the difference between greg lemond and lace armstrong



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Fred Fredburger

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Bob Schwartz wrote:
> bidon jaune wrote:
>> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
>> message de news: [email protected]...
>>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:18:48 GMT, John Everett
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the only thing that's "so
>>>> obvious" is something we already knew; Lance climbed at a higher
>>>> cadence than just about anyone else.
>>> Pantani sometimes spun it like a fiend uphill.
>>>

>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCIJ2JewPE
>>
>> it looks effectively like pantani

>
> That's why I always liked Ullrich. He climbed at a much
> lower cadence, so you knew he was clean. Not like those
> dirty spinners.


And he had hair. Lots of hair. Dopers are either bald or else they cut
their hair real short.
 
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Ryan Cousineau

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In article <[email protected]>,
"bidon jaune" <nce.fr> wrote:

> "John Everett" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
> message de news: [email protected]...
>
> it was too fast to be true. nobody climb the moutain like that


You are Antoine Vayer and I claim my five pounds.

The way you post, it's not natural either. What are you on?

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Howard Kveck

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In article <[email protected]>,
Fred Fredburger <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob Schwartz wrote:
> > bidon jaune wrote:
> >> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
> >> message de news: [email protected]...
> >>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:18:48 GMT, John Everett
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> the only thing that's "so
> >>>> obvious" is something we already knew; Lance climbed at a higher
> >>>> cadence than just about anyone else.
> >>> Pantani sometimes spun it like a fiend uphill.
> >>>
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCIJ2JewPE
> >>
> >> it looks effectively like pantani

> >
> > That's why I always liked Ullrich. He climbed at a much
> > lower cadence, so you knew he was clean. Not like those
> > dirty spinners.

>
> And he had hair. Lots of hair. Dopers are either bald or else they cut
> their hair real short.


Don't forget Mullet-Man Brochard - he had some short hair and some long, so that
must mean he was a part-time doper.

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On May 30, 11:31 pm, Howard Kveck <[email protected]> wrote:
> Fred Fredburger <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Bob Schwartz wrote:
> > > bidon jaune wrote:
> > >> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
> > >>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:18:48 GMT, John Everett
> > >>> <[email protected]> wrote:

>


> > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCIJ2JewPE

>
> > >> it looks effectively like pantani

>
> > > That's why I always liked Ullrich. He climbed at a much
> > > lower cadence, so you knew he was clean. Not like those
> > > dirty spinners.

>
> > And he had hair. Lots of hair. Dopers are either bald or else they cut
> > their hair real short.

>
> Don't forget Mullet-Man Brochard - he had some short hair and some long, so that
> must mean he was a part-time doper.


Dumbasses,

Read the subject line. This thread isn't about
LANCE Armstrong. It is about Lace Armstrong.
Lace is Lance's drag-queen half-brother. He lives
in San Francisco and races for the DFL Cyclocross
team. You knew that, right?

Ben
 
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Donald Munro

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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> The way you post, it's not natural either. What are you on?


Pidgin pie.
 
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John Forrest Tomlinson

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 22:04:35 -0700, Fred Fredburger
<[email protected]> wrote:

>And he had hair. Lots of hair. Dopers are either bald or else they cut
>their hair real short.


I don't mean to be cynical, but sometimes he had that flushed look in
his face, and you know what that means.
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Steven L. Sheffield

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On 5/31/07 4:42 AM, in article [email protected],
"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 30 May 2007 22:04:35 -0700, Fred Fredburger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And he had hair. Lots of hair. Dopers are either bald or else they cut
>> their hair real short.

>
> I don't mean to be cynical, but sometimes he had that flushed look in
> his face, and you know what that means.



That he was about to have an orgasm?



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RonSonic

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On 30 May 2007 23:57:58 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On May 30, 11:31 pm, Howard Kveck <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Fred Fredburger <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Bob Schwartz wrote:
>> > > bidon jaune wrote:
>> > >> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
>> > >>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:18:48 GMT, John Everett
>> > >>> <[email protected]> wrote:

>>

>
>> > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCIJ2JewPE

>>
>> > >> it looks effectively like pantani

>>
>> > > That's why I always liked Ullrich. He climbed at a much
>> > > lower cadence, so you knew he was clean. Not like those
>> > > dirty spinners.

>>
>> > And he had hair. Lots of hair. Dopers are either bald or else they cut
>> > their hair real short.

>>
>> Don't forget Mullet-Man Brochard - he had some short hair and some long, so that
>> must mean he was a part-time doper.

>
>Dumbasses,
>
>Read the subject line. This thread isn't about
>LANCE Armstrong. It is about Lace Armstrong.
>Lace is Lance's drag-queen half-brother. He lives
>in San Francisco and races for the DFL Cyclocross
>team. You knew that, right?


No, cross-dressers don't ride cross, they move to Canada and become mountain
bike champions.

Ron


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Simon Brooke

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in message <[email protected]>,
RicodJour ('[email protected]') wrote:

> On May 30, 9:58 am, Fred Fredburger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> It's weird. Basso confesses and Ullrich is busted. But all anyone wants
>> to talk about is a RETIRED LA and whether HE doped too.

>
> Screw Lance. I really want to know if Major Taylor was a doper.


Ashes to ashes, funk to funky, we know Major Tom's a junkie...

