Like the Stewie.bobbyOCR said:whoah, they don't * out language.
At the end of the day, it'll still be a trek.
Like the Stewie.bobbyOCR said:whoah, they don't * out language.
At the end of the day, it'll still be a trek.
rudycyclist said:Trek still makes very quality bikes. Now they are breaking out and doing something most other North American manufacturers wouldn't dare to do. Plus, these machines are extremely stiff and strong at a very affordable price. The seatmast they have now is so much nicer than all the other fully integrated seatposts in that you don't have to CUT the entire seatpost just to change seat height.
Not heard of Guerciotti? Sheesh, where do you live? Boston, or Seattle?formernoreasta said:At least in the Seattle area, there seems to be a fetish for oscure bikes. You know, some Italian make no one's heard of, etc. Actually, this was true in Boston too.
I used to have a Guerciotti. That would have been perfect. It's all kind of silly.
Stiffness makes a frame feel better, not necessarily perform better. Good headtube and massive BB stiffness means that SL01 feels rock-solid through any bend. Then out of the saddle it feels snappy. I'm not gaining any performance benefit, in fact I am probably losing comfort, but it feels great to ride.alienator said:As for stiffness, that's a non-issue. Completely. I'm still waiting for someone to provide evidence that stiffness has any meaningful benefit to bicycle performance.
The bike is only revolutionary in terms of Trek, not in terms of bicycles in general.
You can't really say Trek is taking ideas away from Klein, seeing as how Klein is owned, operated, and manufactured by Trek...bobbyOCR said:1.125-1.5 forks are from Ridley (and a host of other previous manufacturers. Klein I think as well)
bobbyOCR said:Stiffness makes a frame feel better, not necessarily perform better. Good headtube and massive BB stiffness means that SL01 feels rock-solid through any bend. Then out of the saddle it feels snappy. I'm not gaining any performance benefit, in fact I am probably losing comfort, but it feels great to ride.
bobbyOCR said:Apart from that, nothign really stands out. I'm sure it performs well, but there are better looking, better performaing frams out tere that you can actually customise. I wouldn't want to be stuck with the same everything.
And for god sake I hope they aren't still plastering '7 time tour winner' on all their bikes.
So who decided that bontrager parts are ****? Have you ever ridden any of their products? I've been able to ride on a ton of different bontrager parts ranging from the low level select and sport lines up to the top of the line *** lite line, and never had any problems with anything. I currently have a *** lite carbon stem and x lite carbon bars on my bike and they are MUCH stiffer than the Ritchey Pro bars and stem I had on before.bobbyOCR said:yes you can.
no replaceable derailleur hanger.
proprietary everything.
stock bontrager ****.
they look less interesting than a brick wall (they have improved this)
though they fixed their head tube
so that gets them a little extra respect.
ToffoIsMe said:So who decided that bontrager parts are ****? Have you ever ridden any of their products? I've been able to ride on a ton of different bontrager parts ranging from the low level select and sport lines up to the top of the line *** lite line, and never had any problems with anything. I currently have a *** lite carbon stem and x lite carbon bars on my bike and they are MUCH stiffer than the Ritchey Pro bars and stem I had on before.
Try this one on-bontrager carbon stems and bars are made in the same factory, with the same molds, and the same carbon as the zipp carbon bars and stem and are cheaper than the zipp branded ones. Of course this doesnt matter because bontrager parts suck, so you would probably rather have the zipp branded stuff, right?
ToffoIsMe said:You can't really say Trek is taking ideas away from Klein, seeing as how Klein is owned, operated, and manufactured by Trek...
How do you have any basis to form the fact that Specialized has some of the highest technology going? Ohh! Did you read from there website? Bit odd when essentially every company is saying the same thing, hmm? Except LOOK bikes, they don't count. They cute.mongooseboy said:Specialized has some of the highest technology going i believe...Lateral stiffness far exceeds most bikes (if not all?) out there.
Of course i just ride a lowly Allez triple, so what would i know? hey im never gonna be a racer, it works GREAT for me
The day Bobby stops telling us about his SL01 will be the day the sky falls in!Tim Lamkin said:,...your opinion.
But that is just because it is so incredibly goodartemidorus said:The day Bobby stops telling us about his SL01 will be the day the sky falls in!
i love mine... one day when im rich ill get an SLT01bobbyOCR said:But that is just because it is so incredibly good
and much cooler than Trek.
I'm not too familiar with any of specialized's road bikes, but I know in the bmx world, anything that says s-works on it is rediculously over-priced and over-advertised, and gauranteed to fail at least twice as fast as the competing frames. If specialized's road bikes are anything similar, than comparing the SL01 to an s-works bike isn't saying much.bobbyOCR said:You also know what's great. The SL01, size 58cm, traditional geometry, is laterally stiffer than a Tarmac S-Works with its compact geometry (48 c-top of top tube vs ~57 c-t on an SL01. Same size TT) by around 5%.
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