The Fahrenheit 411: Michael Moore's Phony "Facts"



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Steve

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Michael Moore Fact # 1: George W. Bush knew a guy, who
knew a guy, who stood next to a guy on an elevator, who
happened to be the husband of a girl whose cousin was
dating this really, really fat man, who worked with a guy
who was related to (hold your breath for this one) Osama
BIN LADEN!!!!!!!!!!! At this point in the film Michael
Moore interviews a few democrats who say Bush is a bad
stupid man who has some curious links to the Bin Laden
family, plays music that probably got rejected from
Unsolved Mysteries, and shows Bush and his father shaking
the hands of Saudi Arabians.

Michael Moore Fact # 2: Americans supported the war with
Iraq because we are trained dogs. Now you have to really
focus on this part of the film to absorb it all. We as
Americans are manipulated by the media with the orange
alerts, terrorist threats, and cavity searches that we just
went along blindly with after 9/11. After all there is no
real terrorist threat. The media created it because they are
manipulated by the Bush Administration. Apparently, even
though the president is a buffoon, he is capable of
controlling the media, who are controlling you. So who's
pulling the President's strings you ask? (I know that was my
obvious question.) The President is under the authority of
(hold your breath again) the Saudi Arabians, Big Oil, Big
Tobacco, Enron, the Rich Republicans, his Daddy, and Osama
BIN LADEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Moore Fact # 3: Until we went there and disrupted
the peace Baghdad was the happiest place in the world. It
looked like a scene out of Mary Poppins. There were kids
flying kites, playing in playgrounds, teenagers shopping at
the Gap - well, it was all happiness and puppies. That whole
third world country thing was just propaganda. What about
the whole Saddam Hussein oppressive dictatorship you ask?
Horse Puckey! Everything was just dandy until we went there
and destroyed the peace in Iraq.

Michael Moore Fact #4: Our soldiers are dumb rednecks who
like to play rock music while they kill innocent civilians.
However, they were in turn preyed upon by Nazi Military
recruiters who force these poor minorities - mainly from
Flint, Michigan - to join up. After being forced into the
military, then being forced to actually go fight in a war,
these poor innocents are misled by our Government's
immorality and that's why they molest prisoners.

Now if you still can't resist the urge to waste your money,
you can learn more interesting Michael Moore facts like: 1)
there are no cops in Oregon,
2) black people's votes don't count in Florida, and 3)
protestors are the only people who aren't blind sheep
in this country. Oh, and at the end of the movie
expect a standing ovation from a group of people who
don't see the movie as a presentation of Michael
Moore's skewed, pessimistic view of America - they
just see it as Amerika.

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/k/k-misc/king062704.htm
 
Perhaps now you can give us George W. Bush's 'FACTS':
Iraq has stacks of WMD's and almost has nuclear weapons.
Iraq and al Qaeda are really close to each other even though they are completely idealogically opposed.
Iraq is giving WMD's to al Qaeda.
**** Cheney and Halliburton's contracts are not related.
A complete lack of health care for 40 million people is acceptable.
I can read.

Wake up and smell the roses. You may choose not to believe Michael Moore but choosing to believe GWB et al is far more damaging.
 
patch70 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Perhaps now you can give us George W. Bush's 'FACTS': Iraq
> has stacks of WMD's and almost has nuclear weapons. Iraq
> and al Qaeda are really close to each other even though
> they are completely idealogically opposed. Iraq is giving
> WMD's to al Qaeda. **** Cheney and Halliburton's contracts
> are not related. A complete lack of health care for 40
> million people is acceptable. I can read.
>
> Wake up and smell the roses. You may choose not to believe
> Michael Moore but choosing to believe GWB et al is far
> more damaging.
>
>
>
> --

How does this all pertain to bike racing? Just curious...

Tom
 
Steve wrote:

(a big ugly rant)

So, Steve, did you see the movie or do you just continue to
let other people think for you?
 