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On May 31, 7:22 am, RonSonic <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 30 May 2007 23:57:58 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >Dumbasses,

>
> >Read the subject line. This thread isn't about
> >LANCE Armstrong. It is about Lace Armstrong.
> >Lace is Lance's drag-queen half-brother. He lives
> >in San Francisco and races for the DFL Cyclocross
> >team. You knew that, right?

>
> No, cross-dressers don't ride cross, they move to Canada and become mountain
> bike champions.


Cross-dressers and transsexuals aren't necessarily
the same thing. Some are just one, some are just
the other, and some are both. Also, you're misinformed
about the cyclocross:

http://www.abbiorca.com/bike/cross/cross2005/outlaw_9_21_05/best/source/outlaw_9_21_05_0418_n.html

http://www.abbiorca.com/bike/cross/index.html for more
(in the September bootleg races).

Ben
Let's face it, most of us look like bumbling idiots
while racing cross, but at least if you're cross-
dressing, you have a partial excuse.
 
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RonSonic

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:54:46 -0000, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On May 31, 7:22 am, RonSonic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 30 May 2007 23:57:58 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >Dumbasses,

>>
>> >Read the subject line. This thread isn't about
>> >LANCE Armstrong. It is about Lace Armstrong.
>> >Lace is Lance's drag-queen half-brother. He lives
>> >in San Francisco and races for the DFL Cyclocross
>> >team. You knew that, right?

>>
>> No, cross-dressers don't ride cross, they move to Canada and become mountain
>> bike champions.

>
>Cross-dressers and transsexuals aren't necessarily
>the same thing. Some are just one, some are just
>the other, and some are both. Also, you're misinformed
>about the cyclocross:
>
>http://www.abbiorca.com/bike/cross/cross2005/outlaw_9_21_05/best/source/outlaw_9_21_05_0418_n.html


This one wears it better:
http://www.abbiorca.com/bike/cross/cross2006/outlaw06-9-20/index.html


>http://www.abbiorca.com/bike/cross/index.html for more
>(in the September bootleg races).
>
>Ben
>Let's face it, most of us look like bumbling idiots
>while racing cross, but at least if you're cross-
>dressing, you have a partial excuse.


Great stuff!

Ron
 
There is a lot differences between Greg and Lance. Greg rode
defensively when he won his TDF's. Coversely speaking Lance was not
afraid to Launch attacks. Lemond never won any classics except by
default. Lance won the Leige Bostogne Leige. One big difference was
that Lemond was a big time whiner. We never saw this from Lance.


On May 30, 2:06 am, "bidon jaune" <[email protected]> wrote:
> well i just watched some video of luz Ardiden's clim in 1985 and sestriere
> in 1999
>
> in 1985:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZY9287pYZM
>
> 15 year after:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCIJ2JewPE
>
> when you see the difference it's just so obvious that american now are full
> and loaded of dope and that they cheat
 
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Donald Munro

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> Lance won the Leige Bostogne Leige.

Is that a fatty master criterium in Massachusetts ?
 
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paolo

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On May 30, 7:15 pm, "Tom Kunich" <[email protected] com> wrote:
> "bidon jaune" <nce.fr> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]
>
>
>
> > <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > [email protected]
> >>Exactly what do you think you're looking at? LeMond was riding a 39-23
> >>with a 20 lb bike mostly in a higher gear. Lance was riding a 15 lb

> > <bike with a 38-25 or even less and spinning.

>
> > maybe, the difference is that greg remain a legend here , perhaps because
> > he was the first american to go, he was young ,clean and not snob at all

>
> Maybe you ought to think about this for a second - Greg LeMond has a red
> blood cell problem and suddenly it was fixed by a shot of iron?
>
> You are aware that at the same time EPO was becoming available?


wasn't it a shot of lead?
 
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Bob Schwartz

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[email protected] wrote:
> There is a lot differences between Greg and Lance. Greg rode
> defensively when he won his TDF's. Coversely speaking Lance was not
> afraid to Launch attacks. Lemond never won any classics except by
> default. Lance won the Leige Bostogne Leige. One big difference was
> that Lemond was a big time whiner. We never saw this from Lance.


Tyler won Liège-Bastogne-Liège, LANCE took second twice. In 1994
the lead group was Berzin, LANCE, Furlan, Chiapucci, Della Santa,
and Rominger, LANCE took second.

In 1996 it was Pascal Richard, LANCE, and Mauro Gianetti at the
end. LANCE again took second.

Those are some pretty loaded riders. By 1996 LANCE was working with
the orange juice guy, so he certainly knew the score. I'm not so
sure that was the case in 1994.

Bob Schwartz
 
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John Forrest Tomlinson

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:56:30 +0200, Donald Munro
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Lance won the Leige Bostogne Leige.

>
>Is that a fatty master criterium in Massachusetts ?


LOL -- around 1987 someone was organizing a "classic" race in
Massachusetts called Dover-Natick. But it turned out the course was
really Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-
Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-
Dover-Natick-Dover.


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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

> LOL -- around 1987 someone was organizing a "classic" race in
> Massachusetts called Dover-Natick. But it turned out the course was
> really Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-
> Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-Dover-Natick-
> Dover-Natick-Dover.


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- Paradise crit in Minnesota.