The Pope. What's He Done?.

Discussion in 'Your Bloody Soap Box' started by FredC, Apr 2, 2005.

  1. Miss Meow

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    Give me $10 at 1,000-1 that a woman will get the job :rolleyes:
     


  2. MountainPro

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    Father Dougal McGuire has more chance than any woman of becoming pope.
     
  3. FredC

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    All the great and the good will be at his funeral including Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe. Just shows how we've wrong about him for years.
     
  4. davidmc

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    It appears you & I would agree on this topic but that Lim would take the other side. Catholicism seems so "stodgy" & heirarchical/patriarchal (like Islam) to me.
     
  5. davidmc

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    In case you are wondering he did what no man on the face of the earth had the power to do. He went to communist Poland and said mass. Which was strictly prohibited in the communist soviet block. Openly oppsoing communism inside the borders of that country is a very difficult prospect. Just ask the Chinese students from Tienimen Square(do not know if that is spelled correctly). He was the head of the largest christian religion on earth and during that time reached out to politicians and other religions. He made it very clear that genecide was not acceptable. The shame of the matter is that he spoke out on the genecide in Rowanda, Somalia, Congo, and everywhere else that people were being murdered because of race or religion but had no direct power with which to help them. Catholic or not. The irony of the situation was that he could use his enourmous platform to stir the world and inform it about attrocities, but because he was technically head of the smallest nation on earth he could not do anything about them.
     
  7. MountainPro

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    Mugabe is a staunch Catholic. He is forbidden to travel freely in the EU, the Vatican is not technically in the EU. I saw him give Bush the evil eye...

    JP2 would have wanted him there, he was a forgiving man, perhaps that was his weakness.
     
  8. limerickman

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    JP2 brought about the death of Communism in Europe.

    From the 1950's, as Bishop of Krackow, he was instrumental in forging an alliance between the RCC and the miners and shipyard workers of Poland.
    He actively supported industrial unrest in Poland in the 1960's - for human rights freedoms against the Polish Communist goverment.
    It was in the 1960's that he first made contact with Lech Walesa and he maintained contact with the embryo-Solidarity movement throughout the 1970's.

    On his election as Pope in 1978, knowing that people power behind the Berlin Wall was intensifying, Pope John Paul reversed the RCC's policy of Ospolitik
    with Moscow, and overtly told the people living under Communism in Europe to rally for their human rights.

    John Paul II ordered the transfer of $32 million to Solidarity in 1978 to support
    civil, peaceful, protest against human rights abuse by the Polish and other
    Communist goverments in Eastern Europe.
    This funding was dispersed throughout Communist Europe to support peaceful,
    civil unrest and protest.

    We have John Paul II to congratulate, solely, for the fall of Communism.
     
  9. FredC

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    I'm going to invent a new word here and it shall be 'POPELEMICS' it might get rid of Bollox, but I doubt it.
     
  10. davidmc

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    The officer said not a word about Pope John Paul II, or, as he is now suddenly better known—somehow I missed the news release on this change—Pope John Paul the Great.
    This week, it's been a given in most of the tributes to the pope that he was fully or at least largely responsible for the fall of communism and the collapse of the Soviet empire. And surely, this pope's firm and insistently communicated stand for freedom inspired his fellow Poles to rise up against the regime that controlled their country.

    But elsewhere in the old Eastern Bloc, the pope's impact was at least a couple of steps removed from the courageous decisions that ordinary people made to head out onto the streets and march in protests that they fully expected would be met with absolute resistance from the Soviet forces and their local puppets.
    http://slate.msn.com/id/2116428/
     
  11. zapper

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    White smoke, white smoke...who is it?
     
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    You're right! Last call for bets, last call...
     
  13. jhuskey

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    Benedict, Jan's uncle.
     
  14. zapper

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    Too late it's the "Panzer" Cardinal...
     
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    *Yawn*. The protege. So much for the intercontinental shake-up.
     
  16. DiabloScott

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    OK, but what name will he pick?
    Giovanni-Paolo III?
    Sixtus VI?
    or, as Pope John-Paul's successor... Pope George-Ringo?
     
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    :) good one
     
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