suspected bike thief??

Discussion in 'Australia and New Zealand' started by #215, Jun 16, 2003.

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  1. #215

    #215 Guest

    It seems there are alot of bikes being reported stolen lately :(

    One guy I have noticed a few times in the Melb cbd had me thinking. He commutes daily it seems in
    jeans, runners and a back pack. BUT he rides a new Once carbon giant with record! Looks seriously
    out of place! Last time I checked these were limited with a hefty price. I'm thinking this is where
    some of our beloved bikes disapear too. opinions??
     
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  2. Andy Simpson

    Andy Simpson Guest

    "#215" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > It seems there are alot of bikes being reported stolen lately :(
    >
    > One guy I have noticed a few times in the Melb cbd had me thinking. He commutes daily it seems in
    > jeans, runners and a back pack. BUT he rides a new Once carbon giant with record! Looks seriously
    > out of place! Last
    time
    > I checked these were limited with a hefty price. I'm thinking this is
    where
    > some of our beloved bikes disapear too. opinions??
    >

    Strange you should say this today. I saw a guy riding some kind of black road bike (Avanti I think)
    with flash wheels, time-trial bars and road pedals this morning. He was wearing jogging shoes and
    jeans and looked to be crossing the road to get to ride on the footpath. The same thoughts went
    through my mind as yours. Anyone in Sydney lost such a bike ? (Apologies if I'm doing jeans guy a
    gross injustice).

    Andy
     
  3. Mike Doyle

    Mike Doyle Guest

    yah, tell the entire world you think this guy is a their cause you think he looks like he can't
    afford to ride that bike. And then appologise on the off chance you are wrong.

    What is WRONG with you?

    Mike

    Andy Simpson wrote:
    > through my mind as yours. Anyone in Sydney lost such a bike ? (Apologies if I'm doing jeans guy a
    > gross injustice).
     
  4. Mike Doyle

    Mike Doyle Guest

    "thief", not "Their"

    Mike Mike Doyle wrote:
    > yah, tell the entire world you think this guy is a their cause you think he looks like he can't
    > afford to ride that bike. And then appologise on the off chance you are wrong.
     
  5. Twisties

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    but the fact that he wasnt riding it the next day is weird dont u think. there COULD be a perfectly good explination, BUT what if it WAS stolen?

    its good that people are actually trying to help, rather than think nothing of it.
     
  6. Hippy

    Hippy Guest

    "Twisties" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > but the fact that he wasnt riding it the next day is weird dont u
    think.
    > there COULD be a perfectly good explination, BUT what if it WAS
    stolen?

    Just to allay some fears.. I have often been known to ride my $3K+ road bike wearing anything from
    full race kit to jeans, shorts, tee shirt, work boots, thongs, etc. I have also been known to ride
    it on the footpath (but don't tell anyone this.. ;-)).

    Some people don't give a rats about what they wear but own a nice bike.

    ciao hippy
     
  7. Ahmed

    Ahmed Guest

    HeHe! Sometimes I wear jeans when I am riding, too...I guess you can compare me to Pamela Anderson
    wearing high heels when rock climbling..:)

    It is kinda hard to suspect a thief if they look out of character, because many newbies seem to have
    very good bikes, too. But, I guess if I saw a large man riding a BMX, then I would be suspicious -
    especially if he falls off the bike after taking an ordinary corner..:)

    Seriously though, since a lot of buildings around the Melbourne CBD now have security cameras, I
    wonder if these store owners (or counsel) would be kind enough to show you the security tapes? If
    there are no cameras, then perhaps we should pester the Melbourne counsel to install more cameras?

    I go now...

    a.

    "#215" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > It seems there are alot of bikes being reported stolen lately :(
    >
    > One guy I have noticed a few times in the Melb cbd had me thinking. He commutes daily it seems in
    > jeans, runners and a back pack. BUT he rides a new Once carbon giant with record! Looks seriously
    > out of place! Last
    time
    > I checked these were limited with a hefty price. I'm thinking this is
    where
    > some of our beloved bikes disapear too. opinions??
     
  8. Suzy Jackson

    Suzy Jackson Guest

    "#215" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > It seems there are alot of bikes being reported stolen lately :(
    >
    > One guy I have noticed a few times in the Melb cbd had me thinking. He commutes daily it seems in
    > jeans, runners and a back pack. BUT he rides a new Once carbon giant with record! Looks seriously
    > out of place! Last time I checked these were limited with a hefty price. I'm thinking this is
    > where some of our beloved bikes disapear too. opinions??