This does not belong in the racing forum. Please take
political threads someplace else. I hate to see this forum
go the way of others and become a place for political
discussions. Good grief! The tour starts in a matter of
days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve wrote:
> Michael Moore Fact # 1: George W. Bush knew a guy, who
> knew a guy, who stood next to a guy on an elevator, who
> happened to be the husband of a girl whose cousin was
> dating this really, really fat man, who worked with a guy
> who was related to (hold your breath for this one) Osama
> BIN LADEN!!!!!!!!!!! At this point in the film Michael
> Moore interviews a few democrats who say Bush is a bad
> stupid man who has some curious links to the Bin Laden
> family, plays music that probably got rejected from
> Unsolved Mysteries, and shows Bush and his father shaking
> the hands of Saudi Arabians.
>
> Michael Moore Fact # 2: Americans supported the war with
> Iraq because we are trained dogs. Now you have to really
> focus on this part of the film to absorb it all. We as
> Americans are manipulated by the media with the orange
> alerts, terrorist threats, and cavity searches that we
> just went along blindly with after 9/11. After all there
> is no real terrorist threat. The media created it because
> they are manipulated by the Bush Administration.
> Apparently, even though the president is a buffoon, he is
> capable of controlling the media, who are controlling you.
> So who's pulling the President's strings you ask? (I know
> that was my obvious question.) The President is under the
> authority of (hold your breath again) the Saudi Arabians,
> Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Enron, the Rich Republicans, his
> Daddy, and Osama BIN LADEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Michael Moore Fact # 3: Until we went there and disrupted
> the peace Baghdad was the happiest place in the world. It
> looked like a scene out of Mary Poppins. There were kids
> flying kites, playing in playgrounds, teenagers shopping
> at the Gap - well, it was all happiness and puppies. That
> whole third world country thing was just propaganda. What
> about the whole Saddam Hussein oppressive dictatorship you
> ask? Horse Puckey! Everything was just dandy until we went
> there and destroyed the peace in Iraq.
>
> Michael Moore Fact #4: Our soldiers are dumb rednecks who
> like to play rock music while they kill innocent
> civilians. However, they were in turn preyed upon by Nazi
> Military recruiters who force these poor minorities -
> mainly from Flint, Michigan - to join up. After being
> forced into the military, then being forced to actually go
> fight in a war, these poor innocents are misled by our
> Government's immorality and that's why they molest
> prisoners.
>
> Now if you still can't resist the urge to waste your
> money, you can learn more interesting Michael Moore facts
> like: 1) there are no cops in Oregon,
> 2) black people's votes don't count in Florida, and 3)
> protestors are the only people who aren't blind sheep
> in this country. Oh, and at the end of the movie expect
> a standing ovation from a group of people who don't see
> the movie as a presentation of Michael Moore's skewed,
> pessimistic view of America - they just see it as
> Amerika.
>
> http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/k/k-
> misc/king062704.htm
 
Steve <[email protected]> wrote...
> Michael Moore Fact # 1: George W. Bush knew a guy, who
> knew a guy, who stood next to a guy on an elevator, who
> happened to be the husband of a girl whose cousin was
> dating this really, really fat man, who worked with a guy
> who was related to (hold your breath for this one) Osama
> BIN LADEN!!!!!!!!!!! At this point in .... <non Tour news
> omitted>

I am no Michael Moore political fan but why are such an
overwhelming asshole Steve and post politics to RBR?

-Ken
 
I could not watch the rest..

On 6/28/04 6:56 AM, in article
[email protected], "Richard Adams"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>
> (a big ugly rant)
>
> So, Steve, did you see the movie or do you just continue
> to let other people think for you?
 
I did NOT start it....... Liberals become appalled when you
actually respond and fight back!

On 6/28/04 8:05 AM, in article
[email protected], "K. J.
Papai" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve <[email protected]> wrote...
>> Michael Moore Fact # 1: George W. Bush knew a guy, who
>> knew a guy, who stood next to a guy on an elevator, who
>> happened to be the husband of a girl whose cousin was
>> dating this really, really fat man, who worked with a guy
>> who was related to (hold your breath for this one) Osama
>> BIN LADEN!!!!!!!!!!! At this point in .... <non Tour news
>> omitted>
>
> I am no Michael Moore political fan but why are such an
> overwhelming asshole Steve and post politics to RBR?
>
> -Ken
 
To quote (as best I can remember it) what Sen. Daniel Patrich Moynahan said
at a Liberal Party dinner around 1984:

If supporting the right to a decent minimum wage, medical
care on demand for all citizens, honesty in public service,
affordable quality public education through college for all,
equal civil rights for all citizens, a foreign policy based
on cooperation with international organizations such as the
United Nations and the belief that we must all share
equitably the wealth of the world, then yes, I'm a liberal
and damn proud of it.

