
    >universe. You proved that by answering my humble message. However, I do not
    >know why you have cut the other newsgroups. They are all waiting with baited
    >breath for my every word. Do you not have any idea at all how Great I am?


    Never heard of you.
    Do you know Andy Mickel? Now he is a good man in the Twin cities.
    The first sentence is somewhat correct.
    Is the 2nd really humble or shallow courtesy?
    I cut the other groups because they were not needed.

    >the Great - Minnesota


    Consider perhaps, less than great.

    Been to Minnesota.
    What are you drinking?

    --
     
  15. [email protected] (Eugene Miya) wrote:
    >In article <[email protected]>,
    >Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want to
    >>drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible to
    >>go on living.

    >
    >I've had and have Irish girl friends. Still a culture I have to figure out.


    An opportunity here, what with Edward Dolan providing an
    example! All the perspective needed is summed up in a nasty
    little joke:

    Q: Why did God make whiskey?
    A: It prevents the Irish from ruling the world.

    Applied to what Dolan writes, and it all becomes much easier to
    focus on what he is thinking.

    Of course, I'm sure Eugene already knows that, but I'll post
    it for anyone who has missed the point previously

    >Well, you know if this were feudal Japan, and you wanted it,
    >I'd pull out my sword and cut your head off in the Bells put
    >you in that much pain.


    Don't be giving anyone ideas...

    >>> Oh sure. The roads are graded gravel. Ride a mtn. bike easily.

    >>
    >>I think old Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, has a Tour Easy recumbent, not an
    >>ideal bike for riding on gravel roads.

    >
    >I only rode around with Floyd in a borrowed Suburban.


    Borrowed? (I don't loan it to anybody.)

    >I rejected a Tour Easy for a Rans Stratus minus the lower handle bars
    >and the wind screen. I cna do those later if I want.


    A feller here named Jim, who is a past mayor of Barrow (as is
    his wife), has a tandem recumbent, among others. The two of
    them, or Jim and his young son, cruise around town often on it.

    >What are you drinking?


    Eugene has Edward Dolan figured out...

    --
    Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
    Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [email protected]
     
  16. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Eugene Miya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]
    >>However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want
    >>to
    >>drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible
    >>to
    >>go on living.

    >
    > I've had and have Irish girl friends. Still a culture I have to figure
    > out. ....


    You cannot understand the Irish without being thoroughly grounded in the
    Roman Catholic Faith. The Irish, like the Poles, are ever faithful to the
    Roman Church and have been saddled with a clergy that was everything to
    them. However, when an Irish Catholic falls away from the Faith, then watch
    out as the Devil Himself is loose. But even a fallen-away Irish Catholic
    never completely escapes his childhood faith.
    [...]

    >>You are welcome to the cold and dark Hell that is the high arctic. Be sure
    >>to go there in January. May you perish there of your stupidity - along
    >>with
    >>old Floyd of Barrow, Alaska!

    >
    > I'd go in summer. Neat place.


    I think Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, lives in Barrow year-around. If you are
    only there in the summer, then you obviously are not as stupid as he is.
    Congratulations!

    >>>>As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary,
    >>>>"God,
    >>>>this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't
    >>>>you
    >>>>go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    >>>>sissies.
    >>> He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.

    >>
    >>Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just as
    >>you
    >>would if you ventured to Antarctica.

    >
    > Past tense?


    Nope, I wrote it correctly. I meant to imply that Scott was stupid to want
    to go to Antarctica in the first place. Anyone with any common sense could
    have told him that Antarctica was an "awful place."

    >>> Been there, done that.

    >>???

    >
    > I'm back. I even have the nod for solo travel there.
    > Overflew the area of his body.
    > That what does not kills us makes us stronger?
    > That's a certain Western way of thinking.


    Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Who not trek across
    Antarctica on foot?
    [...]

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     
  17. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Floyd L. Davidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    [...]
    > Eugene has Edward Dolan figured out...
    >
    > --
    > Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
    > Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [email protected]


    Eugene has some reflective qualities and is not as dense as Floyd. He also
    likes to contribute something to the group instead of just attacking all the
    time like Floyd. Floyd should take a few cues from Eugene and get with the
    program.

    I have severely criticized anyone who would freely choose to live in Barrow,
    Alaska, surely one of the sink holes of the world. Floyd needs to explain to
    the group what the hell it is that he does there in January, besides hunker
    down and drink like all the Eskimos and Indians (Athabascans) do. Minnesota
    is also the pits in the winter, but the North Slope of Alaska is infinitely
    worse. It is a cold and dark Hell there in January and anyone who says
    otherwise is a fool.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     
  18. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Eugene Miya" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >>>However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want to
    >>>drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible
    >>>to go on living.

