They claim their product measures EPOC, VO2, EE, RespR, VE with a wristop device and a belt. Has anyone tried it?
www.suuntot6.com
www.suuntot6.com
gruppo said:Well, better late than never, I guess.
I finally decided to try this watch and I am VERY impressed! It is a great watch -- very user friendly to use, and the PC software is great. The whole system worked flawlessly right out of the box.
I am still learning and doing some research about EPOC, its usefulness and validity, but from what I have seen, I am sure glad I took the plunge and bought it.
tommyekblom said:
gruppo said:I bought it from www.backcountry.com for $449 US.
I am still learning the software, but so far it has worked exactly as described.
tommyekblom said:Out of stock... like in most places. Damn, I want one!
vitiris said:Got this of a site called joereger.com and he puts the question much better than I could!
It would be easy for Suunto to verify the accuracy of their VO2 and respiration figures by doing a lab test, do you know if this has been done? I am sure there are a number of people like me who would consider buying one if they were certain of the accuracy of the data
Sean
vitiris said:It would be easy for Suunto to verify the accuracy of their VO2 and respiration figures by doing a lab test, do you know if this has been done? I am sure there are a number of people like me who would consider buying one if they were certain of the accuracy of the data
Sean
beerco said:When they do though, the standard deviation will tell you if it's worth while or not. e.g. when comparing HR to power at a high level (i.e. thousands of sample points) HR tracks power very well. However it can be way off (20%) for any single comparison. This is what makes training by power so much superior to training by HR.
vitiris said:I am not debating the benefits of training with power but wouldn't you like to have an accurate method of measuring your VO2 max? After all it's that which basically tells you what you will be capable of after all the power training!
Sean
vitiris said:I am not debating the benefits of training with power but wouldn't you like to have an accurate method of measuring your VO2 max? After all it's that which basically tells you what you will be capable of after all the power training!
Sean
vitiris said:Got this of a site called joereger.com and he puts the question much better than I could!
"Where they go off the deepend is with their claims of VO2 analysis. They claim to be able to tell me how much oxygen I'm using. And hor much respiration I'm doing. The pic of the Suunto T6 has a little gizmo coming out of it that looks like a pulse oximeter, but I doubt it is. Pulse oximeters have become critical to what anestesiologists do. Around the year 2000 I read reports of them putting one on Everest climbers. I can't help believe that this sort of data would be helpful to training. That said, I think that Suunto is not measuring directly... they're calculating off of heart rate. I come to this conclusion in two ways. First, they never say that they have a sensor to measure it directly. If they did I have to believe they'd mention it... it'd be new and novel. Second, they put up some scientific references that point to heart-rate-based inferrence of VO2 data. Their marketing materials are slick... almost too slick. And they oversimplify the training process into nice little "overtrained" and "undertrained" columns. While the data sounds nice, I'm skeptical on this thing. It looks like they're taking some base heart rate data and wrapping it with a lot of mathematical equations and fancy user interface."
It would be easy for Suunto to verify the accuracy of their VO2 and respiration figures by doing a lab test, do you know if this has been done? I am sure there are a number of people like me who would consider buying one if they were certain of the accuracy of the data
Sean
tommyekblom said:Do you understand these researches?
www.firstbeattechnologies.com
--> Research background
Suunto says the product is based on these.
Please let me know.
Tom
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