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[email protected] (Edward Dolan) wrote...
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[email protected] (Edward Dolan) wrote...
> > > > Semi Fwankentender <
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http://www.bushin30seconds.org/
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> > > > Oh, those liberal Dems - always good for a laugh! I am going to save that bit of malarkey
> > > > for one of those moments when I have absolutely nothing better to do. But isn't this by the
> > > > same people (moveon.org) who likened Bush to ****** - and we all know what to do with those
> > > > kind of allusions. I believe there is even a newsgroup law that covers that particular
> > > > situation.
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> > > I see that you are swallowing Ed Gillespie's misrepresentations whole, without even chewing.
> > > The truth of the matter is that MoveOn.org sponsored an ad contest challenging people to come
> > > up with 30-second
> > > known as the "Bush Administration".
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> > have the common horse sense to know how to defend this country.
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> I think you are describing the current administration; the one that has blown off and alienated
> our allies; the one that launched a pre-emptive military attack on a country that posed no threat
> to the U.S.; the one that has driven deficit spending to record highs; the one being yanked this
> way and that by fruitcakes who write stupid, scary **** like this:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400061946/102-5245116-
> 4639334?v=glance
I could care less about what France, Germany and Russia (our erstwhile allies?) have to say about
anything connected to the War on Terror (of which Iraq is central). And I believe in preemptive wars
if they will prevent even greater tragedies than 9/11. Deficit spending will always take place in
time of war. What else is new? I will not read your reference because you have already destroyed any
credibility you might ever have had with me by your defense of moveon.org. You are a partisan as am
I. As Zippy would say, you have chosen your side and it is not the American side.
> > However, we don't need to worry about that eventuality because the American people have enough
> > horse sense to deny that moron any chance of ever getting into the White House.
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> Only if the American people are more horse's asses instead of Houyhnhnm.
The only states a horse's ass like Dean will carry for sure are California, Washington and some of
those Northeastern states and Mid-Atlantic states (New York for sure). However, sad to report,
Minnesota may also go for Dean because of its traditional liberal heritage from the days of HHH. But
the last election it was very close and it just barely went for Gore as did Iowa.
> > > More than a 1000 entries were submitted. After an on-line poll, the field was narrowed to 15
> > > finalists. Two entries made over-the-top comparisions between ****** and Bush - needless to
> > > say, they didn't make the finals.
> > >
> > > Like I said these commercials were submitted by private individuals; they were not produced by
> > > MoveOn.org. And yet Ed Gillespie and the RNC are dishonestly characterizing them as "MoveOn's
> > > ads" or "the MoveOn ads".
>
> > Nonsense! We know where the hearts of the liberal extremists lay. They are into just one thing
> > and that is hatred of Bush.
>
> OK, we can do this two ways:
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> 1. I can cite a few conservative quotations like these -
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> "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
Sounds like an excellent idea to me! Especially in as much as that is what they would like
to do to us!
> "When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not
> getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically
> intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will
> turn out to be outright traitors."
Another really excellent idea! I would not even try Walker, but just take him out and shoot him.
That is what you do to your enemies. I have not quite yet decided if liberal extremists are in the
same category as Walker, but I am tending toward that belief.
> And say with equal conviction that these quotations define the heart and soul of the conservative
> wing in this country; or,
No, you really can't do what you say you can because none of those types ever get to the point where
they are seriously considered for national office. But look at the present field of Dems (the nine
dwarfs). They are all out in left field (except for Lieberman) saying the most stupid things. That
is the difference between the left wing of the Dems and the right wing of the Repubs. The right wing
of the Repubs never get to call any shots and never field any candidates for national offices that
have a chance of getting the nomination. They are like the libertarians that way.
> 2. Acknowledge that the idiots who produced the ******/Bush spots are completely tone-deaf in a
> political sense, and don't speak for all liberals any more than Ann Coulter speaks for all
> conservatives.
(Ann Coulter is my kind of person and I agree with most everything she has to say about the
treasonous liberals.)
The idiots who produced those ******-Bush spots are motivated by exactly the same hatred that all
the left wing liberal extremists have for Bush. It is irrational. It was the same kind of animus
that motivated the intellectual lefties against Reagan. That was also irrational. I think you should
be getting my drift by now that all liberal extremists are nuts and screwballs. If you are a
supporter of Dean, then you a liberal left wing extremist wacko nut (all one word).
> What works for you?
>
> > It is irrational and marks them for the nuts and screwballs that they are. They are foaming at
> > the mouth and are rabid.
>
> Projection: "A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and
> traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person
> lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."
>
> > Moveon.org is nothing but a liberal screed for Dean.
>
> Word-clear "screed" and get back to us.
Main Entry: screed Pronunciation: 'skrEd Function: noun Etymology: Middle English screde fragment,
alteration of Old English scrEade -- more at SHRED Date: circa 1789 1 a : a lengthy discourse b : an
informal piece of writing
2 : a strip (as of plaster of the thickness planned for the coat) laid on as a guide
3 : a leveling device drawn over freshly poured concrete
Merriam-Webster
Definition number 1, in case you are still confused. But I believe other dictionaries would give it
more of a derogatory connotation, which of course is what I intended.
> I like MoveOn; they are doing a fantastic job of mobilizing opposition to Bush's crazy and out-of-
> control agendas and policies.
>
> > > > What we see happening is the liberal Dems self destructing right in front of our eyes.
> > > > According to Bill O'Reilly, Dean will be able to carry at most only eight (8) states in the
> > > > general election - not enough to become President.
>
> > > And you believe anything Bill O'Reilly says, huh?
> >
> > Mr. O'Reilly is more often right than wrong, which is more than you can say for any of those
> > g.d. liberal commentators who infest the major media like a pox.
>
> Bill O'Reilly promised to apologize to the public and never trust the Bush Administration again if
> no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. Has he followed through on that promise?
> Answer: no, because he is dishonest buffoon (and a bully).
More nonsense! O'Reilly is not nearly so much a partisan for Bush as some believe. He has taken Bush
on on a number of major policy issues, both foreign and domestic. You are thinking of old Rushdie.
But even he disagrees with Bush on a few issues.
Everyone in the world knew that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, including everyone in the
Clinton administration. I think what may have happened is that the underlings under Saddam may have
been lying to him after the First Gulf War because they knew they had to tell him what he wanted to
hear or else they were dead meat.
> > > ObRecumbentBike reference: it took some lobbying to force the Republican-controlled Congress
> > > to restore funding for the Transportation Enhancements program, didn't it?
>
> > That's right! Focus on trivia while the country is engaged in a major war on terror. That is why
> > you are going to be defeated big time in the next general election. You have no sense of what is
> > important and what is trivial. In fact, you have no sense at all!
>
> Ed, see what's in the newsgroup line? We are way off topic here, pal.
This thread was "ruined" long ago and to try to "save" it is impossible after a certain amount of
off-topic messages have been posted to it. But what you and I are doing here is displaying our
newsgroup personalities anyway, so why is it off-topic?
Ed Dolan - Minnesota