John Edser wrote:
>>>>RN:- Evolution is a fact because we have direct evidence of change in heritable features
>>>>over time.
>>
>>>>JE:- Incorrect. "Evolution is a fact because we have direct evidence of" A NON RANDOM "change in
>>>>heritable features over time".
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>>>>RN:- Simply put, evolution explains what we see and there is no competitive explanation that has
>>>>any shred of scientific validity.
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>>>>JE:- Random changes on their own, do not have "any shred of scientific validity" .
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>>>RN:- Everyone in the known universe except you understands probabilistic phenomena and accepts
>>>drift as a legitimate mechanism of evolution.
>>
>>>JE:- Well, isn't it just amazing that RN knows "everyone in the known universe"! Perhaps RN is an
>>>associate of Sai Baba who wrote: "There are those who think that the world exists and that the
>>>world is real. There are others who think that the world does not exist and that the world is not
>>>real. Rare indeed is that blessed one who does not think, But who is ever calm, abiding in the
>>>Absolute." If you wish evolutionary theory to remain a testable view of science so that it never
>>>again becomes just post modern clay for group selective maniacs like ******, Stalin, Mao, Pol pot
>>>etc, etc, then we will have to re-educate "everyone in the known universe" to independently
>>>THINK, won't we...
>>
>>RN:- John clearly is not amused by the rhetorical device called "hyperbole". Clearly I don't mean
>>literally everyone in the universe. I simply mean everyone in the universe with a clear
>>understanding of science and evolution. Yes, I do personally know all of them.
>>
>>JE:- It's just more group selective rubbish isn't it! A larger group is NOT necessarily naturally
>>selected over a smaller group.
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> F:- Especially when the "smaller group" is actually just a single nutjob with *way* too much time
> on his hands.
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> JE:- Frank I am so sorry to hear that you have "*way* too much time" on your hands and this is
> driving you nutty. Can I suggest a study of the epistemology of science to give you an
> appreciation of what is and what isn't, science?
>
Josh - WAKE UP!
And the rest of you should really listen to our esteemed moderator when he asks you to be polite. If
I wanted to read endless bouts of insults, I'd subscribe to Hansard.
[moderator's note: Yeah, I actually saw this and let it go, figuring John deserved one shot
back. But now, please, people, enough slagging. If you can't say something constructive, don't
bother. - JAH]
Bob
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