The surge



In article <[email protected]>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Feb 9, 5:20 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> > I'm saying that I'm happy to be in the group of people TK calls scum.
> >>
> >> Where was that again?

> >
> > Follows on from this comment:
> >
> > I don't think we need continue any conversation with you as well. You,
> > Asher and Munro are little people that have a knack for making bananas
> > look particularly intelligent.
> >
> > Goes from there with your abuse of everyone who dares disagree with
> > you. At one point or another you've called everybody here nasty,
> > childish **** , and attempted to heap abuse on them when they didn't
> > agree with you.
> > Bill C

>
> So you actually made up that wording. Sort of like your arguments for
> anthropomorphic global warming.


Trying to evade the point by complaining that he used a word that you didn't,
aren't you? While it's true that you didn't use the word "scum" it's plenty obvious
from the tone of the comments you make about others in here who disagree with you
that you must think they're scum (or whatever word you choose that has equivalent
meaning). It's also patently obvious that you must think that your opnions are much
more valid than anyone else in here, based on the way you mock people for being
plumbers, carpenters, machinists or what-have-you. Which is hypocritical coming from
someone who (A) likes to accuse "Liberals" of being "elitists," and (B) has bragged
about being a high school drop out. I wouldn't mock you for being a drop out, but
certainly believe the average person would think that fact might give them pause for
thought before trying to imply that others are "beneath me." And your words in here
leave no doubt that you do think that many, if not most, *are* beneath you. "Little
people," indeed.

By the way, you complained that Tom Paterson couldn't stick to the subject, but
what the hell are you doing when you throw in some demand to know if I've ridden a
bike in the last ten years, which culminates in a statement about how many miles
you've ridden this year. It's the same thing as when you post a list of all the
bikes in your garage or claim that you have more guns than anyone here or are in the
top whatever percentage of wage earners in the Bay Area or any number of other
similar things. I'm not positive what the point of that stuff is, except to assume
that you believe it lends credence to whatever authority you're trying to present
yourself as. Uh huh... Maybe that stuff worked back in elementary school; here it's
just bizarre.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
On Feb 11, 5:41 pm, Howard Kveck <[email protected]> wrote:

> more valid than anyone else in here, based on the way you mock people for being
> plumbers, carpenters, machinists or what-have-you.




Dumbass -


The Retard mocks people for being machinists?

That's kinda funny to me - some of the most intelligent discourse I've
seen on usenet is on the cnc newsgroup. Besides having to being
technically literate, a lotta those guys have to think about
globalization and all that it entails on a daily basis. Naturally,
there are a few idiotic ideologues of all stripes in there, just like
there are here, but . . .


thanks,

K. Gringioni.
 
"Howard Kveck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>
>> So you actually made up that wording. Sort of like your arguments for
>> anthropomorphic global warming.

>
> Trying to evade the point by complaining that he used a word that you
> didn't,
> aren't you? While it's true that you didn't use the word "scum" it's
> plenty obvious
> from the tone of the comments you make about others in here who disagree
> with you
> that you must think they're scum (or whatever word you choose that has
> equivalent
> meaning).


No Howard, I don't think that Bill is scum. He is a little man following his
leaders. On the other hand, you are scum.
 
On Feb 11, 12:21 pm, William Asher <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I will defer to your expertise on Norse/Inuit cuisine. I've always thought
> edamame were invented so that upper middle class couples could feed them to
> their children instead of Cheetos.


That could be, although they do have a use as a salty
appetizer in Japanese restaurants to induce you to drink
more Sapporo (why my friend called them Japanese beer nuts).

Beer nuts, of course, are the seeds from which beer trees
grow.

> I looked a bit for other discussions of Chinese influence on the west coast
> and couldn't find anything. The Chinese treasure junks are known to have
> made it to India, probably to Africa. I dunno, it seems sort of logical
> they would have gone east as well as west at least once, just to see what
> was there. <shrug>


Quite possibly they tried going east, but it's an awful
long way. I don't know how far they went in open-ocean sailing;
they could and probably did get all the way to Mozambique
without ever spending months out of sight of coast.
As somebody said, Thor Heyerdahl showed you _can_ cross
a lot of ocean in a vessel much more primitive than a junk,
but he didn't show that people _did_.

> I believe I have said several times in this debate that the best evidence
> now suggests that the MWP was a regional, not global, warming.
> Furthermore, current climate models can simulate similar regional warmings
> in the N. Atlantic, although for the reasons I have already gone into, they
> can't "predict" a particular regional warming coincident with the MWP.
> Climate models don't work that way.


