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Scott
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Gord vs Mario in Georgia. Interesting.
I'm afraid to make the call. There's a good possibility that
there will be someone else entirely who will shine, as Mario
is off his highs, and I'm not sure Gord is at that level. At
his prime I would take Mario. What other good Euro sprinters
are coming?
One thing to consider: Gord's HealthNet leadout this year
*sucks*. That doesn't hurt him in NCL races where he's
strong enough to jump around and still win, but he won't
have that luxury here.
Should be good TV.
Scott
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Gord vs Mario in Georgia. Interesting.
I'm afraid to make the call. There's a good possibility that
there will be someone else entirely who will shine, as Mario
is off his highs, and I'm not sure Gord is at that level. At
his prime I would take Mario. What other good Euro sprinters
are coming?
One thing to consider: Gord's HealthNet leadout this year
*sucks*. That doesn't hurt him in NCL races where he's
strong enough to jump around and still win, but he won't
have that luxury here.
Should be good TV.
Scott
I understand the Cipo had a bad season last year, but really not that bad. I mean yeah he lost to Petachi, but so did everyone else. If you look at the Giro and TDF sprints you will see that Cipo when he was in early form was aboust as close to Petachi as anyone would ever get. Zabel did pretty good as well. Furthermore, Cipo has a serious race schedule this year. He is racing the Giro and he has promised to finish the tour. Given that schedule I would actually think that he is in decent shape, and claiming that Fraser is anything near the top echelon of D I sprinters is pretty ridiculous. I am not guarenteeing a victory, but if Cipo gets to the line then expect him to win with ease.
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Bob Schwartz
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lazysegall <[email protected]> wrote:
> He is racing the Giro and he has promised to finish
> the tour.
Cipo will not finish the Tour.
Bob "Not really taking a chance here" Schwartz
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> He is racing the Giro and he has promised to finish
> the tour.
Cipo will not finish the Tour.
Bob "Not really taking a chance here" Schwartz
[email protected]
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Faster Bordello
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> One thing to consider: Gord's HealthNet leadout this year *sucks*.
Mario is bringing to leadout that all others wish they could
be... Lombardi, Sciera & co. Oh and Clinger is comng for
GC...... ?:|
Saeco is hooking up with Duval, so they aren't sending any
real power. Who's Duvals sprinter? CSC rounds out the Euro's
and they aren't really a sprinters team.....
Mario is bringing to leadout that all others wish they could
be... Lombardi, Sciera & co. Oh and Clinger is comng for
GC...... ?:|
Saeco is hooking up with Duval, so they aren't sending any
real power. Who's Duvals sprinter? CSC rounds out the Euro's
and they aren't really a sprinters team.....
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Ronde Chumpion
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lazysegall (wrote in message: blah,blah,blah)
> I understand the Cipo had a bad season last year, but
> really not that bad.
It WAS bad. He DISGRACED the World Champion's Jersey.
Started about 20 days, and maybe won twice.
I mean yeah he lost to Petachi, but so did everyone else.
???
If you look at the Giro and TDF sprints you will see that
Cipo when he was in
> early form was aboust as close to Petachi as anyone would
> ever get.
His form during the Tour de France was on a beach. Hasn't
raced it since 1999.
> Furthermore, Cipo has a serious race schedule this
> year. He is racing the Giro and he has promised to
> finish the tour.
I am shaking. WOW! He has a 'serious' schedule this year. We
why didn't you just say that from the start. I do apologize.
No, I take that back. You really should lurk a little
longer. You're not ready to be heard from here in RBR. Mario
will NOT finish the Tour de France in 2004. Try to
understand what I just wrote.
Given that schedule I would actually think that he is in
> decent shape, and claiming that Fraser is anything near
> the top echelon of D I sprinters is pretty ridiculous.
Oh. yeah. Getting dropped with the second group in Milan-San
Remo 2004 is in decent shape. Or maybe getting dropped on a
15 meter rise in Macon, GA on April 20th, 2004, with 3k to
go in a 130k stage, when 70 no-hope US riders made it just
fine. He is right on target for the Giro start in two weeks.
BTW, Petachii sp? is already winning races. Garzelli will
pound the big talker Simoni for the Maglia Rosa, and
Petacchii will deny Mario his all time stage record.
