The "Acid-Reducer" Scam

"Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Extremely high fat content. The digestive system apparently does not care
whether it is "good" or "bad" fat.

I suspected that, thanks!

I wonder what the solution would be?

If you did not eat low carb, I would say to eat them with something
like bread that could absorb the fat and ease it through your system.

How do you usually eat avocados, in salads?

Omelet said:

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"Tony23" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Why would avocados do that?

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Extremely high fat content. The digestive system apparently does not care
whether it is "good" or "bad" fat.

I suspected that, thanks!

I wonder what the solution would be?

Lipase supplements. "lip-" means fat and "-ase" means digest.
Normally your pancreas spews out enough of this stuff but
as one gets older enzyme levels of all sorts can decline.

You can find them at any whale-encrusted, hippie organic food
store. Try Whole Foods for example. Online, I'm partial to
Swanson Health Products but you can find lipase just about anywhere.

Steve

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"Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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There are effective behavioral interventions for the prevention of
"heartburn." It's acid reflux, or GERD. One very successful means of
controlling it is eating and drinking in less gluttonous volume i.e.
eating RDA-defined portions.

<lol> Too true!

And avoiding eating foods you know you are sensitive to too late in the
evening.

This worked well for me, it was completely reversable, at least as far
as symptoms go. Grease really is the main culprit, and laying down
right after eating.

From what others are saying, I guess there are kinds of GERD that
do not respond to this??

Otherwise why would anyone have to be on the medicine permanently?

Bad habits and poor self discipline.

In my case, difficulties in giving up foods I like that set it off. :-P

Tomatoes and avocados being only two of them.
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Paco's Tacos said:

Sounds like time to go fishin' up in the Santa Cruz mountains again! ;-)
Watch out for them sharks, though! ;-)

[splash!]

<a sleek head breaks the surface of the water>

[blink]

Noooo, Blinky, don't eat Steve! He's bitter and stringy. 🙂

Ew. Thanks for the warning.

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"Steve Pope" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Lipase supplements. "lip-" means fat and "-ase" means digest.
Normally your pancreas spews out enough of this stuff but
as one gets older enzyme levels of all sorts can decline.

Interesting!

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You can find them at any whale-encrusted, hippie organic food
store.

I try to avoid whale-encrusted places.

Steve Wertz said:

cybercat said:

That they did not just reinforces Steve's opinion that he worked for
idiots. It is really hard working for idiots. They deserve what they get.

My biggest problem with the owner is that he surrounds himself
with docile, passive people that will agree with everything he
says or does to keep themselves on top, while they lie and steal
from him, while he criticized me for pointing that (and his
idiocy) out to him.

My two predecessors also got fired for the same thing. I just
hope I don't start panhandling in drag like the last one did.

it's not so bad if you got the legs for it.

your pal,
blake

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"Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I wondered why my doctor prescribed Protonix when all I saw on
tv was the "little purple pill" [censored].

Never trust the drug companies. They are out to make money, and I have
yet to see any evidence that they are interested in anything else...

Yeah, I am with you there. I see those adds with their weird images,
(Prilosec ads were the worst) and know that with all the money the
drug companies have, they have the best Madison Avenue advertising
geeks working on them, to persuade, persuade, to sway. Ugh.

It's getting to the point where, if I see it on TV I don't want to take it.

Remember the horrible Dr. Suess takeoffs for Celebrex, then it got
pulled for some heinous side effects? Now the ads are back, with
these lengthy discussions of horrible side effects on a backdrop of
lovely music. Ugh Ugh Ugh.

Tongue in cheek, but good examples:

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"Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Elevate the head of your bed slighty (bricks under the feet work), and
try not to eat 2 hours before retiring.

Om, I cured mine years ago, doing just that, although I sleep with lots
of pillows under my head. I have not had reflux for several years. The
deadly formula for me is grease plus spice plus red wine plus going
right to bed.

