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Jeff Jones
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"Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>
Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line too
(according to the radar).
Jeff
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> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>
Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line too
(according to the radar).
Jeff
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Bob Schwartz
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Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>>
> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line too
> (according to the radar).
In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
trial, not a sprint.
So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
> "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>>
> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line too
> (according to the radar).
In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
trial, not a sprint.
So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
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Ewoud Dronkert
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:18:23 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
> too (according to the radar).
89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?
> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
> too (according to the radar).
89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?
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Richard Adams
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"Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
The 11 I would have expected.
Thank goodness he had the stamina to drive the pedals that far and
hold off a charging Alessandro. Fred looked like he was running on
fumes as he hit the line. From the heli shot you could see Petacchi
riding Fred's wheel before trying to come around. A hell of a sprint
and executed to perfection.
> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
The 11 I would have expected.
Thank goodness he had the stamina to drive the pedals that far and
hold off a charging Alessandro. Fred looked like he was running on
fumes as he hit the line. From the heli shot you could see Petacchi
riding Fred's wheel before trying to come around. A hell of a sprint
and executed to perfection.
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brian roth
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"Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
I read the book "Tour de France" by Robin Magowan, documenting the
1978 Tour. Some of the sprinters had a secret weapon, a 12 tooth cog.
Freddy had a 54 tooth ring, to go with his 11.
> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
I read the book "Tour de France" by Robin Magowan, documenting the
1978 Tour. Some of the sprinters had a secret weapon, a 12 tooth cog.
Freddy had a 54 tooth ring, to go with his 11.
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gwhite
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Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:18:23 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
> > too (according to the radar).
>
> 89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?
Why not ask Koach Kunich? He'll know.
> On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:18:23 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
> > too (according to the radar).
>
> 89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?
Why not ask Koach Kunich? He'll know.
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Dave H
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"Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>
> > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
> >>
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
too
> > (according to the radar).
>
> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
> get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
> trial, not a sprint.
>
> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>
> Bob Schwartz
> [email protected]
Freddy was sloggin that gear, head pumping, lots of body movement, it was an
uphill sprint too.
Dave
news:[email protected]...
> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>
> > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
> >>
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
too
> > (according to the radar).
>
> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
> get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
> trial, not a sprint.
>
> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>
> Bob Schwartz
> [email protected]
Freddy was sloggin that gear, head pumping, lots of body movement, it was an
uphill sprint too.
Dave
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Russ Baxter
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Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>
> > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
> >>
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line too
> > (according to the radar).
>
> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
> get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
> trial, not a sprint.
>
> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>
> Bob Schwartz
> [email protected]
I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill against the wind?
Seems to me the cadence would not be real high with such a big gear
under those conditions.
> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>
> > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
> >>
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line too
> > (according to the radar).
>
> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
> get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
> trial, not a sprint.
>
> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>
> Bob Schwartz
> [email protected]
I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill against the wind?
Seems to me the cadence would not be real high with such a big gear
under those conditions.
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Bob Schwartz
Guest
Russ Baxter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>> >>
>> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line too
>> > (according to the radar).
>>
>> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
>> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
>> get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
>> trial, not a sprint.
>>
>> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>>
>> Bob Schwartz
>> [email protected]
> I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill against the wind?
> Seems to me the cadence would not be real high with such a big gear
> under those conditions.
My point is not that you would have to slog such a big gear under
those conditions. My point is that it is very unusual to win a
sprint by slogging a big gear.
I'm at a disadvantage in that we don't do cable so all I'm going by
is crappy web video. It is hard to make much out because of the
shadows. He does appear to be turning a bigger gear than Petacchi.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
> Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>> >>
>> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line too
>> > (according to the radar).
>>
>> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
>> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
>> get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
>> trial, not a sprint.
>>
>> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>>
>> Bob Schwartz
>> [email protected]
> I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill against the wind?
> Seems to me the cadence would not be real high with such a big gear
> under those conditions.
My point is not that you would have to slog such a big gear under
those conditions. My point is that it is very unusual to win a
sprint by slogging a big gear.
I'm at a disadvantage in that we don't do cable so all I'm going by
is crappy web video. It is hard to make much out because of the
shadows. He does appear to be turning a bigger gear than Petacchi.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
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Stewart Fleming
Guest
Bob Schwartz wrote:
> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
They should have used fill-in flash.
> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
They should have used fill-in flash.
