The Klan was at Cross Worlds?

Discussion in 'Road Cycling' started by Sharon Peters, Feb 2, 2003.

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  1. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

    http://velonews.com/view_full.php?image=/images/cyc/3435.3582.f.jpg

    I KNOW THAT THE RIGHT WINGERS IN FLANDERS HAND OUT THOSE "VLAMS LEUW" FLAGS, MAYBE THE KLAN THOUGHT
    IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

    ITS ONE THING TO BE A GOOFY REGIONALIST LIKE THE CROSS CRUSADE GUYS, ITS ANOTHER TO BE A RACIST.

    THANKS SHARON

    ps: Don't give me that tired old 'heritage' or 'states rights' bullshit. There are at least 3
    distinct flags of the Confederacy, most of which would be more appropriate and historicaly
    accurate than the battle flag. The only reason to fly the battle flag is to advocate hatred.
     
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  2. Ken McKisson

    Ken McKisson Guest

    or ignorance.

    "Sharon Peters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
    >
    > http://velonews.com/view_full.php?image=/images/cyc/3435.3582.f.jpg
    >
    > I KNOW THAT THE RIGHT WINGERS IN FLANDERS HAND OUT THOSE "VLAMS LEUW"
    FLAGS,
    > MAYBE THE KLAN THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
    >
    > ITS ONE THING TO BE A GOOFY REGIONALIST LIKE THE CROSS CRUSADE GUYS, ITS ANOTHER TO BE A RACIST.
    >
    > THANKS SHARON
    >
    > ps: Don't give me that tired old 'heritage' or 'states rights' bullshit.
    There
    > are at least 3 distinct flags of the Confederacy, most of which would be
    more
    > appropriate and historicaly accurate than the battle flag. The only
    reason to
    > fly the battle flag is to advocate hatred.
     
  3. Tom Kunich

    Tom Kunich Guest

    You really are nothing but a complete idiot.

    "Sharon Peters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
    >
    > http://velonews.com/view_full.php?image=/images/cyc/3435.3582.f.jpg
    >
    > I KNOW THAT THE RIGHT WINGERS IN FLANDERS HAND OUT THOSE "VLAMS
    LEUW" FLAGS,
    > MAYBE THE KLAN THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
    >
    > ITS ONE THING TO BE A GOOFY REGIONALIST LIKE THE CROSS CRUSADE GUYS,
    ITS
    > ANOTHER TO BE A RACIST.
    >
    > THANKS SHARON
    >
    > ps: Don't give me that tired old 'heritage' or 'states rights'
    bullshit. There
    > are at least 3 distinct flags of the Confederacy, most of which
    would be more
    > appropriate and historicaly accurate than the battle flag. The only
    reason to
    > fly the battle flag is to advocate hatred.
     
  4. Mike S.

    Mike S. Guest

    Damn yankees always butting in where they're not wanted...

    "Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:5tf%[email protected]...
    > You really are nothing but a complete idiot.
    >
    > "Sharon Peters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
    > >
    > > http://velonews.com/view_full.php?image=/images/cyc/3435.3582.f.jpg
    > >
    > > I KNOW THAT THE RIGHT WINGERS IN FLANDERS HAND OUT THOSE "VLAMS
    > LEUW" FLAGS,
    > > MAYBE THE KLAN THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
    > >
    > > ITS ONE THING TO BE A GOOFY REGIONALIST LIKE THE CROSS CRUSADE GUYS,
    > ITS
    > > ANOTHER TO BE A RACIST.
    > >
    > > THANKS SHARON
    > >
    > > ps: Don't give me that tired old 'heritage' or 'states rights'
    > bullshit. There
    > > are at least 3 distinct flags of the Confederacy, most of which
    > would be more
    > > appropriate and historicaly accurate than the battle flag. The only
    > reason to
    > > fly the battle flag is to advocate hatred.
     
  5. nferyn

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    hi,

    Just to set things straight. The Flemish flags you see ont the picture are the offical flags of the Flemish community. It's very unlikely that they were handed out by far right extremists, as they despise the official flemish flag. It's just a mild form of Flemish patriotism.

