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Johnny NoCom

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Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm

Time for all you intelligent riders to order one just in time for the
holiday season.

There is nothing better than flying down the road on a splitter bike and
passing everything in sight including those old school slowracer
antiques and upwrong ass hatchets with slither's of leather up their ass
..

Holiday Cheers,
Johnny [email protected]
 
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Colnago

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Thanks so much for sharing, Johnny.

"Johnny NoCom" <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com> wrote in message
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> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe
>
> http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
>
> Time for all you intelligent riders to order one just in time for the
> holiday season.
>
> There is nothing better than flying down the road on a splitter bike and
> passing everything in sight including those old school slowracer
> antiques and upwrong ass hatchets with slither's of leather up their ass
> .
>
> Holiday Cheers,
> Johnny [email protected]
>
>
 
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Tom

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Colnago wrote:
> Thanks so much for sharing, Johnny.
>
> "Johnny NoCom" <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> > Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe
> >
> > http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
> >
> > Time for all you intelligent riders to order one just in time for

the
> > holiday season.
> >
> > There is nothing better than flying down the road on a splitter

bike and
> > passing everything in sight including those old school slowracer
> > antiques and upwrong ass hatchets with slither's of leather up

their ass
> > .
> >
> > Holiday Cheers,
> > Johnny [email protected]
> >
> >


Umm, recumbents suck. End of story. And you can't race them anyway.
Tom
 
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dgk

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On 14 Dec 2004 09:57:32 -0800, "Tom" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Colnago wrote:
>> Thanks so much for sharing, Johnny.
>>
>> "Johnny NoCom" <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> > Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe
>> >
>> > http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
>> >
>> > Time for all you intelligent riders to order one just in time for

>the
>> > holiday season.
>> >
>> > There is nothing better than flying down the road on a splitter

>bike and
>> > passing everything in sight including those old school slowracer
>> > antiques and upwrong ass hatchets with slither's of leather up

>their ass
>> > .
>> >
>> > Holiday Cheers,
>> > Johnny [email protected]
>> >
>> >

>
>Umm, recumbents suck. End of story. And you can't race them anyway.
>Tom


And I don't know about that "bladder in female" process. I think the
bike is going to have to stop to pee pretty often.
 
Bill Sornson writes:

>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe


http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm

> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.


You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.

An artist's (mis)conception no less.

Jobst Brandt
[email protected]
 
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Benjamin Lewis

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jobst brandt wrote:

> Bill Sornson writes:
>
>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe

>
> http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
>
>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.

>
> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
> the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
> the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.
>
> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This image
gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom/recessed_steerer_tube.jpg


It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap between
chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with the smaller
diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only be an issue for low
speed turns. It appears that it was designed for high speeds, rather than
versatility.

--
Benjamin Lewis

Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing.
-- James Thurber
 
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Just zis Guy, you know?

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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:13:00 GMT, [email protected]
wrote in message <[email protected]>:

> http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
>An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I think you'll find it is a real bike, Jobst, pictured in the metal.
Or rather in the carbon. It's used almost exclusively for track
racing, though.

I've seen a bike with even more restricted steering, although to be
fair the rider did Crash Horribly and inflict major road rash on his
**** - but that was mainly because he clipped someone else's wheel at
speed. The rider in question being one Mr Burrows.
 
Benjamin Lewis writes:

>>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe


http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm

>>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.


>> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close
>> to the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close
>> as the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.


>> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


> I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This
> image gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:


http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom/recessed_steerer_tube.jpg

> It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap
> between chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with
> the smaller diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only
> be an issue for low speed turns. It appears that it was designed
> for high speeds, rather than versatility.


The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
records through a timed gate. This is neither a competition bicycle
for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV. It certainly is not a
tourer but might interest someone who needs a conversation piece,
where it might do for a short time... that is, until the other kids on
the block have all seen it.

Jobst Brandt
[email protected]
 
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Just zis Guy, you know?

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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:00:08 GMT, [email protected]
wrote in message <[email protected]>:

>The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
>off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
>is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
>records through a timed gate.