I avoid a lot of problems by not eating for about 2 hours prior to
retiring. I was blessed with a good GI doc.

Also giving up coffee and carbonated drinks.

Those have other benefits as well.
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"Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Extremely high fat content. The digestive system apparently does not care
whether it is "good" or "bad" fat.

I suspected that, thanks!

I wonder what the solution would be?

If you did not eat low carb, I would say to eat them with something
like bread that could absorb the fat and ease it through your system.

How do you usually eat avocados, in salads?

By themselves do the most damage. :-)

If eaten as part of a meal, it's not anywhere near as bad.

So you have a good point.
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"Tony23" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> Why would avocados do that?

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Extremely high fat content. The digestive system apparently does not care
whether it is "good" or "bad" fat.

I suspected that, thanks!

I wonder what the solution would be?

Lipase supplements. "lip-" means fat and "-ase" means digest.
Normally your pancreas spews out enough of this stuff but
as one gets older enzyme levels of all sorts can decline.

You can find them at any whale-encrusted, hippie organic food
store. Try Whole Foods for example. Online, I'm partial to
Swanson Health Products but you can find lipase just about anywhere.

Steve

I've seen digesting enzyme supps for sale.
Just never tried them.
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Paco's Tacos wrote:

> Sounds like time to go fishin' up in the Santa Cruz mountains again!
> ;-)
> Watch out for them sharks, though! ;-)

[splash!]

<a sleek head breaks the surface of the water>

[blink]

Noooo, Blinky, don't eat Steve! He's bitter and stringy. 🙂

Ew. Thanks for the warning.

I, on the other hand, am sweet and succulent. However, if you let me live, I
will scratch that little spot behind your dorsal fin that makes your tail
wiggle.

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Sheldon said:

GERD is a life threatening disease. Obviously any medication contains
some negatives. But with chronic illnesses there often isn't a choice
but to take medications for life. There are many things one can do to
mitigate GERD exascerbations and medication is one. GERD is often a
side effect of other chronic illnesses as well as of the medications
that treat those other chronic illnesses. With extreme cases surgery
may be indicated, but only as a last resort... Prilisec presents many
orders of magnetude less risk than an esophogus transplant, and
possibly also a bronchial reconstruction.

With some chronic illnesses it is indeed necessary to take medication
daily, rain or shine, for life. GERD is not among them.

There are too many other means of controlling gastric reflux. Modifying
dietary habits, weight and activity are primary controls but because
they are behavioral controls (requiring real personal discipline to
change old habits), the failure rate is high. There is a greater success
rate with medications because it is easier and less of a nuisance to
take a pill in the morning and then modify eating habits later, way
later, like tomorrow or the next day. That's why we have a pill for
every goddamned thing.

Proton pump inhibitors will still be used even when GERD is
better-controlled, but they will be used on an intermittent basis just
as they were meant to be used. In many present day cases of
long-standing GERD, if patients are under good dietary control their
daily proton pump inhibitors are being changed to short-interval PRN
doses for when symptoms recur.

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Sheldon said:

GERD is a life threatening disease. Obviously any medication contains
some negatives. But with chronic illnesses there often isn't a choice
but to take medications for life. There are many things one can do to
mitigate GERD exascerbations and medication is one. GERD is often a
side effect of other chronic illnesses as well as of the medications
that treat those other chronic illnesses. With extreme cases surgery
may be indicated, but only as a last resort... Prilisec presents many
orders of magnetude less risk than an esophogus transplant, and
possibly also a bronchial reconstruction.

With some chronic illnesses it is indeed necessary to take medication
daily, rain or shine, for life. GERD is not among them.

There are too many other means of controlling gastric reflux. Modifying
dietary habits, weight and activity are primary controls but because they
are behavioral controls (requiring real personal discipline to change old
habits), the failure rate is high. There is a greater success rate with
medications because it is easier and less of a nuisance to take a pill in
the morning and then modify eating habits later, way later, like tomorrow
or the next day. That's why we have a pill for every goddamned thing.