    We did quite well at the worlds, didn't we ;-)

    Niek (Flemish, European, Belgian, anti-racist)
     
  6. Bart

    Bart Guest

    nferyn wrote:

    > Just to set things straight. The Flemish flags you see ont the picture are the offical flags of
    > the Flemish community. It's very unlikely that they were handed out by far right extremists, as
    > they despise the official flemish flag. It's just a mild form of Flemish patriotism.

    Niek

    the Vlaamse Volksbeweging started the flag thing some years ago. But with the Flemish gov
    sponsoring more and more races (and requiring silly name changes) there are more flags easily
    available now it seems.

    Bart
     
  7. nferyn

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    >nferyn wrote:
    >
    >> Just to set things straight. The Flemish flags you see ont the >picture are the offical flags of
    >> the Flemish community. It's very unlikely that they were >handed out by far right extremists, as
    >> they despise the official flemish flag. It's just a mild form of >Flemish patriotism.
    >
    >Niek
    >
    >the Vlaamse Volksbeweging started the flag thing some years >ago. But with the Flemish gov
    >sponsoring more and more races (and requiring silly name >changes) there are more flags easily
    >available now it seems.
    >
    >Bart

    Didn't know about that, they would definitely use the 'old' Flemish flag, and not the one in the picture. Anyway, if someone identifies himself more to Flanders than to Belgium, that does not mean he is a racist bigot or anything. I personally feel more Flemish than Belgian and my political points of view are very different from those of the far right (I certainly wouldn't be married to a black African woman otherwise ;-))

    My point was that many people outside of Flanders too often think that everything that is Flemish is right wing, exstremist, neo nazi or something similar, although the overwhelming majority of people over here are fairly moderate (and would probably be considered left wing to American standards)

    Niek
     
  8. "Mike S." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<YMn%[email protected]>...
    > Damn yankees always butting in where they're not wanted...
    >
    >
    > "Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:5tf%[email protected]...
    > > You really are nothing but a complete idiot.
    > >
    > > "Sharon Peters" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
    > > >
    > > > http://velonews.com/view_full.php?image=/images/cyc/3435.3582.f.jpg
    > > >
    > > > I KNOW THAT THE RIGHT WINGERS IN FLANDERS HAND OUT THOSE "VLAMS
    > LEUW" FLAGS,
    > > > MAYBE THE KLAN THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
    > > >
    > > > ITS ONE THING TO BE A GOOFY REGIONALIST LIKE THE CROSS CRUSADE GUYS,
    > ITS
    > > > ANOTHER TO BE A RACIST.
    > > >
    > > > THANKS SHARON
    > > >
    > > > ps: Don't give me that tired old 'heritage' or 'states rights'
    > bullshit. There
    > > > are at least 3 distinct flags of the Confederacy, most of which
    > would be more
    > > > appropriate and historicaly accurate than the battle flag. The only
    > reason to
    > > > fly the battle flag is to advocate hatred.
    > >
    > >

    Get over it folks. The South lost, and that Confederate battle flag represents nothing more than
    hate and succession from the USA. I mean come on, in Richmond there have been ardent protests lately
    because someone wants to put in a monument to Abe Lincoln, and the Sons of the Confederacy don't
    want it. I highly doubt any of those guys were in the war of oppression that was waged by Lincoln
    (as they called it in Richmond). GET OVER IT! YOU LOST!

    Tom "Damn Yankee and proud to be on the winning side"
     
  9. Bart

    Bart Guest

    To connect some things

    In Flanders one can see hairy unwashed motorbiker white trash with a Confederate one knitted on the
    back of their undersized jeans vest. even "the south will rise again" seems a distinguished plus on
    those outfits. There used to be more of them when I was a kid it seems.

    Did those people watch too much television , distorting their notion of rebelliousness, or what
    should I think of that?

    Cheers, Bart
     
  10. Dick Durbin

    Dick Durbin Guest

    [email protected] (Sharon Peters) wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...

