The hazards of NCN 11



Mike Causer wrote:
> "Hand over all your carrots or you don't go through!"
> http://www.mikecauser.com/images/blocked.jpg
>
>
> "Mmmmm, lightly oiled, just how I like my derailleurs."
> http://www.mikecauser.com/images/chewing.jpg
>

where is this? According to the route its supposed to be somewhere in East
Anglia

There were cattle wandering in Old Norwich Road last week (I expect a fence
was brought down by the wind and these bovines took full advantage of this).

I was going to call the emergency services as I was a bit worried the cows
would get onto the main road) but I spoke to some old people I saw looking
at them - they said they had already contacted the farmer and he was coming
back to herd them in to their correct field.

I got the impression from speaking to them that this sort of thing happens
fairly often...

Alex
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:10:00 +0000, Mr R@t \(2.30zi\) wrote:

> Mike Causer wrote:
>> "Hand over all your carrots or you don't go through!"
>> http://www.mikecauser.com/images/blocked.jpg


> where is this? According to the route its supposed to be somewhere in East
> Anglia


TL 56716964 or 52.30275N 0.29735E The gate that keeps the National
Trust's "semi-wild" ponies in Wicken Fen.
(http://www.wicken.org.uk/wildlife_konig.htm)



> There were cattle wandering in Old Norwich Road last week (I expect a fence
> was brought down by the wind and these bovines took full advantage of this).


I'm convinced these ponies are going to get out of that gate when
someone leaves it unlatched, they have already worked out how to get past
the cattle grid at the other end of the path.....



Mike
 
Mike Causer wrote:

>On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:10:00 +0000, Mr R@t \(2.30zi\) wrote:
>
>> Mike Causer wrote:
>>> "Hand over all your carrots or you don't go through!"
>>> http://www.mikecauser.com/images/blocked.jpg


>I'm convinced these ponies are going to get out of that gate when
>someone leaves it unlatched, they have already worked out how to get past
>the cattle grid at the other end of the path.....


That latch did strike me as strange and rather less than I would
expect. One of these days they may work out how to unfasten it.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
 
In article <[email protected]>, Phil Cook
[email protected] says...
> Mike Causer wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:10:00 +0000, Mr R@t \(2.30zi\) wrote:
> >
> >> Mike Causer wrote:
> >>> "Hand over all your carrots or you don't go through!"
> >>> http://www.mikecauser.com/images/blocked.jpg

>
> >I'm convinced these ponies are going to get out of that gate when
> >someone leaves it unlatched, they have already worked out how to get past
> >the cattle grid at the other end of the path.....

>
> That latch did strike me as strange and rather less than I would
> expect. One of these days they may work out how to unfasten it.
>

I don't think it would matter - isn't it a kissing gate?
 
Rob Morley wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Phil Cook
>[email protected] says...
>> Mike Causer wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:10:00 +0000, Mr R@t \(2.30zi\) wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mike Causer wrote:
>> >>> "Hand over all your carrots or you don't go through!"
>> >>> http://www.mikecauser.com/images/blocked.jpg

>>
>> >I'm convinced these ponies are going to get out of that gate when
>> >someone leaves it unlatched, they have already worked out how to get past
>> >the cattle grid at the other end of the path.....

>>
>> That latch did strike me as strange and rather less than I would
>> expect. One of these days they may work out how to unfasten it.
>>

>I don't think it would matter - isn't it a kissing gate?


Given that it's on a cycle route you should be able to get your steed
through, so I see no problems getting a four-hooved one through too.
Since the ponies are between the gate and the blocking fence it looks
like they will be able to get through. The one on the right should be
able to get through the gap if there aren't any rails between the two
fences.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
 
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:10:00 +0000, Mr R@t \(2.30zi\) wrote:

> where is this? According to the route its supposed to be somewhere in East
> Anglia


52.30275n 0.29735e or TL 56736965 It's the gate that is supposed to
keep those ponies inside National Trust Wicken Fen. They have already
worked out how to get past the cattle grid at the other end of the path,
and it will only take a careless passer-by to leave the latch loose and
a bit of luck on their part with one tugging at the gate (see how chewed
it is?) and another will slip out.


Mike
 
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:32:22 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:

>>I don't think it would matter - isn't it a kissing gate?


Yes. There's a better view of the layout here:
http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map/location/8855/



> Given that it's on a cycle route you should be able to get your steed
> through, so I see no problems getting a four-hooved one through too.
> Since the ponies are between the gate and the blocking fence it looks
> like they will be able to get through. The one on the right should be
> able to get through the gap if there aren't any rails between the two
> fences.


The gate opens towards the one on the right, and if the one in the
centre with its head down tugs at it the one of the left could get
through.


Mike
 
Mike Causer wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:32:22 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>
>>>I don't think it would matter - isn't it a kissing gate?


Original pic http://www.mikecauser.com/images/blocked.jpg

>Yes. There's a better view of the layout here:
>http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map/location/8855/
>
>> Given that it's on a cycle route you should be able to get your steed
>> through, so I see no problems getting a four-hooved one through too.
>> Since the ponies are between the gate and the blocking fence it looks
>> like they will be able to get through. The one on the right should be
>> able to get through the gap if there aren't any rails between the two
>> fences.

>
>The gate opens towards the one on the right, and if the one in the
>centre with its head down tugs at it the one of the left could get
>through.


That's what I meant. The one on the LEFT. I am useless at giving
directions.

I think the one in the centre has its rear pointing at the gate....

Give them enough time and I reckon they will eat their way out :)
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
 
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Phil Cook <> wrote:

> Given that it's on a cycle route you should be able to get your steed
> through,


Ha ha ha.

That's a novel concept. I wonder if anyone's suggested it to
Sustrans and teh council.

regards, Ian SMith
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In article <[email protected]>, Mike Causer wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:10:00 +0000, Mr R@t \(2.30zi\) wrote:
>
>> where is this? According to the route its supposed to be somewhere in East
>> Anglia

>
>52.30275n 0.29735e or TL 56736965 It's the gate that is supposed to
>keep those ponies inside National Trust Wicken Fen.


http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map/location/8984/ shows the same gate in
Bottisham (and location/8985/ shows the Wicken Fen cafe in Burwell)....
I've mentioned it in the "Feedback" form, but you might know a more
direct method of fixing them.
 
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:02:35 +0000, Alan Braggins wrote:

> http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map/location/8984/ shows the same gate in
> Bottisham (and location/8985/ shows the Wicken Fen cafe in Burwell)....
> I've mentioned it in the "Feedback" form, but you might know a more
> direct method of fixing them.


Both were taken by the developer of the mapping/photo software, and added
early in development. There is an effort at the moment to bring all the
older photos into line with the latest storage, so I expect Simon will
notice when he checks all his photos. I can correct my own photos but
not anyone else's.


Mike
 
Mike Causer wrote:

>On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:10:00 +0000, Mr R@t \(2.30zi\) wrote:
>
>> where is this? According to the route its supposed to be somewhere in East
>> Anglia

>
>52.30275n 0.29735e or TL 56736965 It's the gate that is supposed to
>keep those ponies inside National Trust Wicken Fen.


Those ponies were there when Ray Mears visited as seen on telly in his
wild food prog tonight but they managed to film them looking a bit
wilder than they were when clustered round the gate. He also pointed
out that they were part of the menu of our hunter-gatherer ancestors.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
 

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