I am not guarenteeing a victory,
> but if Cipo gets to the line then expect him to win
> with ease.
If Nelson Vails got to the line, he'd win too. Isn't that
the point. You do the distance, and you win the sprint. Why
should Gord be penalized because Mario is so out of shape,
he can't be competitive?
Mario looks like any pan-handler on the west side of
Oakland, CA. What a bum
Please consider what I suggested to you for awhile.
Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
> I understand the Cipo had a bad season last year, but
> really not that bad.
It WAS bad. He DISGRACED the World Champion's Jersey.
Started about 20 days, and maybe won twice.
I mean yeah he lost to Petachi, but so did everyone else.
???
If you look at the Giro and TDF sprints you will see that
Cipo when he was in
> early form was aboust as close to Petachi as anyone would
> ever get.
His form during the Tour de France was on a beach. Hasn't
raced it since 1999.
> Furthermore, Cipo has a serious race schedule this
> year. He is racing the Giro and he has promised to
> finish the tour.
I am shaking. WOW! He has a 'serious' schedule this year. We
why didn't you just say that from the start. I do apologize.
No, I take that back. You really should lurk a little
longer. You're not ready to be heard from here in RBR. Mario
will NOT finish the Tour de France in 2004. Try to
understand what I just wrote.
Given that schedule I would actually think that he is in
> decent shape, and claiming that Fraser is anything near
> the top echelon of D I sprinters is pretty ridiculous.
Oh. yeah. Getting dropped with the second group in Milan-San
Remo 2004 is in decent shape. Or maybe getting dropped on a
15 meter rise in Macon, GA on April 20th, 2004, with 3k to
go in a 130k stage, when 70 no-hope US riders made it just
fine. He is right on target for the Giro start in two weeks.
BTW, Petachii sp? is already winning races. Garzelli will
pound the big talker Simoni for the Maglia Rosa, and
Petacchii will deny Mario his all time stage record.
I am not guarenteeing a victory,
> but if Cipo gets to the line then expect him to win
> with ease.
If Nelson Vails got to the line, he'd win too. Isn't that
the point. You do the distance, and you win the sprint. Why
should Gord be penalized because Mario is so out of shape,
he can't be competitive?
Mario looks like any pan-handler on the west side of
Oakland, CA. What a bum
Please consider what I suggested to you for awhile.
Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
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Steven L. Sheff
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On 04/20/2004 11:56 PM, in article
[email protected], "ronde chumpion"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Petacchii will deny Mario his all time stage record.
Cipo already holds the all time stage record at the Giro ...
He set it just one day after tying the record in 2003.
From http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/giro03/?id=resu-
lts/stage9
On the day when World Champion Mario Cipollini learned of
his unexpected exclusion from the Tour de France before the
stage, SuperMario showed just how super he still is, turning
a "giornata brutta" into a "bellissima momento". Cipollini
decisively won his second consecutive Giro stage ahead of a
fast-closing Robbie McEwen, and even if he was dissed again
by the French, with his 185th career win, Cipollini has now
established a new stage win record for the Giro d'Italia of
42 victories, finally beating Alfredo Binda's record in
front of a huge home crowd of his Tuscan tifosi.
--
Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
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[email protected], "ronde chumpion"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Petacchii will deny Mario his all time stage record.
Cipo already holds the all time stage record at the Giro ...
He set it just one day after tying the record in 2003.
From http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/giro03/?id=resu-
lts/stage9
On the day when World Champion Mario Cipollini learned of
his unexpected exclusion from the Tour de France before the
stage, SuperMario showed just how super he still is, turning
a "giornata brutta" into a "bellissima momento". Cipollini
decisively won his second consecutive Giro stage ahead of a
fast-closing Robbie McEwen, and even if he was dissed again
by the French, with his 185th career win, Cipollini has now
established a new stage win record for the Giro d'Italia of
42 victories, finally beating Alfredo Binda's record in
front of a huge home crowd of his Tuscan tifosi.
--
Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
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Evan Evans
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I was there! Mario wasn't dropped on any climb! There was a
crach that delayed many riders on the final lap but Chipo
was not one of them.
crach that delayed many riders on the final lap but Chipo
was not one of them.
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