Up to a point, Lord Copper. I have seen (even raced in) HPV events
where there are several bikes with this kind of chain layout. Even
road-usable sporting recumbents tend to have the chain dropped off the
front idler for racing. Not all HPV racing is faired, there are
classes for unfaired, faired, "sports" (which have a minimum height
restriction).

>This is neither a competition bicycle
>for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV.


Not fast? With a moderately fit "engine" It would leave me behind
without too much difficulty, and probably you as well :)

I expect to see bikes like this on tracks at BHPC meets. I think Mr
Larrington will be along any moment now...

I have some pictures from the Reading BHPC meet, and there is one
which seems relevant. Unfortunately it was taken with a very cheap
digital camera, so it's a poor picture, but here it is anyway:

http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/web/public.nsf/Documents/Mike_Burrows

The bike at the top is the Ratracer B, which has a fore-and-aft front
fork, giving seriously limited steering travel. Look at the RatRacer
below, you'll see that the chain overlaps the front wheel there, too.
 
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Joao de Souza

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Johnny NoCom wrote:
>

[clip-O-rama]

Just wanted to point to the people in all the other groups where this
got cross posted to, that Johnny NoCom is one of the resident trolls at
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent - just ignore him as you would any other troll.

We now return to the previously scheduled flamefest, already in progress.
 
[email protected] wrote:
> The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
> off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles.

This
> is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set

world
> records through a timed gate. This is neither a competition bicycle
> for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV. It certainly is not a
> tourer but might interest someone who needs a conversation piece,
> where it might do for a short time... that is, until the other kids

on
> the block have all seen it.
>
> Jobst Brandt
> [email protected]org


Sorry, Jobst, but you're behind the times. Human-powered vehicle racing
organizations now recognize several classes of vehicles, divided by
amount of aerodynamic fairing. The NoCom does not have any purely
aerodynamic devices attached to it, so it fits into the HPRA "Stock"
class:
http://www.recumbents.com/hpra/default.htm
It also fits into the WRRA "Unfaired" class:
http://www.recumbents.com/wrra/rules.htm
I believe that the IHPVA may start using these classifications in order
to allow a greater variety of vehicles to compete. Fully-faired
vehicles are neat- but competitive fully-faired vehicles require a huge
commitment in time and/or money.

I've ridden lowracers similar to the NoCom. (Not as low, though.) While
not suitable for high-traffic areas, they're quite capable on the open
road.

Jeff
 
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Johnny NoCom

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Jobst,

What do you know about the chain on the worlds fastest stock bike. You
do not own or ride one. You have one of those slow ass hatchet
hemorrhoid, stick up the ass conventional bicycle things.

No artist conception. Its the real deal and faster than any UCI ****

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm

The only thing "conventional" is your brain Jobst. You're in serious
need of an overhaul. Spend some time off your "love post" and get with
the program. Parke Davis and Co. must love you. Preparation H is on
sale at overstock.com.

Holiday Cheers,
Johnny NoCom

[email protected] wrote:

> Bill Sornson writes:
>
> >> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe

>
> http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
>
> > Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.

>
> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
> the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
> the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.
>
> An artist's (mis)conception no less.
>
> Jobst Brandt
> [email protected]
 
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David Reuteler

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In rec.bicycles.misc Johnny NoCom <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com> wrote:
> Preparation H is on sale at overstock.com.


not that i can find. can you provide a link?
--
david reuteler
[email protected]
 
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Tom Sherman

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Jobst Brandt wrote:

> Bill Sornson writes:
>
>
>>>Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe

>
>
> http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
>
>
>>Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.

>
>
> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
> the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
> the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.
>
> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


Jobst,

I have ridden several lowracers that run the chain by the front wheel
(in fact, my regular bicycle can be set up this way). The most difficult
part is starting out, as large steering corrections will cause
chain/wheel interference. Tight U-turns are also not possible. However,
once speeds in excess of about 10-mph/15-kph are achieved, chain/wheel
interference is no longer an issue, and such a lowracer can turn as
sharply as a compact car, so riding on the streets is no problem.

