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> >Probably different for every person. Any diet which doesn't contain
> >enough calcium is calcium deficient. How much calcium is there in meat
> >and vegetables? How much calcium in fruit?
> >But another point is that a lot of foods produce an acid residue when
> >they get used up in the body (eg meat, eggs, fish, sugar, flour)and
> >when the blood gets too acid calcium falls out of solution and becomes
> >unusable in the body -- according to the theory. Read Paul Bragg's
> >books for more on this idea.
>
> No thanks, not if this is the sort of **** he spouts. Sugar and flour
> tend to produce alkaline urine. Proteins tend to give acid, as does
> exercise, and carbs give alkaline. A normal diet has little effect.
> There is plently of calcium in a normal, varied, wholefood diet.
Sure there is, and there isn't a whole plague of oldies with
osteoporsis.
> >Water would just thin out the urine. What I am saying is that if I
> >take a lot of sodium phosphate and sulphate tablets my urine goes
> >cloudy sometimes, and it goes clear again when I take potassium
> >tablets. Obviously sodium and potassium have to be kept in balance.
>
> And you can't do this voluntarily! Your body can do this fine. There
> are virtually NO insoluble sodium and potassium salts. A solution that
> is more dilute (thinned out if you like) will not be as likely to
> precipitate dissolved substances, like phosphates or oxalates.
But after each acid attack, the body stores waste products around the
body which leads to buildups which eventually lead to ill-health.
> >> >I don't know anything about renal failure, but feel free to explain
> >> >what it is in layman's terms.
> >>
> >> So what are you faffing on about calcium balance, if you haven't a
> >> clue how the kidneys work?
> >
> >Keeping calcium in balance is done by monitoring any other deficiency
> >symptoms. Calcium has to kept in balance with magnesium, potassium,
> >sodium, silica and iron.
>
> And the body does this fine from a wide variety of diets. You can't do
> this manually.
> How on Earth could you get a calcium deficiency symptom on a normal
> diet?
First of all, you have to know what the effects are of a calcium
deficiency. What do you think they are?
> >There are deficiency symptoms that occur if you take too much calcium
> >over a lengthy period, but you need the calcium obviously. The
> >solution isn't to stop taking the calcium but to take the other
> >cellsalts as deficiency symptoms arise.
>
> Stop taking everything other than a normal, balanced, varied,
> wholefood diet. You are being totally stupid and dicing with illness
> with these silly supplements.
I have studied the symptoms and taken the cellsalts according to that.
I resent the term "stupid" because it is an emotive term and says
nothing. I could say you were a silly, stupid, ignoramus. But what is
it saying? Absolutely nothing unless I give a reason for why I say it.
> >I know some water is said to contain minerals -- I don't know how this
> >would work.
>
> Ring up your water supply corporation or look it up on the web. Most
> water has scads of minerals.
Yes, but they have to be in the right form to be useful and they have
to be something that a person is deficient in. If the body doesn't
need them or can't assimilate them they can cause problems.
> > It might be beneficial, might cause a deficiency in other
> >lacking minerals, but I find it hard to believe you would have all the
> >12 cellsalts in your drinking water in perfect balance.
>
> What is "perfect balance"? That's the province of the snake oil
> salesman. You will get all the minerals you need in your diet and a
> little from the water you drink. Any excess will be piddled out. Any
> deficiency will be almost impossible to achieve. There have been some
> deficiencies of some trace elements (Se, I) in some outlying parts of
> the world. But a varied wholefood diet will serve you fine.
A perfect balance would vary from person to person, and according to a
person's overall diet. As I've said previously, if you get too much of
one mineral like calcium, it results in a deficiency of the other
minerals.
> >> BTW, if you eat calcium sulfate, you are eating plaster.
> >
> >I eat calcium carbonate which breaks down into the 3 calcium cellsalts
> >- calcium phosphate, sulphate and fluoride. Its not enough just to
> >take one because you need the whole 3.
>
> Please read a basic chemistry text.
> Calcium carbonate will fizz and turn into calcium chloride the instant
> it hits the stomach hydrochloric acid.
> There is likely fluoride ions in your drinking water, and phosphate
> ions in your food intake. I really don't know what you are talking
> about here. It sounds like total ********.
You're right that calcium carbonate fizzes in the stomach. However, be
that as it may, it also corrects the other calcium deficiency symptoms
(calcium phosphate, sulphate and fluoride). So, in other words,
calcium carbonate is an acceptable form of calcium to correct
deficiencies.
I don't doubt that you don't know what I'm talking about because
corrupted medical science doesn't know much about nutrients. Doctors
only get about one lecture during 6 years of study which proves my
point.
And have a bit of respect for people who know something you obviously
don't.
> >> >"Pseudo science" is the name given to many things to discredit them,
> >> >but in fact the pharmaceutical industry is pseudo science and
> >> >nutritional remedies are the true science.
> >>
> >> The former has evidence of efficacy, the latter does not.
> >
> >So they keep telling us. But there is a huge coverup, misinformation
> >and propaganda which the public is not aware of.
>
> So how do you know about this? 
>
> Do you really believe the "guru" who told you about it?
Because I am un-thick as opposed to people (perhaps like yourself) who
believe everything mainstream (run by globalist controlled, new world
order agenda) tells them.
> >> >Patented pharmaceutical drugs is what I'm talking about.
> >>
> >> Try a pharmacology text, and open your eyes.
> >
> >No thanks, I don't need to be brainwashed.
>
> You think science will brainwash you? Then you are beyond hope.
> Science is the only thing that will UNbrainwash you.
You are wrong. Science is based on fact, but steered away from the
truth after a certain point. Read up about Tesla and how many of his
patents have never been developed and used for public good.
> >What you don't understand
> >is that there is a huge amount of information that is culled or not
> >taught. They only teach what supports the current system.
>
> Total ********.
Truth hurts, doesn't it dearie?
> WHO "only teaches"? EVERY teacher in the world? There is a huge world
> out there beyound your tiny little conspiracy theories. Open you eyes.
> Are chemistry/physics texts "brainwashing"?
Probably not, but they teach only so much. And you obviously know
nothing about how conspiracies work, or the possibilities they are
being used against humanity.
Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/science.htm
