The Meaning of Christmas!

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  1. snyper0311

    snyper0311 New Member

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    Good Afternoon Everyone,

    It's been a while since I've participated in a Thread on this Forum. I was reading a lot of what was going on, but felt it better to keep my opinions to myself.

    Well, I've noticed a lot on religion and beliefs of God and such, so it got me wondering, what is your belief of the upcoming holiday of Christmas?

    For me (I am a Christian), I believe that Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ. I'm not big into the whole gift thing, for me it's more about remembering what Christ did for us and how he wants us to live our lives. I was in the military for a while, so this time of year always brings me back to the time spent away from my family and what I've seen in the world as to how others are treated. We are truly lucky to have the freedom to express our views without any prosecution.

    I'm not trying to get a whole God vs. Non-God thing started here, I just would like to see how others perceive the holiday.

    One other thing, what would you like for Christmas???????

    Thanks and Merry Christmas,
    Mark
     
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  2. Crankyfeet

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    I would like a Pinarello Prince please Santa.
     
  3. alienator

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    The spirit of Christmas is realized when I find these two loving girls under my tree:

    [​IMG].

    I used to think that spirit of Xmas was what I felt whenever I found one of my victims walking alone along a dark highway at night, but I always found that the Xmas feeling went away once I buried them. Now I know that Christmas is really about the two girls above showing me, over the course of many hours, just how much they love me and each other.
     
  4. Crankyfeet

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    And then burying them.:)
     
  5. kdelong

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    They look like pole dancers to me! Does Mrs Alienator know about your Christmas wish?:rolleyes:

    My beliefs are Christian based and I do feel that Christmas is a time for celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, which I believe did occur, even if it did not actually occur on the date of December 25, 0001 BC. Like Mark, I too spent time in the military but I was lucky and only missed one Christmas with my family:p . I have been refusing to receive gifts for Christmas for six years now and I give very few because the greed of the merchants has just about ruined this aspect of the holiday:mad:. I prefer to ignore all of the "must have" gifts and the guilt trip that the jewelers try to lay on us by saying that "she deserves the very best" when they are trying to hawk a $1000.00 diamond pendant:mad:. I beleive that Christmas is all about being with family and freinds instead of giving and receiving gifts. Sorry Wal-Mart, Sears, Kohls, etc:eek: .
     
  6. Crankyfeet

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    Just remember the kids though and don't forget to give them some of the best memories of their lives.
     
  7. Bro Deal

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    Why stop with two when you could have three. Plus these three look like they are much more into the spirit of the season.

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  8. alienator

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    I'd really like to see that picture, but I see absolutely nothing.

    I hate it when people aren't competent to share porn.
     
  9. Bro Deal

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    I wonder why. I can still see it. Maybe DHTML looking at a cookie stored when I first accessed the pic?
     
  10. alienator

    alienator Well-Known Member

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    Say, they do look like a fun group of holiday revelers.

    I must say I do get all misty eyed when I hear one of those classic lines from one of the age old favorite Christmas movies:

    "F*ck me, Santa! F*ck me, Santa! F*ck me, Santa!"--Lauren Graham to Billy Bob Thornton as she sat on top of him, in his car, whilst he was wearing his Santa outfit
     
  11. Cycler6n

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    I'm a Christian too, and I think the meaning is the celebration of Christ's birth, and like what you said, remembering how He wants us to be.
     
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    You know, I really thought you boys were just being over-the-top for fun (as you define it)...but tonight I saw part of Larry the Cable Guy's Christmas Spectacular...

    It featured two pole dancers, in silver bikinis, with the camera low and pointing up so they could thrust their, um, selves at the audience...it was labeled The North Pole BTW :rolleyes: ....during a performance of Kid Rock singing I'm Your Rock & Roll Jesus....with lyrics I don't care to repeat... Don't know about the rest of it, as I changed the channel at that point.

    So there's even a Christmas special for you, alienator.

    Now I'm off to read The Rise & Fall of the Roman Empire....
     
  13. snyper0311

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    I was hoping to get some answers from others that either practice another religion or don't believe at all. What does it mean to them? Is it all about the gifts?

    As Crankyfeet mentioned, I try to make it special for those who don't have a means to get gifts for their kids. I think that All kids should have experienced the Splendor of Christmas. I like to get my son involved in things like "Toys for Tots" and other charitable organizations that try to make a wish come true for the less fortunate.

    Thanks for your answers so far.

    Mark
     
  14. limerickman

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    I'm RC : and for me the real meaning of Christmas is the birth of Christ.

    But it seems to me that the real meaning of Christmas has been forgotten/ignored in the commercialisation of the season.

    The amount of shopping days, when do the sales start, what am I getting for Christmas, who am I going to try to get off with at the X-Mas office party :
    seems to me to be the prevailing attitude toward X-Mas.

    Not wanting to be a killjoy, we all, naturally, like to have a good time but it we should remember what the real meaning of Christmas is and not get too caught up in commericalisation etc.
     
  15. limerickman

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    Good stuff : like you, I try to re-enforce the message to the family that not everyone is as fortunate as we are, and that we should try to donate extra money/time at Christmas.
     
  16. Bro Deal

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    Being one of those godless heathens, I think X-mas is largely a capitalist scam that is played up to encourage people to spend money. The only thing that X-mas celebrates in the U.S. is the god of retail selling.
     
  17. snyper0311

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    I kind of agree with your statement. I think a lot of people here in the US have forgotten about what Christmas is really about and seem to have embraced the "It's all about me" mentality. And I think that Corporate America has exploited that mentality for their profit.
     
  18. Xsmoker

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    His only gift was a song he played on his drum that echoed through the starry night...Pa-Rum-Pa-Pum-Pum-Rum-Pa-Pum-Pum.

    Have a merry and safe holiday...... :)
     
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    "Isn't there anyone who knows what the meaning of Christmas is about?", asked Charlie Brown.

    "I'll tell you the meaning of Christmas, Charlie Brown", replied Linus. "And there were shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flocks by night, and lo the angel of the lord came upon them and the glory of the lord shone round about hem, and they were sore afraid, and the angel said unto them, fear not, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David, a savior who is Christ the Lord. And suddenly there was with the angels a multitude of the heavenly hosts, praising God and saying, Glory to God in highest heaven and peace on earth god will to men.

    That's the meaning of Christmas, Charlie Brown."
     
  20. jhuskey

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    The true meaning is about the spirit of giving whether it be monetary or of yourself.
    Giving of yourself is more difficult and takes time and time is in short quantity. If you consider the Christ story it is all about giving.

    btw: Alienator we must have receivers also and you are just more of a receiver than a giver but I am sure given the chance you would be willing to give it your all.
     
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