The “t-bone” effect

[Germanrazor]

You know what gripes me to no end with cagers???? I have seen this several times. You are approaching a street on your left and there is a vehicle waiting to turn left (your direction of travel). They see you, the cyclist coming. They have total disregard for the oncoming vehicle in the lane approaching them and make a left hand turn causing the other vehicle to make an evasive maneuver. They do this I am convinced because they don’t won’t to get behind you for a few seconds before they could pass you. They had rather endanger the lives of the on-coming vehicle and themselves rather than wait.

 

[swampy1970]

Why would they end up behind you if they’re waiting to make the same left turn that you’re doing but they were there first?

 

[Germanrazor]

Why would they end up behind you if they’re waiting to make the same left turn that you’re doing but they were there first?

I see the confusion in how I stated it. You are approaching a side road to your left........then the scenario plays out....LOL

 

[Mr. Beanz]

I've never seen that. I ride a lot at night and when I am approaching an intersection, or light, most cars yield and allow me to go first. Sometimes even when I don't want to ha ha! Like approaching an intersection at a 4 way stop riding a 5% grade. Sometimes you want to stop for a quick breather but you got 6 cars at an intersection waving you through!

Riding with the group on the roads over last few months, 99% of drivers are very or even overly courteous.

 

[swampy1970]

I see the confusion in how I stated it. You are approaching a side road to your left........then the scenario plays out....LOL

The only way to get in front of them is to do a **** move and pass them while they wait. I’m guessing that if they’re gunning it because they don’t want to be stuck behind cyclists in that situation then I’d guess that they’ve been around other cyclists that have pulled that same **** move - similar to other common **** moves like not stopping at Stop signs, riding through red lights and generally thinking that they’re somehow better than everyone else...

... until they get smushed by a 3,000+ car and all of a sudden no one cares.

 

[Germanrazor]

The only way to get in front of them is to do a **** move and pass them while they wait. I’m guessing that if they’re gunning it because they don’t want to be stuck behind cyclists in that situation then I’d guess that they’ve been around other cyclists that have pulled that same **** move - similar to other common **** moves like not stopping at Stop signs, riding through red lights and generally thinking that they’re somehow better than everyone else...

... until they get smushed by a 3,000+ car and all of a sudden no one cares.

WTH are you referring too....LOL

 

[Mr. Beanz]

Is that WTH, a "who" the hell or "what" the hell?

 

[Rock Creek Rider]

You know what gripes me to no end with cagers???? I have seen this several times. You are approaching a street on your left and there is a vehicle waiting to turn left (your direction of travel). They see you, the cyclist coming. They have total disregard for the oncoming vehicle in the lane approaching them and make a left hand turn causing the other vehicle to make an evasive maneuver. They do this I am convinced because they don’t won’t to get behind you for a few seconds before they could pass you. They had rather endanger the lives of the on-coming vehicle and themselves rather than wait.

Could be a German driver thing, but I suspect it is more likely that they, the drivers, are just misjudging how fast the opposing traffic is coming. If the cyclist is along side the motorist, when there is a break in traffic, and the cyclist doesn't swing wide around the turn, I have seen motorists, that actually care about not killing cyclists holding back to let the cyclist go ahead, for fear of cutting them off. I have also seen extremely inconsiderate cyclist, come up to an intersection and deliberately position themselves in front of the waiting motorist, in order to ensure that they aren't hit by the motorist while in the act of making the turn.
What I do is position myself well forward, almost in the lane of side traffic, and far to the right (assuming a country that drives on the correct side of the road ) so that the waiting driver doesn't feel impinged on and in danger of hitting me. I also position myself like that if I'm going straight and there is a right turn lane to my right. This way I don't block the right turn lane. It is important that we act as representatives of our sport. The less hostility there is toward cyclists, the safer we'll be.

 

[Yojimbo_]

I've never seen that sort of thing happen at an intersection like the one you describe. But I have been 't-boned' twice.