    > ps: Don't give me that tired old 'heritage' or 'states rights' bullshit. There are at least 3
    > distinct flags of the Confederacy, most of which would be more appropriate and historicaly
    > accurate than the battle flag. The only reason to fly the battle flag is to advocate hatred.

    So, are we to assume that it's OK for you to make gross generalizations about Southerners and the
    reason they fly the Confederate Battle Flag? Do you know the person that was flying that flag and
    his reasons? Do you know if he belongs to the KKK or are you just assuming?

    Your generalizations are no less hateful than the racism we all condemn.

    Dick Durbin
     
  11. "Dick Durbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > [email protected] (Sharon Peters) wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > > ps: Don't give me that tired old 'heritage' or 'states rights' bullshit.
    There
    > > are at least 3 distinct flags of the Confederacy, most of which would be
    more
    > > appropriate and historicaly accurate than the battle flag. The only reason
    to
    > > fly the battle flag is to advocate hatred.
    >
    > So, are we to assume that it's OK for you to make gross generalizations about Southerners and the
    > reason they fly the Confederate Battle Flag? Do you know the person that was flying that flag and
    > his reasons? Do you know if he belongs to the KKK or are you just assuming?
    >
    > Your generalizations are no less hateful than the racism we all condemn.

    The one other excuse for flying that flag is ignorance.
     
  12. Robert Chung

    Robert Chung Guest

    "Dick Durbin" <[email protected]> wrote
    > So, are we to assume that it's OK for you to make gross generalizations about Southerners and the
    > reason they fly the Confederate Battle Flag? Do you know the person that was flying that flag and
    > his reasons? Do you know if he belongs to the KKK or are you just assuming?

    So what you're saying is, the guy might not be a racist. He might just be a good ole boy who acts in
    a fashion that makes it look like he's a racist. Okay, I can buy that.
     
  13. Tom Kunich

    Tom Kunich Guest

    Bart <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > To connect some things
    >
    > In Flanders one can see hairy unwashed motorbiker white trash with a Confederate one knitted on
    > the back of their undersized jeans vest. even "the south will rise again" seems a distinguished
    > plus on those outfits. There used to be more of them when I was a kid it seems.
    >
    > Did those people watch too much television , distorting their notion of rebelliousness, or what
    > should I think of that?

    I don't know what Europeans would want to fly the Confederate battle flag but I can tell you that it
    means nothing here but an area of the United States despite the hate mongering of the Liberal left
    or in this case Sharing Peters.

    I spent four years in the service and in that time I discovered that a white southerner would far
    sooner give a hand-up and a good review to a black southerner than a white northerner. After I got
    out of the service I discovered the same attitude in the business world. In fact it was far more
    pronounced in the business world because of strongly biased legislation passed by the Liberal left.

    The view that the Confederate battle flag stands for racism and hatred is a lie perpertated by the
    Liberals on the world at large and is not related to reality in the least.

    The KKK uses the Confederate battle flag? Whoop-de-doo, the communists, during the cold war, funded
    the Peace movement in the USA and the "Peace" flag when they meant anything but peace. You don't
    take extremist's views of the world as an indication of the the world at large believes.
     
  14. > The view that the Confederate battle flag stands for racism and hatred is a lie perpetrated by the
    > Liberals on the world at large and is not related to reality in the least.
    >

    So, since they object to the use of the Confederate battle flag, the NAACP are a bunch of lying
    liberals who know nothing about racism or hatred?

    Steve
     
  15. Deeznuts

    Deeznuts Guest

    [email protected] (Tom Assenut) wrote in message
    > that Confederate battle flag represents nothing more than hate and succession from the USA.

    succession?

    D
     
  16. Tom Kunich

    Tom Kunich Guest

    "Steven Y. Litvin" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > > The view that the Confederate battle flag stands for racism and
    hatred
    > > is a lie perpetrated by the Liberals on the world at large and is
    not
    > > related to reality in the least.
    >
    > So, since they object to the use of the Confederate battle flag, the
    NAACP
    > are a bunch of lying liberals who know nothing about racism or
    hatred?

    It is to the NAACP's quite notable advantage to perpetuate the idea that blacks are discriminated
    against in an illegal an ongong manner. Nothing could be further from the truth and it has gravely
    discouraged blacks in this country.
     