S
Steve
Guest
On 5/19/04 1:01 PM, in article [email protected], "Bob
Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Russ Baxter <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>>>>>
>>>> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
>>>> too
>>>> (according to the radar).
>>>
>>> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
>>> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
>>> get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
>>> trial, not a sprint.
>>>
>>> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>>>
>>> Bob Schwartz
>>> [email protected]
>
>
>> I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill against the wind?
>> Seems to me the cadence would not be real high with such a big gear
>> under those conditions.
>
> My point is not that you would have to slog such a big gear under
> those conditions. My point is that it is very unusual to win a
> sprint by slogging a big gear.
>
> I'm at a disadvantage in that we don't do cable so all I'm going by
> is crappy web video. It is hard to make much out because of the
> shadows. He does appear to be turning a bigger gear than Petacchi.
>
> Bob Schwartz
> [email protected]
You ALL must be kidding!!
You are NUTZZ if you do not think ALL in contention sprinters are not
running an 11
Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Russ Baxter <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>>>>>
>>>> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
>>>> too
>>>> (according to the radar).
>>>
>>> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows in
>>> the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't really
>>> get a sense of his cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time
>>> trial, not a sprint.
>>>
>>> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>>>
>>> Bob Schwartz
>>> [email protected]
>
>
>> I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill against the wind?
>> Seems to me the cadence would not be real high with such a big gear
>> under those conditions.
>
> My point is not that you would have to slog such a big gear under
> those conditions. My point is that it is very unusual to win a
> sprint by slogging a big gear.
>
> I'm at a disadvantage in that we don't do cable so all I'm going by
> is crappy web video. It is hard to make much out because of the
> shadows. He does appear to be turning a bigger gear than Petacchi.
>
> Bob Schwartz
> [email protected]
You ALL must be kidding!!
You are NUTZZ if you do not think ALL in contention sprinters are not
running an 11
J
Jiyang Chen
Guest
Fill in flash in a video? It would have to be a constant flash that
lasts for the duration of the sprint, and would be so bright that the
riders would be falling all over the place (not necessarily a bad
thing).
"Stewart Fleming" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
> > In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows
in
> > the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't
really
>
> They should have used fill-in flash.
>
lasts for the duration of the sprint, and would be so bright that the
riders would be falling all over the place (not necessarily a bad
thing).
"Stewart Fleming" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
> > In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of shadows
in
> > the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so you can't
really
>
> They should have used fill-in flash.
>
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Tom Kunich
Guest
"Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> My point is not that you would have to slog such a big gear under
> those conditions. My point is that it is very unusual to win a
> sprint by slogging a big gear.
I think that Fred held speed more than sprinted. For all of Petacchi's
rather rude remarks about Velo, I think that Marco was doing a good job
considering the conditions and that they were on the front for so long.
news:[email protected]...
>
> My point is not that you would have to slog such a big gear under
> those conditions. My point is that it is very unusual to win a
> sprint by slogging a big gear.
I think that Fred held speed more than sprinted. For all of Petacchi's
rather rude remarks about Velo, I think that Marco was doing a good job
considering the conditions and that they were on the front for so long.
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Bob Schwartz
Guest
Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> You ALL must be kidding!!
> You are NUTZZ if you do not think ALL in contention sprinters are not
> running an 11
Well, even from the crappy web video it's pretty clear that
Petacchi is running higher rpm than Fred. So if Fred was
in the 11 then Petacchi couldn't have been.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
> You ALL must be kidding!!
> You are NUTZZ if you do not think ALL in contention sprinters are not
> running an 11
Well, even from the crappy web video it's pretty clear that
Petacchi is running higher rpm than Fred. So if Fred was
in the 11 then Petacchi couldn't have been.
Bob Schwartz
[email protected]
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Rob Knell
Guest
Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:18:23 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
> > too (according to the radar).
>
> 89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?
I have the sprint on video. There's a helicopter shot of the last bit
of the sprint. I counted 20 pedal strokes in 13.5 seconds: 88.9 rpm. I
guess he was using that 54X11.
Rob
> On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:18:23 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming across the line
> > too (according to the radar).
>
> 89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?
I have the sprint on video. There's a helicopter shot of the last bit
of the sprint. I counted 20 pedal strokes in 13.5 seconds: 88.9 rpm. I
guess he was using that 54X11.
Rob
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