    Perhaps he doesn't have anywhere to change at his work/school/whatever. Not all of us are blessed
    with somewhere to shower and change, nor with somewhere to stash their bike clothes. When I was at
    uni it was next to impossible to get a locker, so I simply sat through lectures and tutes in bike
    shorts and bare feet, with my bike shoes sitting on the floor under my seat.

    And besides, what's wrong with commuting on a race bike anyway? I commute on my race bike (a
    Colnago), and simply carry a spare set of clothes in a backpack. Does this mean I stole my bike? It
    certainly didn't seem like a steal to me. My credit card still carries the bruises, and the owner of
    my local bike shop greets me by name whenever I come in.

    Looking around at the bikes at club racing on a Saturday afternoon, you can tell the people who are
    really fast. They ride the thrashed bikes, those which look like they've done a few tens of
    thousand kilometers and been thrown down the road a few times to boot. Not that they haven't been
    cared for, because they have. They've just seen a lot of use. Perhaps these people also commute on
    their race bikes?

    Regards,

    Suzy
     
  9. Whilst rampantly masturbating, on Tue, 17 Jun 2003
    13:47:07 +1000, Mike Doyle <[email protected]> wrote:

    >yah, tell the entire world you think this guy is a their cause you think he looks like he can't
    >afford to ride that bike. And then appologise on the off chance you are wrong.
    >
    >What is WRONG with you?
    >
    >Mike
    >

    Well said, Mike. WTF is wrong with these people. "That guy doesn't "look" like a bike rider....he
    must have stolen that bike...." That's gotta be the most ridiculous thing I've heard in this group.
    And that's saying something! Dickheads....

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  10. Andy Simpson

    Andy Simpson Guest

    "Mike Doyle" <[email protected]> raged in message
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    > yah, tell the entire world you think this guy is a their cause you think he looks like he can't
    > afford to ride that bike. And then appologise on the off chance you are wrong.
    >
    > What is WRONG with you?
    >

    I didn't mention how much I thought the guy could afford, you invented that.

    I pointed out that he was dressed entirely inappropriately - riding on a road bike wearing jeans and
    running shoes (probably cost about the same as knicks and cycling shoes, for those with an economic
    fixation).

    I was wrong to ask if anyone had lost such a bike as that clearly implies that I thought it was
    definitely nicked, whereas it was just one explanation that crossed my mind. The post was prompted
    by "#215" saying that he'd thought the same thing. So, to the "entire world" - I'm sorry I phrased
    that so badly.

    Next time I see the jeans-bike guy I'll ask him why he spurns traditional cycling apparel.

    Andy
     
  11. Mike Doyle

    Mike Doyle Guest

    My post was aimed at both yourself, and your parent post.

    Perhaps you did only mean to say that someone wearing jeans wouldn't own such an expensive bike,
    but both your post, and the parent post were less then clear on that point. Your intentions may
    have been innocent, but I it hard to believe that the parent post was so (which you seemed to
    agree with).

    Never-the-less, no matter how innocent you or the parent post may have been, much care is needed
    before posting comments that may be taken the wrong way. And it is hard to say "I thought he was a
    thief" without it being taken the wrong way!

    Mike

    Andy Simpson wrote:
    > "Mike Doyle" <[email protected]> raged in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    > I didn't mention how much I thought the guy could afford, you invented that.
    >
    > I pointed out that he was dressed entirely inappropriately - riding on a road bike wearing jeans
    > and running shoes (probably cost about the same as knicks and cycling shoes, for those with an
    > economic fixation).
    >
    > I was wrong to ask if anyone had lost such a bike as that clearly implies that I thought it was
    > definitely nicked, whereas it was just one explanation that crossed my mind. The post was prompted
    > by "#215" saying that he'd thought the same thing. So, to the "entire world" - I'm sorry I phrased
    > that so badly.
    >
    > Next time I see the jeans-bike guy I'll ask him why he spurns traditional cycling apparel.
    >
    > Andy
     
  12. Andy Simpson

    Andy Simpson Guest

    "Mike Doyle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > My post was aimed at both yourself, and your parent post.
    >
    > Perhaps you did only mean to say that someone wearing jeans wouldn't own such an expensive bike,
    > but both your post, and the parent post were less then clear on that point. Your intentions may
    > have been innocent, but I it hard to believe that the parent post was so (which you seemed to
    > agree with).
    >
    > Never-the-less, no matter how innocent you or the parent post may have been, much care is needed
    > before posting comments that may be taken the wrong way. And it is hard to say "I thought he was a
    > thief" without it being taken the wrong way!
    >
    > Mike

    Yep, I was very slack. Thank you for your guidance.