Yes, I read that, that was why I referred to it as a
Europe/North Atlantic phenomenon. Kunich seems to think
it (a) would have allowed Marco Polo to tootle through
open water on his way to Baffin, and (b) was a temperature
excursion that makes the 20thC look like pattycake.
Neither of these makes sense.

Ben
 
On Feb 9, 4:11 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

>
> So you actually made up that wording. Sort of like your arguments for
> anthropomorphic global warming.- Hide quoted text -




Dumbass -

God, you're stupid.

The correct term is "anthropogenic" (caused by humans).
"anthropomorphic" means resembling humans (example: we tried to
program the robot's movements to be anthropomorphic).

thanks,

K. Gringioni.
 
"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Feb 9, 4:11 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> So you actually made up that wording. Sort of like your arguments for
>> anthropomorphic global warming.- Hide quoted text -

>
> God, you're stupid.
>
> The correct term is "anthropogenic" (caused by humans).
> "anthropomorphic" means resembling humans (example: we tried to
> program the robot's movements to be anthropomorphic).


So you're actually anthropomorphic.
 
[email protected] wrote:

> On Feb 11, 12:21 pm, William Asher <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I will defer to your expertise on Norse/Inuit cuisine. I've always
>> thought edamame were invented so that upper middle class couples
>> could feed them to their children instead of Cheetos.

>
> That could be, although they do have a use as a salty
> appetizer in Japanese restaurants to induce you to drink
> more Sapporo (why my friend called them Japanese beer nuts).
>
> Beer nuts, of course, are the seeds from which beer trees
> grow.
>
> Quite possibly they tried going east, but it's an awful
> long way. I don't know how far they went in open-ocean sailing;
> they could and probably did get all the way to Mozambique
> without ever spending months out of sight of coast.
> As somebody said, Thor Heyerdahl showed you _can_ cross
> a lot of ocean in a vessel much more primitive than a junk,
> but he didn't show that people _did_.
>


I always thought beer nuts was a condition men got from drinking too much
beer.

My thought was they didn't go straight across, but went NE around the
Pacific Rim. The Marco Polo legend has him sailing down the Pacific Coast
from the north.

--
Bill Asher
 
William Asher wrote:
> I always thought beer nuts was a condition men got from drinking too much
> beer.


LIVEDRUNKARDS beware.
 
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:58:29 -0800, Howard Kveck
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Don't 'wanton ways' go along with general dissolution and lack of moral character?


Only if done right and with perseverance.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
 
On 11 Feb 2007 21:11:52 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Beer nuts, of course, are the seeds from which beer trees
>grow.


This is the kind of logic that caused me so much disappointment when I
finally found an alewive.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
 
Curtis L. Russell wrote:

> On 11 Feb 2007 21:11:52 -0800, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Beer nuts, of course, are the seeds from which beer trees
>>grow.

>
> This is the kind of logic that caused me so much disappointment when I
> finally found an alewive.


I can only imagine what you must have felt on nailing your first cunner.

--
Bill Asher
 
Donald Munro wrote:

> William Asher wrote:
>> I always thought beer nuts was a condition men got from drinking too
>> much beer.

>
> LIVEDRUNKARDS beware.
>


You do not want to know about pork rinds.

--
Bill Asher
 
[email protected] wrote:
> On Feb 11, 12:21 pm, William Asher <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I will defer to your expertise on Norse/Inuit cuisine. I've always thought
>> edamame were invented so that upper middle class couples could feed them to
>> their children instead of Cheetos.

>
> That could be, although they do have a use as a salty
> appetizer in Japanese restaurants to induce you to drink
> more Sapporo (why my friend called them Japanese beer nuts).
>
> Beer nuts, of course, are the seeds from which beer trees
> grow.


The Norse in Greenland died because they were stupid. How else would
you wind up in Greenland? Ask someone in the Air Force how you wind
up in Greenland. It was the same for the Norse.

If they were smart they'd have opened up Google Earth and done a
'Fly To' to here: N44 08'11.40" E4 48'33.28" , gotten a table
next to the fountain, and ordered this:
http://www.cvccbike.com/food/andouillette-au-vin-blanc.jpg

While pondering the Theatre Antique:
http://www.cvccbike.com/food/theatre-antique.jpg

Then they wouldn't have starved. Dummies.

Bob Schwartz
 
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:16:52 GMT, Bob Schwartz
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The Norse in Greenland died because they were stupid. How else would
>you wind up in Greenland? Ask someone in the Air Force how you wind
>up in Greenland. It was the same for the Norse.