Proton pump inhibitors will still be used even when GERD is
better-controlled, but they will be used on an intermittent basis just as
they were meant to be used. In many present day cases of long-standing
GERD, if patients are under good dietary control their daily proton pump
inhibitors are being changed to short-interval PRN doses for when symptoms
recur.

I am in agreement with you. You have a much better understanding of
this problem than most people do.

cybercat said:

I am in agreement with you. You have a much better understanding of
this problem than most people do.

She's a Registered Nurse.

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I am in agreement with you. You have a much better understanding of
this problem than most people do.

She's a Registered Nurse.

Well then that just goes to show you how smart I really am, now doesn't it?

lol

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> Paco's Tacos wrote:
>
>> Sounds like time to go fishin' up in the Santa Cruz mountains again!
>> ;-)
>> Watch out for them sharks, though! ;-)
>
> [splash!]
>
> <a sleek head breaks the surface of the water>
>
> [blink]

Noooo, Blinky, don't eat Steve! He's bitter and stringy. 🙂

Ew. Thanks for the warning.

I, on the other hand, am sweet and succulent. However, if you let me live, I
will scratch that little spot behind your dorsal fin that makes your tail
wiggle.

Oooh. <involuntarily starts to twitch>

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cybercat wrote:
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> "Blinky the Shark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Paco's Tacos wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like time to go fishin' up in the Santa Cruz mountains again!
>>> ;-)
>>> Watch out for them sharks, though! ;-)
>>
>> [splash!]
>>
>> <a sleek head breaks the surface of the water>
>>
>> [blink]
>
> Noooo, Blinky, don't eat Steve! He's bitter and stringy. 🙂

Ew. Thanks for the warning.

I, on the other hand, am sweet and succulent. However, if you let me
live, I
will scratch that little spot behind your dorsal fin that makes your tail
wiggle.

Oooh. <involuntarily starts to twitch>

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Hey! Get a room, you two! ;-)~

cybercat said:

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Omelet said:

I'd personally prefer not to take the risk.
Famotidine is working fine (at the moment anyway...)

That and a bit of dietary care.

It really annoys me that Avocados seem to set off almost instant
heartburn. :-( Even worse that Tomatoes.

Ugh - I guess guacamole is out, then?

Why would avocados do that?

Extremely high fat content. The digestive system apparently does not care
whether it is "good" or "bad" fat.

Ah - I can see that. Didn't look at it that way.

cybercat said:

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It is really hard working for idiots.

AMEN!

I bet even other idiots have a problem working for idiots.

I now work for myself. I refuse to say if that is hard or not, lol!!

Biggest problem working for yourself is that you can't gripe about your
boss behind his back.

Pennyaline said:

Sheldon said:

GERD is a life threatening disease. Obviously any medication contains
some negatives. But with chronic illnesses there often isn't a choice
but to take medications for life. There are many things one can do to
mitigate GERD exascerbations and medication is one. GERD is often a
side effect of other chronic illnesses as well as of the medications
that treat those other chronic illnesses. With extreme cases surgery
may be indicated, but only as a last resort... Prilisec presents many
orders of magnetude less risk than an esophogus transplant, and
possibly also a bronchial reconstruction.

With some chronic illnesses it is indeed necessary to take medication
daily, rain or shine, for life. GERD is not among them.

There are too many other means of controlling gastric reflux. Modifying
dietary habits, weight and activity are primary controls but because
they are behavioral controls (requiring real personal discipline to
change old habits), the failure rate is high. There is a greater success
rate with medications because it is easier and less of a nuisance to
take a pill in the morning and then modify eating habits later, way
later, like tomorrow or the next day. That's why we have a pill for
every goddamned thing.

There is also the matter of trade-offs. "You can cure GERD by giving up
X" - well, what is it worth to give up X?