    "Pitiful, pitiful" --Jed Clampett
    >> I've had and have Irish girl friends. Still a culture I have to figure
    >> out. ....

    >
    >You cannot understand the Irish without being thoroughly grounded in the
    >Roman Catholic Faith.


    Undoubtably true.
    Therefore the non-Catholic portions of the, Asia, Africa, the
    Middle-East, the Protestian parts need not attempt an otherwise
    impossible task for Crusaders to learn about opposition forces?

    >The Irish, like the Poles, are ever faithful to the
    >Roman Church and have been saddled with a clergy that was everything to
    >them. However, when an Irish Catholic falls away from the Faith, then
    >watch out as the Devil Himself is loose. But even a fallen-away Irish Catholic
    >never completely escapes his childhood faith.


    A Romantic sounding notion, but in the current Crusade, that likely will
    never cut it.

    >>>You are welcome to the cold and dark Hell that is the high arctic. Be sure
    >>>to go there in January. May you perish there of your stupidity - along
    >>>old Floyd of Barrow, Alaska!

    >> I'd go in summer. Neat place.

    >
    >I think Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, lives in Barrow year-around. If you
    >are only there in the summer, then you obviously are not as stupid as he is.


    I have visited Fairbanks friends in winter.
    Weather is no biggie to the prepared.

    >Congratulations!


    Thank you.
    But it's just travel.

    >>>>>As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary,
    >>>>>"God,
    >>>>>this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why
    >>>>>don't you
    >>>>>go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    >>>>>sissies.
    >>>> He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.
    >>>
    >>>Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just
    >>>as you would if you ventured to Antarctica.

    >>
    >> Past tense?

    >
    >Nope, I wrote it correctly. I meant to imply that Scott was stupid to
    >want to go to Antarctica in the first place. Anyone with any common sense
    >could have told him that Antarctica was an "awful place."


    I will repeat that the past tense was for the word "ventured."

    >>>> Been there, done that.
    >>>???

    >> I'm back. I even have the nod for solo travel there.
    >> Overflew the area of his body.
    >> That what does not kills us makes us stronger?
    >> That's a certain Western way of thinking.

    >
    >Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Who not trek across
    >Antarctica on foot?


    And I didn't?

    Better think again. Not just flying.
    All kinds of transport.


    >Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    >Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


    Sad statement.

    Great - Minnesota, a great state.

    --
     
  19. Edward Dolan

    Edward Dolan Guest

    "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> "Eugene Miya" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]

    [...]
    >>>>Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just
    >>>>as you would if you ventured to Antarctica.
    >>>
    >>> Past tense?

    >>
    >>Nope, I wrote it correctly. I meant to imply that Scott was stupid to
    >>want to go to Antarctica in the first place. Anyone with any common sense
    >>could have told him that Antarctica was an "awful place."

    >
    > I will repeat that the past tense was for the word "ventured."


    The words "would" and "if" makes what follows conditional. I wrote it
    correctly. I am almost never wrong about these sort of things.

    >>>>> Been there, done that.
    >>>>???
    >>> I'm back. I even have the nod for solo travel there.
    >>> Overflew the area of his body.
    >>> That what does not kills us makes us stronger?
    >>> That's a certain Western way of thinking.

    >>
    >>Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Why not trek across
    >>Antarctica on foot?

    >
    > And I didn't?
    >
    > Better think again. Not just flying.
    > All kinds of transport.


    There is no way this idiot trekked across Antarctica. If he had, he would do
    more than just mention it.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
     
  20. Eugene Miya

    Eugene Miya Guest

    >>>>>as you would if you ventured to Antarctica.
    >>>> Past tense?
    >>>Nope, I wrote it correctly. I meant to imply that Scott was stupid to
    >>>want to go to Antarctica in the first place. Anyone with any common sense
    >>>could have told him that Antarctica was an "awful place."

    >> I will repeat that the past tense was for the word "ventured."


    In article <[email protected]>,
    Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
    >The words "would" and "if" makes what follows conditional. I wrote it
    >correctly. I am almost never wrong about these sort of things.


    Better consider yourself wrong.
    BTW, the good book Uncommon Sense by Cromer was published the year I was
    in the Antarctic.

    >>>Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Why not trek across
    >>>Antarctica on foot?

    >> And I didn't?
    >> Better think again. Not just flying.
    >> All kinds of transport.

    >
    >There is no way this idiot trekked across Antarctica. If he had, he would do
    >more than just mention it.


    You have a very limited, very media biased view of the Antarctic.
    Yep, computer people get to the Antarctic.
    And I did it on you tax dollar.

    People have unicycled around the South Pole.
    There are bikes in McMurdo and elsewhere.

    --
     
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