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BD059AD0.306E7%[email protected]...
> I did NOT start it....... Liberals become appalled when
> you actually respond and fight back!
>
>
> On 6/28/04 8:05 AM, in article
> [email protected], "K. J.
> Papai" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Steve <[email protected]> wrote...
> >> Michael Moore Fact # 1: George W. Bush knew a guy, who
> >> knew a guy, who
stood
> >> next to a guy on an elevator, who happened to be the
> >> husband of a girl
whose
> >> cousin was dating this really, really fat man, who
> >> worked with a guy
who was
> >> related to (hold your breath for this one) Osama BIN
> >> LADEN!!!!!!!!!!!
At
> >> this point in .... <non Tour news omitted>
> >
> > I am no Michael Moore political fan but why are such an
> > overwhelming asshole Steve and post politics to RBR?
> >
> > -Ken
 
What part of "I could not watch the rest" do you not
understand?

The lawyer cross questions take take a hike...

On 6/28/04 9:53 AM, in article
[email protected], "B.
Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> So you haven't seen more than the trailer?
>
> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BD059807.306DF%[email protected]...
>> I could not watch the rest..
>>
>>
>> On 6/28/04 6:56 AM, in article
>> [email protected],
> "Richard
>> Adams" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve wrote:
>>>
>>> (a big ugly rant)
>>>
>>> So, Steve, did you see the movie or do you just continue
>>> to let other people think for you?
>>>
>>
 
That all sounds real nifty...... Unfortunatly we are not
Socialists yet!

When that happens people (like you!) who have got ahead
in life will be living in a 1 bedroom commune tract and
drive a Yugo to their government job to get their
government paycheck

On 6/28/04 10:00 AM, in article
[email protected], "B.
Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> To quote (as best I can remember it) what Sen. Daniel
> Patrich Moynahan said at a Liberal Party dinner
> around 1984:
>
> If supporting the right to a decent minimum wage, medical
> care on demand for all citizens, honesty in public
> service, affordable quality public education through
> college for all, equal civil rights for all citizens, a
> foreign policy based on cooperation with international
> organizations such as the United Nations and the belief
> that we must all share equitably the wealth of the world,
> then yes, I'm a liberal and damn proud of it.
>
>
> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BD059AD0.306E7%[email protected]...
>> I did NOT start it....... Liberals become appalled when
>> you actually respond and fight back!
>>
>>
>> On 6/28/04 8:05 AM, in article
>> [email protected], "K. J.
>> Papai" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve <[email protected]> wrote...
>>>> Michael Moore Fact # 1: George W. Bush knew a guy, who
>>>> knew a guy, who
> stood
>>>> next to a guy on an elevator, who happened to be the
>>>> husband of a girl
> whose
>>>> cousin was dating this really, really fat man, who
>>>> worked with a guy
> who was
>>>> related to (hold your breath for this one) Osama BIN
>>>> LADEN!!!!!!!!!!!
> At
>>>> this point in .... <non Tour news omitted>
>>>
>>> I am no Michael Moore political fan but why are such an
>>> overwhelming asshole Steve and post politics to RBR?
>>>
>>> -Ken
>>
 
So tell us specifically what portion of the film you saw and
where you saw
it.

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BD059D59.30703%[email protected]...
> What part of "I could not watch the rest" do you not
> understand?
>
> The lawyer cross questions take take a hike...
>
>
> On 6/28/04 9:53 AM, in article
> [email protected], "B.
> Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > So you haven't seen more than the trailer?
> >
> > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:BD059807.306DF%[email protected]...
> >> I could not watch the rest..
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/28/04 6:56 AM, in article
> >> [email protected],
> > "Richard
> >> Adams" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Steve wrote:
> >>>
> >>> (a big ugly rant)
> >>>
> >>> So, Steve, did you see the movie or do you just
> >>> continue to let other people think for you?
> >>>
> >>
> >
 
No, Steve. More like some of the Scandanvian countries or
even Germany or.....France.