They picked the wrong service speciality when they enlisted?

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
 
On Feb 12, 12:16 pm, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> The Norse in Greenland died because they were stupid. How else would
> you wind up in Greenland? Ask someone in the Air Force how you wind
> up in Greenland. It was the same for the Norse.


The Norse dented the CO's car while parking it for him
outside the officers' club?

Actually, come to think of it, this is more or less
why Erik the Red had to take it on the lam from Iceland
and colonize Greenland (well, he killed some people
instead of denting the CO's car, but that was pretty
much the Norse equivalent).

> If they were smart they'd have opened up Google Earth and done a
> 'Fly To' to here: N44 08'11.40" E4 48'33.28" , gotten a table
> next to the fountain, and ordered this:
> http://www.cvccbike.com/food/andouillette-au-vin-blanc.jpg
>
> While pondering the Theatre Antique:
> http://www.cvccbike.com/food/theatre-antique.jpg
>
> Then they wouldn't have starved. Dummies.


The smart Norse were busy pillaging Pays d'Andouillette
while the dumb Norse were settling Greenland, so in that
sense you are right. The dumb Norse tried to settle
Newfoundland (Vinland), which had wine just like Pays
d'Andouillette, so they weren't _that_ dumb, but
unfortunately they were driven away by violent
encounters with Native American Newfies.

Those Newfies appear to have been better at scaring off
Vikings (not a peaceful bunch themselves) than were
the French, which perhaps explains the bad reputation
of the French army but not why Canadians are so
passive-aggressively polite these days.

Ben
RBR History Department
 
In article <O%[email protected]>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> "Howard Kveck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So you actually made up that wording. Sort of like your arguments for
> >> anthropomorphic global warming.

> >
> > Trying to evade the point by complaining that he used a word that you
> > didn't, aren't you? While it's true that you didn't use the word "scum" it's
> > plenty obvious from the tone of the comments you make about others in here who
> > disagree with youthat you must think they're scum (or whatever word you choose
> > that has equivalent meaning).

>
> No Howard, I don't think that Bill is scum. He is a little man following his
> leaders.


If there is anyone in here who exhibits a greater amount of "following his
leaders" than you, Tom, all of our heads would explode.

> On the other hand, you are scum.


(shrug...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
[stuff on digital filters snipped]

What do you do when the data aren't equi-spaced?
 
"Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> [stuff on digital filters snipped]
>
> What do you do when the data aren't equi-spaced?


Are you insinuating that yearly average global temperatures are not equally
spaced?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1363818.ece

"When politicians and journalists declare that the science of global warming
is settled, they show a regrettable ignorance about how science works. We
were treated to another dose of it recently when the experts of the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change issued the Summary for
Policymakers that puts the political spin on an unfinished scientific
dossier on climate change due for publication in a few months' time. They
declared that most of the rise in temperatures since the mid-20th century is
very likely due to man-made greenhouse gases."

"Twenty years ago, climate research became politicised in favour of one
particular hypothesis, which redefined the subject as the study of the
effect of greenhouse gases. As a result, the rebellious spirits essential
for innovative and trustworthy science are greeted with impediments to their
research careers. And while the media usually find mavericks at least
entertaining, in this case they often imagine that anyone who doubts the
hypothesis of man-made global warming must be in the pay of the oil
companies. As a result, some key discoveries in climate research go almost
unreported."

The problem is that people like Chung support the intentional biasing of
data to fit their political agenda.
 
Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> What do you do when the data aren't equi-spaced?

>
> Are you insinuating that yearly average global temperatures are not
> equally spaced?


Not at all. I was simply pointing out that the Hamming stuff that Greg
cut-and-pasted had a particular point of view about the regularity of data
(and that point of view is often an engineer's).

But as long as I have your attention, what was your "six point polynomial"
and why did you choose six as opposed to any other number?
 
"Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>> "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>> What do you do when the data aren't equi-spaced?

>>
>> Are you insinuating that yearly average global temperatures are not
>> equally spaced?

>
> Not at all. I was simply pointing out that the Hamming stuff that Greg
> cut-and-pasted had a particular point of view about the regularity of data
> (and that point of view is often an engineer's).
>
> But as long as I have your attention, what was your "six point polynomial"
> and why did you choose six as opposed to any other number?


Could it be because I didn't have to run a Matlab simulation - only use the
largest possible filter available in Excel?

Or would that be too complicated for you guys to figure out?