The Kloden case...Bruynel preparing something ?...

[Tom Kunich]

"Keith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:44:15 -0800, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>>
>>You do seem to be missing the point don't you? If there were no drugs then
>>Ullrich's NATURAL superior riding physique would have won him the tours.
>>There's absolutely no way that Pantani could have gotten anywhere near
>>Ullrich without drugs.
>
> Right, in a world without drugs, I think Ullrich would have thrashed
> the competition in ITTs so badly they would have never recovered,
> including LA.

I presume what you're implying is that Lance WAS using drugs which were
better than Ullrich's even though he was beneficiary of the East German
sports machine who did most of the drug research.

I suggest you get your head out of your nether regions and think about that.

 

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On Jan 10, 10:44 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
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> > Almost everyone on Ullrich's 1996 and 1997 team (2nd and 1st in the
> > tour) have confessed to using EPO, so there is no direct evidence
> > against ullrich i wouldn't put money on him having been clean.
>
> > most of the guys he beat in 1997 were also implicated in subsequent
> > years (virenque, dufaux, pantani).
>
> You do seem to be missing the point don't you? If there were no drugs then
> Ullrich's NATURAL superior riding physique would have won him the tours.
> There's absolutely no way that Pantani could have gotten anywhere near
> Ullrich without drugs.

and maybe without drugs he'd be another danny pate. and maybe without
drugs clapton would've been better than hendrix.

douchebag, you don't know ****.

 

[Tom Kunich]

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> and maybe without drugs he'd be another danny pate. and maybe without
> drugs clapton would've been better than hendrix.

Ullrich was faster than Pantani everywhere but on the steepest of climbs
until somehow, magically, Pantani was able to TT with the best.

And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
musician.

 

[Carl Sundquist]

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> and maybe without drugs he'd be another danny pate. and maybe without
>> drugs clapton would've been better than hendrix.
>
> Ullrich was faster than Pantani everywhere but on the steepest of climbs
> until somehow, magically, Pantani was able to TT with the best.
>
> And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
> musician.
>

Paging Mr Kveck...

 

[Bret]

On Jan 10, 8:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
> musician.

Clapton on Hendrix:
"What I found refreshing about [Hendrix] was his intensely self-
critical attitude toward his music. He had this enormous gift and a
fantastic technique, like that of someone who spent all day playing
and practicing, yet he didn't seem that aware of it... [W]hen he did
pick up the guitar, it was very throwaway to him, as if he didn't take
himself too seriously."

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>, "Carl Sundquist" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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> > And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
> > musician.
>
> Paging Mr Kveck...

Heh, Bret beat me to the best quote on this subject. Hendrix and Clapton were
going for two entirely different things. But I'd say that, had he been interested in
doing it, Hendrix could have done a note perfect version of Clapton's style. Easily,
too. The same can't be said going the other way. Music is a very subjective thing,
hence Kunich's opinion on this is fine for him - many other people would disagree
(including Clapton).

--
tanx,
Howard

Now it's raining pitchforks and women,
But I've already got a pitchfork...

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Bret" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Jan 10, 8:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
>> musician.
>
> Clapton on Hendrix:
> "What I found refreshing about [Hendrix] was his intensely self-
> critical attitude toward his music. He had this enormous gift and a
> fantastic technique, like that of someone who spent all day playing
> and practicing, yet he didn't seem that aware of it... [W]hen he did
> pick up the guitar, it was very throwaway to him, as if he didn't take
> himself too seriously."

I see you're demonstrating yet again that English is your second language.

 

[Bret]

On Jan 11, 12:39 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Bret" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:c2c97747-a4c2-4193-b692-e8f095ea9d46@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jan 10, 8:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >> And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
> >> musician.
>
> > Clapton on Hendrix:
> > "What I found refreshing about [Hendrix] was his intensely self-
> > critical attitude toward his music. He had this enormous gift and a
> > fantastic technique, like that of someone who spent all day playing
> > and practicing, yet he didn't seem that aware of it... [W]hen he did
> > pick up the guitar, it was very throwaway to him, as if he didn't take
> > himself too seriously."
>
> I see you're demonstrating yet again that English is your second language.

C'est très gentil de votre part. Je suis très fier d'être polyglotte

 

[Michael Press]

In article
<[email protected]
egroups.com>,
Bret <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jan 10, 8:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
> > musician.
>
> Clapton on Hendrix:
> "What I found refreshing about [Hendrix] was his intensely self-
> critical attitude toward his music. He had this enormous gift and a
> fantastic technique, like that of someone who spent all day playing
> and practicing, yet he didn't seem that aware of it... [W]hen he did
> pick up the guitar, it was very throwaway to him, as if he didn't take
> himself too seriously."

Clapton was suckered there. Hendrix was intensely aware
of the impressions he created. The `Aw Shucks' demeanor
was all show. I will listen to Hendrix's blues but am
not interested in his rock and roll.