    Andy
     
  13. Come on Mike, get off your PC high horse. The guy is allowed to be suspicious. He may be wrong, but
    sometimes it's worth questioning.

    I live in Redfern, and sometimes I see one of the brothers riding an expensive bike wearing just a
    singlet, shorts and thongs. Sometimes they offer to sell these bikes to me for ludicrously low
    prices. I think the bikes may be stolen. But hey, in Mike World, I shouldn't think such things, I
    should just assume these kids are too young to know a full suspension Kona is worth more than the
    $300 they wanted.
     
  14. Mike Doyle

    Mike Doyle Guest

    There is a very big difference between riding an expensive bike in jeans, and riding an expensive
    bike in jeans and offering to sell it to you for $300.

    Other people who replied seem to think riding an expensive bike in jeans is perfectly acceptable.

    Sure, there are times to be suspicious, but be careful with your accusations.

    Mike

    Luther Blissett wrote:
    > Come on Mike, get off your PC high horse. The guy is allowed to be suspicious. He may be wrong,
    > but sometimes it's worth questioning.
    >
    > I live in Redfern, and sometimes I see one of the brothers riding an expensive bike wearing just a
    > singlet, shorts and thongs. Sometimes they offer to sell these bikes to me for ludicrously low
    > prices. I think the bikes may be stolen. But hey, in Mike World, I shouldn't think such things, I
    > should just assume these kids are too young to know a full suspension Kona is worth more than the
    > $300 they wanted.
     
  15. Chris Baird

    Chris Baird Guest

    > There is a very big difference between riding an expensive bike in jeans, and riding an expensive
    > bike in jeans and offering to sell it to you for $300.

    ..and don't forget the coat of house-paint, so people won't be able to tell that it's stolen...

    I recovered one of my bikes that way-- it was a fairly generic roadie, but the paint gave me enough
    suspicion (above other similarities) to jump over the fence and quickly check the serial number.
    It's nice when you can get a bike thief in the shit.. (Although I heard the perp was under 16, and I
    had moved up to Queensland before anything happened.)

    --
    Chris,,
     
  16. Rman

    Rman Guest

    "Chris Baird" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > > There is a very big difference between riding an expensive bike in
    > > jeans, and riding an expensive bike in jeans and offering to sell it to you for $300.
    >
    > ..and don't forget the coat of house-paint, so people won't be able to tell that it's stolen...
    >
    > I recovered one of my bikes that way-- it was a fairly generic roadie, but the paint gave me
    > enough suspicion (above other similarities) to jump over the fence and quickly check the serial
    > number. It's nice when you can get a bike thief in the shit.. (Although I heard the perp was under
    > 16, and I had moved up to Queensland before anything happened.)
    >

    Years ago, when I was a wee little boy scout we went to the local police stations for a field trip.
    Down in the basement, the cop showed us a cage full of unclaimed lost/stolen/recovered bikes. "Off
    ya go boys" he said, "take a your pick".

    Got me a nice dragster converted to a BMX with tuffs and Tange forks with a double goose neck head
    stem........
     
  17. Twisties

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    sooo luther,

    ummm do u reckon you could give me the address of these kids with the kona?:p
     
  18. Andrew Swan

    Andrew Swan Guest

    > ... the cop showed us a cage full of unclaimed lost/stolen/recovered bikes. "Off ya go boys" he
    > said, "take a your pick".

    Was he Italian? :)

    &roo
     
  19. John L

    John L Guest

    Sigh. Where is Jose when you Really need him :)

    John L.

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:22:25 +1000, Mike Doyle <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >There is a very big difference between riding an expensive bike in jeans, and riding an expensive
    >bike in jeans and offering to sell it to you for $300.
    >
    >Other people who replied seem to think riding an expensive bike in jeans is perfectly acceptable.
    >
    >Sure, there are times to be suspicious, but be careful with your accusations.
    >
    >Mike
    >
    >Luther Blissett wrote:
    >> Come on Mike, get off your PC high horse. The guy is allowed to be suspicious. He may be wrong,
    >> but sometimes it's worth questioning.
    >>
    >> I live in Redfern, and sometimes I see one of the brothers riding an expensive bike wearing just
    >> a singlet, shorts and thongs. Sometimes they offer to sell these bikes to me for ludicrously low
    >> prices. I think the bikes may be stolen. But hey, in Mike World, I shouldn't think such things, I
    >> should just assume these kids are too young to know a full suspension Kona is worth more than the
    >> $300 they wanted.
     
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