You know, I hate to lump him in there with the rest of the E. Germans, but I'd be surprised in Uwe Raab wasn't doping. His brother too.
You are right. In hotel, teams installed home-bike for their riders ! Hotel manager were surprise : TDF too hard ? No, they need to train during the night!ad9898 said:mmm well i reckon in 96 his blood was so thick that if he had cut himself he wouldn't of bled.....so i reckon 96 sounds about right give or take the odd one
Any more news on this CH?cyclingheroes said:Uwe Raab makes allegations against the team directors and says he had to end his career as he refused to dope:
http://www.radsport-aktiv.de/sport/sportnews_43730.htm
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Just that what I posted. But news is coming in fast, I am looking to a talkshow with Aldag, federation officials and prof Bannenberg (the women who started the fraud case against Ullrich in Bonn).Serafino said:Any more news on this CH?
cyclingheroes said:the state prosecution of Bonn is considering to close the Ullrich case because they are not sure anymore that TM did not know what was going on and in that case it would not be fraud.
That always seemed to be a lame case to me. The obvious defense for Ullrich was to claim that the team knew. It should have taken a complaint from T-Mob to get the ball rolling, not some random professor who had no knowledge of what kind of understanding might have existed between Ullrich and team staff.cyclingheroes said:Interesting news is that the state prosecution of Bonn is considering to close the Ullrich case because they are not sure anymore that TM did not know what was going on and in that case it would not be fraud.
Walter Godefoot is sweating bullets about now. Will the chain of knowledge end with him or does he implicate people higher up?limerickman said:If TMO (the business) did know about this - then this is really serious.
I am pretty sure they did know about it.limerickman said:CH - this is litmus test.
TMO last June attempted to paint the picture that whatever was going on with Ullrich/Sevilla and OP, had nothing to do with them (TMO)
TMO made a big issue of how it's house was going to be in order starting at 2006 TDF.
This week you have TMO doctors saying that they supplied EPO to the team in the 1990's.
If TMO (the business) did know about this - then this is really serious.
Bro Deal said:Udo Bolts just resigned from Gerolsteiner.
Qäul dich du sau!limerickman said:Oh dear, oh dear.
I was a Bolts fan during his career.
He does deserve a scintilla of credit for at admitting it.
At this rate Camezind is actually starting to go up in my estimation.
Jeebus! The whole of German cycling is falling apart. When do the other countries and their riders get what is coming to them?cyclingheroes said:The question is what will happen next. Godefroot told the German newspaper Die Welt that he will make an anouncement soon.
Serafino said:How could they have lost their way after leaving USPS/DC?
OMGmusette said:Sure, after they themselves, being less talented than LA, to to assume leadership of their own teams, they succumbed to temptations.
cyclingheroes said:That was what Udo said when Ulle had problems in the Vosges mountains in 97. I gues the bottle i have with that remark will be a collectors item soon.
The question is what will happen next. Godefroot told the German newspaper Die Welt that he will make an anouncement soon.
limerickman said:As regards Goodefroot, I wonder what he's going to say.
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