- Mar 17, 2006
you have quite a few concepts confused in your post. usada did not deliver there decision based upon churlish behaviour or if postal/disco/etc. doped better than anyone else, but on his refusal to co-operate with the investigation as his teammates mostly did and his refusal to face the charges. as for aso stripping his name of their records, that is their choice and, again, i doubt aso removed his name solely on his lack of character but more on the fact that he cheated his way to victory. how the other riders feel about it is something which i doubt you can pin down to one emotion or attitude and would have little sway as far as aso are concerned, i imagine. as for armstrong's actions when he felt he was beyond sanction and at the top of the tdf, that is something which damns him in the court of public opinion.Originally Posted by Fatcyclist
I am not sure "no one else has claimed" is accurate here. Maybe "they have not been able to award" might be better. Doping was systemic and trying to figure out who was the best or worst at doping and deriving the punishment based on that is fools errand.
It seems most are having trouble distinguishing between Lance the doper and Lance the jerk. I think if we were going to strip titles of tour winners for lying, bullying and being an all around jerk we would not have many tour winners left. I have not found many that I admire save Froome and Schleck in the modern era.
I think if we are relying on the conscience of super stars of each sport to govern the sport we are in real trouble. The point is that the sport did not have the tools or chose not to take action to regulate band substances. If that is the case then it is part of the sport and the sport is to be blamed not an individual.
I am okay with the ban for life but stripping the titles just screws the entire peloton in the telling them that for seven years the roll you played (doper or not) was meaningless since the entire race was being scratched. I know if I had to pull my leader up and down the Alps and Pyranees I would want the credit of knowing I was part of something. I don"t know that I could blame that feeling of being robbed of that on Lance Armstrong but could certainly blame that of the the UCI for pulling the titles...from everyone. It is like saying, those races never existed for the fans, sponsors, participants etc and that is bad for the sport and all of you wasted your time. People attend sporting events cause they want to be part of something greater than themselves.
I think truth is important above all and I doubt Lance will fully come to terms with what he did outside of doping but blowing up the tours for 7 years is just stupid. They have done this in other sports and the there was always regret in later years for responding with too much emotion.
and it's a bit of a puzzler that you think truth important above all, yet cannot accept those seven years being vacated.