I happen to know several people who have carbon fiber composite
lowracers with the chainline running adjacent to the front wheel, and
they ride these bikes thousands of miles per year on public roads.

--
Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.
 
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Mark Leuck

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"Johnny NoCom" <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com> wrote in message
news:41BF7[email protected]
> Jobst,
>
> What do you know about the chain on the worlds fastest stock bike. You
> do not own or ride one. You have one of those slow ass hatchet
> hemorrhoid, stick up the ass conventional bicycle things.
>
> No artist conception. Its the real deal and faster than any UCI ****
>
> http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
>
> The only thing "conventional" is your brain Jobst. You're in serious
> need of an overhaul. Spend some time off your "love post" and get with
> the program. Parke Davis and Co. must love you. Preparation H is on
> sale at overstock.com.
>
> Holiday Cheers,
> Johnny NoCom



I bet you wish you had one too
 
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Tom Sherman

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Mark Leuck wrote:

> "Johnny NoCom" <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>>Jobst,
>>
>>What do you know about the chain on the worlds fastest stock bike. You
>>do not own or ride one. You have one of those slow ass hatchet
>>hemorrhoid, stick up the ass conventional bicycle things.
>>
>>No artist conception. Its the real deal and faster than any UCI ****
>>
>>http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
>>
>>The only thing "conventional" is your brain Jobst. You're in serious
>>need of an overhaul. Spend some time off your "love post" and get with
>>the program. Parke Davis and Co. must love you. Preparation H is on
>>sale at overstock.com.
>>
>>Holiday Cheers,
>>Johnny NoCom

>
>
>
> I bet you wish you had one too[.]


Mr. Leuck,

I suggest fewer indefinite pronouns and more end punctuation.

--
Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.
 
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Tom Sherman

Guest
Joao de Souza wrote:

>
> Johnny NoCom wrote:
> >

> [clip-O-rama]
>
> Just wanted to point to the people in all the other groups where this
> got cross posted to, that Johnny NoCom is one of the resident trolls at
> alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent - just ignore him as you would any other troll.
>
> We now return to the previously scheduled flamefest, already in progress.


And Monkey Island joins Atlantis beneath the waves...

--
Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.
 
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Tom Sherman

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swamprun wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:48:19 -0800, jwills wrote:
>
>>Sorry, Jobst, but you're behind the times. Human-powered vehicle racing
>>organizations now recognize several classes of vehicles, divided by
>>amount of aerodynamic fairing. The NoCom does not have any purely
>>aerodynamic devices attached to it, so it fits into the HPRA "Stock"
>>class:
>>http://www.recumbents.com/hpra/default.htm

>
>
> No, the no-com can not be HPRA stock class. The front splitter plate is
> in effect a small front fairing which modifies the airflow around the
> rider. A rear splitter that is part of the frame or aerodynamic features
> below the rider are OK. The small front splitter/fairing puts the no-com
> in the super-stock class (front fairings allowed).


From the WISIL website: [1]

> HPRA Racing Classes
>
> STOCK - Vehicles in this class may have any number of wheels.
> Vehicle/frame design may not incorporate any form of fairing which is
> not an integral part of the frame. Specifically, brazed on, welded

on, > or epoxied on integral parts of the frame which do not divert
airflow > around the rider are allowed. Wheel discs/covers are allowed.
Supplied > number plates do not constitute a fairing. Rider is male or
female of > any age.

How this is interpreted could be a matter of contention. Would a
monocoque streamliner be considered "Stock Class", since the fairing
shell is also the frame?

[1] <http://www.recumbents.com/hpra/rulesand.htm>.

--
Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.
 
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B. Lafferty

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"Johnny NoCom" <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> The only thing "conventional" is your brain Jobst. You're in serious
> need of an overhaul. Spend some time off your "love post" and get with
> the program. Parke Davis and Co. must love you. Preparation H is on
> sale at overstock.com.
>
> Holiday Cheers,
> Johnny NoCom
>

Interesting. In close to 30 years of cycling, I've never had a roid problem
from cycling and don't know of anyone who has. The only cyclist I've known
to get roids from their machines have been recumbent riders.
 

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