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BD05A1CB.3070F%[email protected]...
> That all sounds real nifty...... Unfortunatly we are not
> Socialists yet!
>
> When that happens people (like you!) who have got ahead in
> life will be living in a 1 bedroom commune tract and drive
> a Yugo to their government
job
> to get their government paycheck
>
>
> On 6/28/04 10:00 AM, in article
> [email protected], "B.
> Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > To quote (as best I can remember it) what Sen. Daniel
> > Patrich Moynahan
said
> > at a Liberal Party dinner around 1984:
> >
> > If supporting the right to a decent minimum wage,
> > medical care on demand
for
> > all citizens, honesty in public service, affordable
> > quality public
education
> > through college for all, equal civil rights for all
> > citizens, a foreign policy based on cooperation with
> > international organizations such as the United Nations
> > and the belief that we must all share equitably the
wealth of
> > the world, then yes, I'm a liberal and damn proud of it.
> >
> >
> > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:BD059AD0.306E7%[email protected]...
> >> I did NOT start it....... Liberals become appalled when
> >> you actually respond and fight back!
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/28/04 8:05 AM, in article
> >> [email protected], "K. J.
> >> Papai" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Steve <[email protected]> wrote...
> >>>> Michael Moore Fact # 1: George W. Bush knew a guy,
> >>>> who knew a guy,
who
> > stood
> >>>> next to a guy on an elevator, who happened to be the
> >>>> husband of a
girl
> > whose
> >>>> cousin was dating this really, really fat man, who
> >>>> worked with a guy
> > who was
> >>>> related to (hold your breath for this one) Osama BIN
> >>>> LADEN!!!!!!!!!!!
> > At
> >>>> this point in .... <non Tour news omitted>
> >>>
> >>> I am no Michael Moore political fan but why are such
> >>> an overwhelming asshole Steve and post politics to
> >>> RBR?
> >>>
> >>> -Ken
> >>
> >
 
Gary <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> This does not belong in the racing forum. Please take
> political threads someplace else. I hate to see this forum
> go the way of others and become a place for political
> discussions. Good grief! The tour starts in a matter of
> days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here, here!
 
On 28 Jun 2004 12:28:30 -0700, Leila wrote:
>> Good grief! The tour starts in a matter of
>> days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> here, here!

You're in Liège?
 
Shells with sarin gas and also mustard gas have been
found as well.

Halliburton had the contracts under Clinton. They were
renewed under him and then again under Bush.

Your health care numbers are very misleading.

Moore is a proven liar in every propaganda film he has made.

In the recent pic, he makes a big deal about Taliban
officials visiting a Bush business interest to discuss a
pipeline in Afghanistan. Moore does not let people know that
the deal never got past that stage AND that the Clinton
Administration signed off and supported the project.

Moore had several lies in "Bowling for Columbine" and also
"Roger and Me".

"patch70" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Perhaps now you can give us George W. Bush's 'FACTS': Iraq
> has stacks of WMD's and almost has nuclear weapons. Iraq
> and al Qaeda are really close to each other even though
> they are completely idealogically opposed. Iraq is giving
> WMD's to al Qaeda. **** Cheney and Halliburton's contracts
> are not related. A complete lack of health care for 40
> million people is acceptable. I can read.
>
> Wake up and smell the roses. You may choose not to believe
> Michael Moore but choosing to believe GWB et al is far
> more damaging.
>
>
>
> --
 
"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Shells with sarin gas and also mustard gas have been found
> as well.
>
> Halliburton had the contracts under Clinton. They were
> renewed under him and then again under Bush.
>
> Your health care numbers are very misleading.
>
> Moore is a proven liar in every propaganda film he
> has made.
>
> In the recent pic, he makes a big deal about Taliban
> officials visiting a Bush business interest to discuss a
> pipeline in Afghanistan. Moore does
not
> let people know that the deal never got past that stage
> AND that the
Clinton
> Administration signed off and supported the project.
>
> Moore had several lies in "Bowling for Columbine" and also
> "Roger and Me".

Several? I don't know why anyone takes him seriously after
the "Bowling" propaganda film.

>
> "patch70" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
> > Perhaps now you can give us George W. Bush's 'FACTS':
> > Iraq has stacks of WMD's and almost has nuclear weapons.
> > Iraq and al Qaeda are really close to each other even
> > though they are completely idealogically opposed. Iraq
> > is giving WMD's to al Qaeda. **** Cheney and
> > Halliburton's contracts are not related. A complete lack
> > of health care for 40 million people is acceptable. I
> > can read.
> >
> > Wake up and smell the roses. You may choose not to
> > believe Michael Moore but choosing to believe GWB et al
> > is far more damaging.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>
 
[email protected] (Tom Arsenault) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> patch70 <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > Perhaps now you can give us George W. Bush's 'FACTS':
> > Iraq has stacks of WMD's and almost has nuclear weapons.
> > Iraq and al Qaeda are really close to each other even
> > though they are completely idealogically opposed. Iraq
> > is giving WMD's to al Qaeda. **** Cheney and
> > Halliburton's contracts are not related. A complete lack
> > of health care for 40 million people is acceptable. I
> > can read.
> >
> > Wake up and smell the roses. You may choose not to
> > believe Michael Moore but choosing to believe GWB et al
> > is far more damaging.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>
> How does this all pertain to bike racing? Just curious...

Michael Moore will take Armstrongs place after he retires
and will win ten straight tours... You should see him in the
mountains!!!


>
> Tom
 

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