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> "Kiem Madvanen" <
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> > "Danny Callen" <
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> > > I now drive an Acura MDX which gets 25 MPG and is an "Ultra Low Emission Vehicle".
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> > 17/23 MPG EPA (from Acura web site)
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> > I have yet to meet an SUV owner who doesn't overstate MPG.
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> > Zub
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> Would you like to try to explain how those numbers are calculated and maybe give us all a class on
> statistics? I assume the statiscal yield for the Acura MDX gives an average of 23/17 as listed on
> the specs and stricker. However, I can get 23 MPG on the interstate at 85 MPH. I average about 22
> combined including stop and go traffic, city driving, and highway. How do I know? I have an on
> board computer which calculates the MPG and have checked it more than once with hand calculations.
> My wife has a Mini Van and I blow her away on MPG. It's called an excellent design.
>
Your MDX may get fairly decent mileage, but the majority of SUVs really don't. Certainly the
Expeditions, HumVees and the rest like them don't. Hondas have always been pretty well thought
out and gotten good mileage.
> The bottom line is that the article is written by an ignorant liberal who has an agenda. (No I'm
> not saying all liberals are ignorant). People who buy into emotional feelings by those that
> manipulate data to drive a cause are ignorant of the real facts. If you care to be one of the
> manipulated, enjoy. I will continue to use fact in my decsions.
Isn't "marketing" another way of saying "manipulation of data"? There is a book out on this (the
SUV thing, that is), and the author got info from the NHTSB and various states. It showed that
they are not safer to themselves or other vehicles. There are more roll-overs (many from what
they called "tripping" - hitting a curb or bump while turning, resulting in the SUV going over),
and also a far higher percentage of serious neck injuries. A car being hit by a heavier and
generally higher SUV reieved much more damage than if it was hit by another car.
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> BTW, I can't help that there are a large majority of SUV's in the US. It's called "choice". I
> chose to spend the extra $$ to get an SUV that has incredible specifications including MPG. Your
> beat up old untuned jalopy has a much greater environmental impact than my clean running SUV.
> When the statistical numbers are high (ie: large number of SUV's on the road), the attention by
> those against them is drawn. The large numbers of SUVs sold in the US also disproves the idiotic
> article. I guess a large percentage of Americans are just as the article states. It makes no
> sense folks..
>
> Danny Callen
The large numbers of SUVs sold in the US certainly says that the manufacturers have learned their
marketing lessons. Most of the mid-size and large SUVs are based on an existing truck platform.
They add $2000 to $2500 of extra bodywork and interior bits, generally spruce the thing up and
then they can sell them for $5000 to $10000 more than the original platform. GM and Ford do make
a lot of money on their SUVs because of this. So it is in their interest to push them in the
market. Your MDX is an exception to the general rule re: SUVs. But it's based, I believe, on the
Honda Odysey minivan.
That is all...
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tanx, Howard
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, k?
For some people, quantity IS quality...