  17. Dick Durbin

    Dick Durbin Guest

    "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Dick Durbin" <[email protected]> wrote
    > > So, are we to assume that it's OK for you to make gross generalizations about Southerners and
    > > the reason they fly the Confederate Battle Flag? Do you know the person that was flying that
    > > flag and his reasons? Do you know if he belongs to the KKK or are you just assuming?
    >
    > So what you're saying is, the guy might not be a racist. He might just be a good ole boy who acts
    > in a fashion that makes it look like he's a racist. Okay, I can buy that.

    If that's what the flag means to you, that is your problem, not his.
     
  18. [email protected] (Tom Kunich) wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    > Bart <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > To connect some things
    > >
    > > In Flanders one can see hairy unwashed motorbiker white trash with a Confederate one knitted on
    > > the back of their undersized jeans vest. even "the south will rise again" seems a distinguished
    > > plus on those outfits. There used to be more of them when I was a kid it seems.
    > >
    > > Did those people watch too much television , distorting their notion of rebelliousness, or what
    > > should I think of that?
    >
    > I don't know what Europeans would want to fly the Confederate battle flag but I can tell you that
    > it means nothing here but an area of the United States despite the hate mongering of the Liberal
    > left or in this case Sharing Peters.
    >
    > I spent four years in the service and in that time I discovered that a white southerner would far
    > sooner give a hand-up and a good review to a black southerner than a white northerner. After I
    > got out of the service I discovered the same attitude in the business world. In fact it was far
    > more pronounced in the business world because of strongly biased legislation passed by the
    > Liberal left.
    >
    > The view that the Confederate battle flag stands for racism and hatred is a lie perpertated by the
    > Liberals on the world at large and is not related to reality in the least.
    >
    > The KKK uses the Confederate battle flag? Whoop-de-doo, the communists, during the cold war,
    > funded the Peace movement in the USA and the "Peace" flag when they meant anything but peace. You
    > don't take extremist's views of the world as an indication of the the world at large believes.

    Wow! Someone is on his high horse tonight!

    Yeah, so I'm a liberal who lives in the South now. I'm a damn yankee. I hang out with people who all
    grew up in the South, and they ALL despise the confederate battle flag for what it is. A sign of
    hatred and slavery and oppression. I don't see the same things you saw while you were in the service
    of our country. I see Southerners now who still hate black people. I see black people who still hate
    white people. I see it almost everyday where I live, and I live in one of the most liberal towns in
    NC. Just look at Trent Lott. Do you think that was a faux pas on his part? Nope, he's racist as
    hell. I would shit in my helmet and eat it if I was wrong. But I (and lots of other people around
    this country) don't think that I am.

    All of your conspiracy views are just that. Conspiracies. Nonsense. Rumblings from someone who
    doesn't know any better. Get a grip. The communists didn't start the peace movement, it was the
    socialists. Get it straight. And even if the communists did start a peace movement in America. Is
    that so bad not wanting to be in war?

    The KKK uses the battle flag as one of their symbols. The neo-nazis use a Swastika. So in your
    estimation, it's OK to fly a Swatiska as well? Did you vote for Wallace? I wouldn't be surprised.

    Tom
     
  19. Tom

    > It is to the NAACP's quite notable advantage to perpetuate the idea that blacks are discriminated
    > against in an illegal an ongoing manner. Nothing could be further from the truth and it has
    > gravely discouraged blacks in this country.

    but you said earlier

    >I spent four years in the service and in that time I discovered that a white southerner would far
    >sooner give a hand-up and a good review to a black southerner than a white northerner

    implying you believe people in the north are more likely to take race into account when reviewing
    someone's performance.

    So which one is it Tom? Racisms does not exist is a figment of black's (and other minorities)
    imagination or northerners are more racist then southerners?

    Steve
     
  20. Tom Kunich

    Tom Kunich Guest

    Tom, you're so funny that you ought to be on TV. You are so filled with hatred of other people that
    you just can't see that it doesn't extend past your own mind. You do know that is a treatable mental
    aberation?
     
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