--
Michael Press

 

[Bret]

On Jan 11, 2:01 pm, Michael Press <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]
> egroups.com>,
>
>  Bret <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 10, 8:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
> > > musician.
>
> > Clapton on Hendrix:
> > "What I found refreshing about [Hendrix] was his intensely self-
> > critical attitude toward his music. He had this enormous gift and a
> > fantastic technique, like that of someone who spent all day playing
> > and practicing, yet he didn't seem that aware of it... [W]hen he did
> > pick up the guitar, it was very throwaway to him, as if he didn't take
> > himself too seriously."
>
> Clapton was suckered there. Hendrix was intensely aware
> of the impressions he created. The `Aw Shucks' demeanor
> was all show. I will listen to Hendrix's blues but am
> not interested in his rock and roll.

I don't disagree wrt his popular rock but there's a lot more to him
than that.

Bret

 

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On Jan 10, 10:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > and maybe without drugs he'd be another danny pate. and maybe without
> > drugs clapton would've been better than hendrix.
>
> Ullrich was faster than Pantani everywhere but on the steepest of climbs
> until somehow, magically, Pantani was able to TT with the best.
>
> And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
> musician.

dumbass,

but, clapton was no "penis de milo"

http://theaxevictim.blogspot.com/2007/09/treat-your-missus-to-something-special.html

 

[Michael Press]

In article
<[email protected]
egroups.com>,
Bret <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jan 11, 2:01 pm, Michael Press <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article
> > <[email protected]
> > egroups.com>,
> >
> >  Bret <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Jan 10, 8:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > > > And by the way, Hendrix sucked big time whereas Clapton is actually a
> > > > musician.
> >
> > > Clapton on Hendrix:
> > > "What I found refreshing about [Hendrix] was his intensely self-
> > > critical attitude toward his music. He had this enormous gift and a
> > > fantastic technique, like that of someone who spent all day playing
> > > and practicing, yet he didn't seem that aware of it... [W]hen he did
> > > pick up the guitar, it was very throwaway to him, as if he didn't take
> > > himself too seriously."
> >
> > Clapton was suckered there. Hendrix was intensely aware
> > of the impressions he created. The `Aw Shucks' demeanor
> > was all show. I will listen to Hendrix's blues but am
> > not interested in his rock and roll.
>
> I don't disagree wrt his popular rock but there's a lot more to him
> than that.

Yes, his blues playing. He learned from the best.
Red House, Electric Church Red House.

He wanted to be a rock and roll star, and succeeded.

--
Michael Press

 

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Jan 10, 6:21 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Jan 10, 10:44 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:e6bc180c-f9ab-4958-94c2-b9d9893273b5@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Almost everyone on Ullrich's 1996 and 1997 team (2nd and 1st in the
> > > tour) have confessed to using EPO, so there is no direct evidence
> > > against ullrich i wouldn't put money on him having been clean.
>
> > > most of the guys he beat in 1997 were also implicated in subsequent
> > > years (virenque, dufaux, pantani).
>
> > You do seem to be missing the point don't you? If there were no drugs then
> > Ullrich's NATURAL superior riding physique would have won him the tours.
> > There's absolutely no way that Pantani could have gotten anywhere near
> > Ullrich without drugs.
>
> and maybe without drugs he'd be another danny pate. and maybe without
> drugs clapton would've been better than hendrix.

Clapton's tiny purple fishes and a girl's brown body seemed to have
confused Hendrix and put him in a purple haze. Somehow these must be
Papai theme songs.


Here is your brain on drugs, and the cherry picking of lyrix appears
to show Hendrix is no match of Klapton on the lyrical side:
=================================
Tales Of Brave Ulysses -- Eric Clapton and Martin Sharp

You thought the leaden winter would bring you down forever,
But you rode upon a steamer to the violence of the sun.

And the colors of the sea blind your eyes with trembling mermaids,
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses:
How his naked ears were tortured by the sirens sweetly singing,
For the sparkling waves are calling you to kiss their white laced
lips.

And you see a girl's brown body dancing through the turquoise,
And her footprints make you follow where the sky loves the sea.
And when your fingers find her, she drowns you in her body,
Carving deep blue ripples in the tissues of your mind.

The tiny purple fishes run laughing through your fingers,
And you want to take her with you to the hard land of the winter.

Her name is Aphrodite and she rides a crimson shell,
And you know you cannot leave her for you touched the distant sands
With tales of brave Ulysses; how his naked ears were tortured
By the sirens sweetly singing.

The tiny purple fishes run lauging through your fingers,
And you want to take her with you to the hard land of the winter.

=================================
Purple Haze -- Jimi Hendrix

Purple Haze all in my brain,
lately things don't seem the same,
actin' funny but I don't know why
'scuse me while I kiss the sky.

Purple Haze all around,
don't know if I'm coming up or down.
Am I happy or in misery?
Whatever it is, that girl put a spell on me.

Purple Haze all in my eyes,
don't know if it's day or night,
you've got me blowing, blowing my mind
is it tomorrow or just the end of time?