Thank God for George W. Bush

[Tom Keunich]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/16/911.commission/

9/11 staff: No al Qaeda cooperation with Iraq
Wednesday, June 16, 2004 Posted: 9:49 AM EDT (1349 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The panel investigating the September 11, 2001,
terrorist attacks found that there was "no credible evidence that Iraq
and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States,"
according to a staff report issued on Wednesday.

The report says Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with
Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to (Saddam)
Hussein's secular regime. Bin Laden had in fact at one time sponsored
anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan.

"The Sudanese, to protect their own ties with Iraq, reportedly
persuaded bin Laden to cease this support and arranged for contacts
between Iraq and al Qaeda."

A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly made three visits to
Sudan, finally meeting bin Laden in 1994.

Bin Laden is said to have requested space to establish training camps,
as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never
responded.

"There have been reports that contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda also
occurred after bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan, but they do not
appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship," the report
said.

 

[Tom Kunich]

[email protected] (Tom Keunich) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/16/911.commission/
>
> 9/11 staff: No al Qaeda cooperation with Iraq
> Wednesday, June 16, 2004 Posted: 9:49 AM EDT (1349 GMT)
>
> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The panel investigating the September 11, 2001,
> terrorist attacks found that there was "no credible evidence that Iraq
> and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States,"
> according to a staff report issued on Wednesday.
>
> The report says Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with
> Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to (Saddam)
> Hussein's secular regime.

So there's no ties huh?

 

[Marlene Blanshay]

"Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Tom Keunich) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/16/911.commission/
> >
> > 9/11 staff: No al Qaeda cooperation with Iraq
> > Wednesday, June 16, 2004 Posted: 9:49 AM EDT (1349 GMT)
> >
> > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The panel investigating the September 11, 2001,
> > terrorist attacks found that there was "no credible evidence that Iraq
> > and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States,"
> > according to a staff report issued on Wednesday.
> >
> > The report says Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with
> > Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to (Saddam)
> > Hussein's secular regime.
>
> So there's no ties huh?

Phew! I'm glad they got THAT all straightened out before someone went ahead
and did something stupid!

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Tom Kunich) wrote:

> [email protected] (Tom Keunich) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/16/911.commission/
> >
> > 9/11 staff: No al Qaeda cooperation with Iraq
> > Wednesday, June 16, 2004 Posted: 9:49 AM EDT (1349 GMT)
> >
> > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The panel investigating the September 11, 2001,
> > terrorist attacks found that there was "no credible evidence that Iraq
> > and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States,"
> > according to a staff report issued on Wednesday.
> >
> > The report says Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with
> > Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to (Saddam)
> > Hussein's secular regime.
>
> So there's no ties huh?


You are correct, Tom: there are no ties.

From <http://wcco.com/topstories/topstories_story_168092515.html>:

But the Sept. 11 panel said that while a senior Iraqi intelligence official
reportedly met with bin Laden in 1994 in Sudan, and bin Laden asked to set
up training camps in and for help with weapons, "Iraq apparently never
responded."
(end quote)

Note this word in the first sentence: "reportedly". Furthermore, a
one-time meeting that didn't seem to have any results can be called
"contact", but is not the same thing as "ties". Far from it.

Continuing:

According to a published report, Mohammed may have been subjected to
extreme interrogation methods by U.S. agents, including near drowning. It
is not clear if any of the information in Wednesday's report was obtained
using such tactics.
(end quote)

Is the info any good? A possible answer to that follows
(from <http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?file=524502.html>:

The nearly universal uselessness of torture is well-known in intelligence
and special warfare circles. Even if you have a key figure who does possess
useful information, and you eventually get him (or her) to tell you what
you want, what actual good is it?

Is it really true? Is it merely what the torturer has inadvertently
conveyed to the victim that he wants to hear? Even if true, is it any
longer useful? Every resistance or underground organization works with a
system of cut-outs that limits what any one individual knows, and signals
everyone else to scatter when a prisoner is taken.
(end quote)

--
tanx,
Howard

"Copper will never be gold"
Shellac

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>,
"Marlene Blanshay" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (Tom Keunich) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/16/911.commission/
> > >
> > > 9/11 staff: No al Qaeda cooperation with Iraq
> > > Wednesday, June 16, 2004 Posted: 9:49 AM EDT (1349 GMT)
> > >
> > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The panel investigating the September 11, 2001,
> > > terrorist attacks found that there was "no credible evidence that Iraq
> > > and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States,"
> > > according to a staff report issued on Wednesday.
> > >
> > > The report says Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with
> > > Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to (Saddam)
> > > Hussein's secular regime.
> >
> > So there's no ties huh?
>
> Phew! I'm glad they got THAT all straightened out before someone went ahead
> and did something stupid!

Careful, Marlene (heh)!

--
tanx,
Howard

"Copper will never be gold"
Shellac

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?